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I know this much...IF a cop (or anybody) was threatening my mother under any circumstance I would do something about it.

I guess when Rochard was 14 years old he would have just let the cop manhandle his mother and threaten her like that.
I wouldn't have. I would have done exactly what that kid did.

That cop should have had WAY better training in the ability to deal with people.

Instead of getting angry because she drove away in her mini van and acting like Barney Fife and screaming at her and trying to drag her out.

HE could have calmed that situation down. But he chose to act like a power hungry bully instead.
It's a miracle more cops aren't getting their fucking heads blown off with the way they interact with the public (you know, the people who pay their salaries).

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No one was threatening anyone. The police officer made a routine traffic stop for speeding. The driver fled. The driver was pulled over, and the officer attempted to restrain her.... Which I would imagine would be common practice after someone flees a police officer.... And the fourteen year old son attacks the police officer?

Again, on what grounds does anyone have the right to attack a police officer? The police officer was arresting or restraining someone who had committed a crime, and her son attacked the police officer.

Not only should they be hit, but they (the bad ones) should be filled with lead from time to time just to let all the other abusive ones know where they stand with the people they are supposed to be protecting and serving.

However, it would be better if we just let them be above the law. Lets just allow anyone with a badge and a gun do anything they want. What's the worst that could happen?


If a police officer can't handle a woman and a 14 year old kid without pulling his firearm, he needs to either find a new line of work or get better training.


:2 cents:

US police fire more bullets in a month than Germans use in a year

Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/46907...#ixzz2l6ndvX1U

They should arrest her at first place, not shot on kids...

That's like comparing apples with frog legs. We have states that are larger than Germany.

you're not good at math - are you?

Germany - 80 million people - 85 bullets in total
US - 300 million people - at least 1000 bullets

edit: please re-read - in two cases at least 84-90 bullets to stop one single person

Germany doesn't have a lot of this...

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and then what?

i think about it every day since no day goes by without several documentaries on various TV channels...

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While I am not great at math, I stand by my statement. You are comparing apples to frog legs.

The US has states larger than Germany. Germany is 137,847 sq miles, Alaska is 663,267 sq miles. The biggest state is nearly five times larger than Germany.

And again, you are comparing apples to frog legs. You cannot compare the gun culture in the US to the gun culture in Germany - to very different things. We are gun nuts. The US has 89 guns for 100 people, while Germany has 30.

You just can't really compare the two.

1 police man = 1 gun
1 criminal - 1 illegal gun

Germany - 85 bullets in total in 1 year
US - 84 bullets to stop 1 person

i have no idea what the size of the country has to do with that but if you think that's important: so be it

At the most someone should have had the shit tased out of them. Firing a gun, no way.

Question for Rochard:

If your mom pulled away at a traffic stop...and then the cop pulled her over again, and she complied and did not attempt to flee any further.
And then the cop started screaming at her and physically grabbed her and started dragging her screaming out of the vehicle while a van full of kids are screaming hysterically...

Would you just stand there and let that happen to YOUR mother?

Just answer that: yes or no. Would you let that man physically grab your mother?

I see what you did wrong there. Let me help you with your calculations.

Any stat comparison is fine unless of course these stats make US stats look bad.

If stats make US look bad, add in arbitrary irrelevant stat. No need for any explanation about the relevance.

Yep, that's how the govt. controls us here in the U.S.

No matter what they do to us, we are programmed from the first day in school that we are "Free" and the the U.S. is the "Greatest" at anything and everything.

So they run the national debt up to 17 trillion, steal billions with corruption and graft, have the police shooting and killing us, and incarcerate more of our citizens than any country in the history of the world...
But we are all so pre-programmed that we not only let them do it...we fucking AGREE with it!

It's a sad state of affairs for sure.

The cops will be put on paid vacation for two weeks and found to be acting within their guidelines, free to shoot and ass search the next victim.. The mother and son will now spend the next 2 or 3 years with legal battles.. That's justice..

This has happened to me.

Years ago I pulled over because I "fled" from a highway patrol at a high rate of speed. The truth is I wasn't fleeing; I was speeding and back then speeding for me was 130 mph. I never saw the fully marked police car behind me; The police thought I was fleeing. It was a full felony stop; I ate gravel. I was in fact yelled at, screamed at, and grabbed. I didn't resist, yet I was cut in the process and received a rather painful knee to the back.

The police thought I had a dead body in the trunk or at least drugs; They took this very seriously. I didn't resist in any way shape or form, they were heavy handed, and it wasn't pleasant at all.

This is what happens when you break the law.

Yes.

If my mother broke the law, the police went to arrest her, I would not interfere in any way at all.

What do you expect me to do? Attack the police officer? Because my mother was getting arrested for breaking the law?

Look at the tape - the mother fled, and when pulled over a second time the police officer tried to get her out of the car to put her in handcuffs because she was an obvious flight risk. There is no being nice about it at this point - It's either get out of the car now or face the consequences, and she chose to face the consequences - which starts with being forced out of her car.

You get what you deserve in life. Break the law, then refuse to obey a police officer, you get handled.

Robbie, are you seriously telling me that if you watched your mother break the law, you would then attack the police officer who was attempting to arrest her?

I wonder what the pig was thinking shooting into the mini van? Kill or maim the driver at the wheel of a moving car full of children?

Sounds like Robbie is nothing but black thug stuck in redneck's body.
What kind of dumbass question is this? Your mother just put you in danger by breaking a law, pissed on the fact she has children in her car, lead police chase on mother fucking Chrysler minivan and continued driving after she got shot at! Will you go fight for her? :1orglaugh
This raises the question of what kind of mother did you grow up with? Holly fuck! :1orglaugh

I don't get it either.

Police officer makes traffic stop, driver flees, police chase and attempt to arrest driver... And at that point it's okay to assault the police officer?

If your mother breaks the law and gets arrested, you cannot attack the police officer no matter what. The only possible ending you to attacking a police officer is a felony charge and going to jail.

I think he was not thinking. Kill the mother...Kill some kids.
Kill the mother who then loses control of her vehicle and smashes into another vehicle which kills the kids and the other vehicles passengers. Kill the mother, which smashes into a truck which then runs over the officer killing them as well.
Who knows....i dont think any of these things. I think he was just thinking PEW PEW PEW PEW
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I thought since the rear window did not shatter he was maybe shooting at the tires. The distance he was at, it would have been hard for him to miss the car.

Just my thought.

Doesn't really matter.... It's just the thought of him shooting at a car with kids in it that is mind blowing.

The whole video is available to watch now. I just saw most of it on TV.

The first cop who made the stop was very polite and gave the driver specific instructions on what her options were within 30 days of the stop -- but she was so fucking dense. The thing escalated into a bad situation after she pulled away when he went back to the car. By the time you get to the end of the video, where everyone in the car is on the ground with guns pointed at them, you can only think "damn, black people are really bad at getting pulled over."

That fat cop didn't need to discharge his weapon, but the whole thing could have gone so easily if she just would have complied with the officer who really had a frustrating situation to deal with when you have someone who has a such a thick skull.

Robbie never responded. If his mother intentionally violated the law and was being arrested, would Robbie assault a police officer for no reason?

That sums it up right there.

Yes I did.

When I first asked the question of you. I stated very succinctly that when I was a teenager I would have 100% defended my mother. That would be THE reason I would have "assaulted" a police officer.

And by "assaulted" ...the video shows the kid running to defend his mother and try to get that cop off of her. The only person "assaulting" anyone was that pig grabbing a woman with a van full of kids.

And you know what? That cop wouldn't have let anyone touch HIS mother either. He would have done the same thing.

You have stated you would NOT defend your mother against that asshole. So now we know who we both are as people.

You should revise your statement... the cop would have shot anyone who touched his mother, not just defended but shot. And of course, in that scenario, Rochard would be on here talking about how it was ok for him to do because he is the absolute epitome of a sheep.

Honestly...I don't know what the hell Rochard is thinking when he makes his statements.

I guess he's just trolling. Maybe it's fun for him.
Absolutely bad for business though.

Rochard is pro government control, pro police state, anti freedom... all because he thinks that America is somehow safer today than it was before 9/11...

He's a sheep that picked a "side" and believes everything his "side" tells him on tv... just like most Americans...

But if mom was a dumb bitch so dense she couldn't follow simple directions, then it becomes a little cloudy.

...only in America...

What do you mean "defend his mother". His mother was being arrested for violating the law - multiple times. It stuns me that you think it's proper to assault a police officer for arresting someone.

The end result was the same - the mother still got arrested, and as an extra added bonus the kid now is charged with assaulting a police officer.

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I was just talk to respect police officers and authority in general. It's served me rather well. Any time I've been in trouble, I respect authority and I stay out of trouble.

When I had that full felony stop, I obeyed the police officers. I ate a little gravel, but frankly I deserved that if only for being a dumb ass. When I went to court of this later on, it was more of the same - I was the only one wearing pants no less a suit and tie. (Then again, it was Phoenix, and it was brutally hot that day.)

I'm sorry. This is very simple. Violate the law, you get arrest, resist arrest and you are at the mercy of the police. If you interfere with an arrest, well, you get arrested too.

This is the way it's always been.

The cop that busted the window was pushing it and made the situation even worse.. If a cop is trying to bust out your windows, you can sure as hell bet I'd try to run as well. I'd likely run right to a public place to turn myself in, but no fucking way would I let a cop just beat on me, just because he's a dickhead.

The cop that opened fire, should have been fired soon as the video was seen.. Under no time was his life in danger and not only did he shoot at a car that had kids in it, but he shot with the other officer almost in his line of fire. The cop that was on the ground just about walked into his gun fire as he got up. That cop that fired is not only a public threat but a threat to his fellow officers. This guy will end up killing someone before it's done if he remains a cop.

The first cop, I can't say if he was justified in his actions of throwing the woman on the ground, because there isn't enough information as for why she ran off from the first stop. Looking at how the second two cops acted, I'd have to question if this first cop didn't do something which caused the woman to flee for her safety.

Cops need to take a step back and realize their job is to protect and serve. It's not them vs us.

But the woman ran before that happened. Cop pulled over driver, driver fled, police pursued, attempted to arrest driver, driver resisted, officer was assaulted by driver's son.

You say "he busted the window for no reason". The truth is he busted a window while going after a kid who had just committed a felony.

Man Rochard...you should just stop typing.

I'm losing respect for you by the second here. And I know I'm not the only one.

If for nothing else...just let it go for the sake of business and friendship. You're making yourself appear like a coward and a kiss-ass. And I don't think you really are either of those things.