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FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 10:13 PM

now i would love to see that. from listening to this ruiz fight, jones seems like a legit heavyweight, but he's short.

clickpimp · 03-01-2003, 10:18 PM

updates? anyone?

Mr.Fiction · 03-01-2003, 10:20 PM

Jones is winning.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/

Live feed of the fight.

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 10:20 PM

jones up 5-1 going by bbc play by play. check the other thread there's a link to the bbc page with the play by play

Danny_C · 03-01-2003, 10:47 PM

There's also this...

http://www.msnbc.com/news/879543.asp

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 10:55 PM

i think tyson would match up well with jones. they're both under 6 feet so jones might be the only guy with less reach than tyson in the heavyweight division.

jones should beat him, but i think tyson could get inside on him to throw a big punch.

galleryseek · 03-01-2003, 11:05 PM

anyone have a vid. clip

xxxdesign-net · 03-01-2003, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
i think tyson would match up well with jones. they're both under 6 feet so jones might be the only guy with less reach than tyson in the heavyweight division.

jones should beat him, but i think tyson could get inside on him to throw a big punch.

nah... Tyson has NO juice...

you saw it with Lewis... first round was good... then he looked like an old grandma...

To be interesting... Tyson would have to miraculously become sane... train like a mad man, get in the best shape he ever was... then.. just then... it might be interesting....

I would personally like to see Jones Vs Tua !

Jones Vs Lewis will never happen... Lewis would kill him....

Manga1 · 03-01-2003, 11:16 PM

Ruiz was completely outclassed. That fight was all Jones. I still don't think he's a legit heavyweight though. As was already said, I think a real heavyweight champ like Lewis would kill him.

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 11:24 PM

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nah... Tyson has NO juice...

you saw it with Lewis... first round was good... then he looked like an old grandma...

To be interesting... Tyson would have to miraculously become sane... train like a mad man, get in the best shape he ever was... then.. just then... it might be interesting....

I would personally like to see Jones Vs Tua !

Jones Vs Lewis will never happen... Lewis would kill him....

lewis' reach advantage frustrated tyson. jones wouldn't have that advantage over tyson.

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Manga1
Ruiz was completely outclassed. That fight was all Jones. I still don't think he's a legit heavyweight though. As was already said, I think a real heavyweight champ like Lewis would kill him.

jones is under 6 feet and under 200, you can't compare a heavyweight to jones. jones is a light heavyweight in the 170sh class. pound for pound he could be the best boxer ever.

Gman.357 · 03-02-2003, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

jones is under 6 feet and under 200, you can't compare a heavyweight to jones. jones is a light heavyweight in the 170sh class. pound for pound he could be the best boxer ever.

I totally agree. Jones would never be able to take the power of Tyson or the size of Lewis. He's just too light and too small. He's got mad skills, but let's not forget, Tyson is short for a heavyweight, but he's still in the 220lbs. range and still retains some of that legendary punching power to knock out just about anyone at any time. And forget about Lewis. He's just too big and strong for Jones.

Mutt · 03-02-2003, 02:48 AM

Jones would be insane not to take a fight with Tyson. Jones has made alot of money but never the kind of money he could get from a Tyson fight. This fight would make more money than Tyson/Lewis II. Americans because Lewis bolted Canada and put on that phoney English accent have never been much interested in him. Jones being an American and undersized would be a huge people's choice against Tyson. The worst that could happen to him is that Tyson knocks him out, Jones walks away with 10 million dollars. Tell me anybody here who wouldn't get knocked out for 10 million dollars? Don't think so.

Lennox might be the one who loses out here, he wants to retire but one more huge 15-20 million dollar payday for batting around Tyson a second time is hard to resist. If the boxing powers decide it's Tyson/Jones that will make more money Lennox will have nobody to fight, i don't think he wants to fight that Russian.
If Jones wins, say goodbye to a Lewis/Tyson rematch, that will be it for Tyson finally. And no way will Jones go in the ring against Lewis, and i don't blame him, just too big a size differential.

the indigo · 03-02-2003, 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Jones would be insane not to take a fight with Tyson. Jones has made alot of money but never the kind of money he could get from a Tyson fight. This fight would make more money than Tyson/Lewis II. Americans because Lewis bolted Canada and put on that phoney English accent have never been much interested in him. Jones being an American and undersized would be a huge people's choice against Tyson. The worst that could happen to him is that Tyson knocks him out, Jones walks away with 10 million dollars. Tell me anybody here who wouldn't get knocked out for 10 million dollars? Don't think so.

Lennox might be the one who loses out here, he wants to retire but one more huge 15-20 million dollar payday for batting around Tyson a second time is hard to resist. If the boxing powers decide it's Tyson/Jones that will make more money Lennox will have nobody to fight, i don't think he wants to fight that Russian.
If Jones wins, say goodbye to a Lewis/Tyson rematch, that will be it for Tyson finally. And no way will Jones go in the ring against Lewis, and i don't blame him, just too big a size differential.

Jones *HATES* to get hurt. He will NEVER fight Tyson. Trust me on that one.

maxjohan · 03-02-2003, 05:19 AM

anyone have a clip`?

Number1Thumb · 03-02-2003, 06:28 AM

Jones a Heavyweight? Hahahahah Ya right. Ruiz is barely the heavyweight to talk about. Jones has NEVER been hit by a real Hweight. Oh ya and that PAPER title that Ruiz held means nothing. I am no fan of Tyson but be honest withyourself and realize if Tyson was "normal" and in shape a Tyson-Jones fight would last 3 rounds max. Or any real heavyweight for that fact. Jones has just outclassed anyone in the 170's class and has looked outside his realm. Getting very lucky along the way not finding anyone with some real power. If he was to do this shit 5 years ago when there was a legitimate heavyweight class he would stand no chance.

Danny_C · 03-02-2003, 07:43 AM

Tyson does have a lot of power. If Jones could stay away from him for a round or two, he might have a chance, but all it would take would be for one good punch to land.

And Tua... he's probably the hardest punching heavyweight there is. He'd launch Jones out of the ring.

I'll tell you the perfect match-up that I'd like to see: Tua vs. Tyson. Now THAT would be a fight. They're probably the two hardest hitting heavyweights, and they're both short. They both had the exact same problem against Lewis - they're probably a bit better than Lewis, but they just couldn't get inside because of his long monkey-reach. Tua's actually my favorite heavyweight. I think he'd kill Tyson.

FlyingIguana · 03-02-2003, 10:15 AM

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Jones a Heavyweight? Hahahahah Ya right. Ruiz is barely the heavyweight to talk about. Jones has NEVER been hit by a real Hweight. Oh ya and that PAPER title that Ruiz held means nothing. I am no fan of Tyson but be honest withyourself and realize if Tyson was "normal" and in shape a Tyson-Jones fight would last 3 rounds max. Or any real heavyweight for that fact. Jones has just outclassed anyone in the 170's class and has looked outside his realm. Getting very lucky along the way not finding anyone with some real power. If he was to do this shit 5 years ago when there was a legitimate heavyweight class he would stand no chance.

lucky? he's beaten the best in 3 weight classes and moved up because there was no competition. tyson would have to drop weight to fight jones, tyson is more of a natural 210sh fighter. that would give him his speed back which could be enough to knock out jones. i don't know if jones has the power to knock out tyson. ruiz has power, he knocked down holyfield and he has one of the best chins in boxing.

it would be the most interesting fight for jones because there's nobody in his weight class that is worth fighting.

Thrawn$ · 03-02-2003, 10:27 AM

Jones vs Tyson

this will be the biggest evening of the human history

playa · 03-02-2003, 11:10 AM

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Jones vs Tyson

this will be the biggest evening of the human history

I'd betcha Pay per view would cost $100 for that event

and the people will pay it

xxxdesign-net · 03-02-2003, 11:23 AM

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I'd betcha Pay per view would cost $100 for that event

and the people will pay it

$100...? mmmh.. illegal cable hookup sounds more and more interesting....

As for Tyson... didnt saw the Ethienne fight... but he's old, no juice... crazy... he is too unpredictable...
Could tyson beat holyfield? and holyfield got his ass kicked by Ruiz....
and Chris Bird is no match... similar to Jones... he started in middle weight or light heavyweight... then eat couple of burgers and got into heavyweight... Jones would smoke him!

Jones Vs Tua or Rahman ....

FlyingIguana · 03-02-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

$100...? mmmh.. illegal cable hookup sounds more and more interesting....

As for Tyson... didnt saw the Ethienne fight... but he's old, no juice... crazy... he is too unpredictable...
Could tyson beat holyfield? and holyfield got his ass kicked by Ruiz....
and Chris Bird is no match... similar to Jones... he started in middle weight or light heavyweight... then eat couple of burgers and got into heavyweight... Jones would smoke him!

Jones Vs Tua or Rahman ....

i think tyson would knock ruiz out. tyson matches up well with ruiz.

johnny1 · 03-02-2003, 08:36 PM

JONES VS TYSON..........Tyson fast and still stong...would be the ultimate match-up...Tyson in 4 ROUNDS.

FadeEP · 03-02-2003, 08:44 PM

Anyone seen Tyson's tatoo? WTF is that?

drunkmonkey · 03-02-2003, 08:56 PM

Jones vs Byrd

It would be like watching a break dance fight

FlyingIguana · 03-02-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by johnny1
JONES VS TYSON..........Tyson fast and still stong...would be the ultimate match-up...Tyson in 4 ROUNDS.

i could only imagine the shit talking going on from both sides

MarkTiarra · 03-02-2003, 09:09 PM

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Jones vs Byrd

It would be like watching a break dance fight

I would LOVE to see that fight! I've been a Byrd fan for a long time and the amount fo skill he has and being smaller... it would make for a heavyweight version of Mosley vs. De La Hoya. That was a punchfest.

SetTheWorldonFire · 03-02-2003, 10:02 PM

i think tyson could knock his ass out if he gets his shit together.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:05 PM

Roy Jones is a great fighter but he would ZERO chance against Tyson. First off, Tyson is a far better fighter than Ruiz, even in decline. Much faster (his handspeed is close to Roy's, if not as good) and much much stronger with far better skills. Second, Roy would never be able to hurt Tyson, who has a granite chin, but Mike shot's would be far too powerful for Roy to take. Insane to even think about that matchup. Tyson detonates big heavyweights when he lands clean, he'd knock Roy thru the ropes if he hit him on the arm.

Roy knew what he was doing when he took on Louise, but he's not crazy.

bhutocracy · 03-02-2003, 10:09 PM

Tyson vs Tua is the fight I want to see.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:11 PM

Also Holyfield really won 2 out of 3 against Lousie, he got robbed in one of those decisions. Holy was a younger, better fighter when he fought Tyson and Holy is considerably bigger than Jones. Roy wouldn't consider taking on Holyfield in his prime and maybe not even now. Ruiz would have been murdered by Holyfield if he had met him in his prime.

it's well known in the boxing world that Louise is a joke, and he was going to go down hard in the first fight where the ref didn't allow him to jab and grab and fake groin shots every time he got hit in the body (i.e. the first time he had to fight somebody without fellow Peurto Rican Joe Cortez as the referee).

Size matters in boxing, the only reason Roy could do what he did is because Ruiz couldn't hit him clean and wasn't allowed to maul him, and Ruiz doesn't hit that hard in the first place except with his head and elbows.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:13 PM

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Tyson vs Tua is the fight I want to see.

Tyson v. Tua is a toss up, they both hit like God and they both have rock hard chins. I'd pick Tyson just because he's a bit faster. Tyson is rusty and on the decline but he's far more versatile than Tua, who really only has a left hook and is on the downside of his career himself. He showed a right hand against Oquendo, but that doesn't mean a lot. Tyson can kill you with either hand with any punch.

xxxdesign-net · 03-02-2003, 10:14 PM

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it's well known in the boxing world that Louise is a joke,

who is Louise?

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:20 PM

John Ruiz = Louise

it's the nick everyone uses except him. he calls himself 'The Quiet Man'. Everyone else calls him 'Louise'.

FlyingIguana · 03-02-2003, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
Roy Jones is a great fighter but he would ZERO chance against Tyson. First off, Tyson is a far better fighter than Ruiz, even in decline. Much faster (his handspeed is close to Roy's, if not as good) and much much stronger with far better skills. Second, Roy would never be able to hurt Tyson, who has a granite chin, but Mike shot's would be far too powerful for Roy to take. Insane to even think about that matchup. Tyson detonates big heavyweights when he lands clean, he'd knock Roy thru the ropes if he hit him on the arm.

Roy knew what he was doing when he took on Louise, but he's not crazy.

tyson does not have anywhere near the skills of jones

Danny_C · 03-02-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by dig420

Tyson v. Tua is a toss up, they both hit like God and they both have rock hard chins. I'd pick Tyson just because he's a bit faster. Tyson is rusty and on the decline but he's far more versatile than Tua, who really only has a left hook and is on the downside of his career himself. He showed a right hand against Oquendo, but that doesn't mean a lot. Tyson can kill you with either hand with any punch.

Tyson wouldn't have a chance against Tua. Tyson does NOT have a stone chin (I think I can recall him being knocked the fuck out a couple of times), but name a single time you've ever even seen Tua hurt. He's like a granite statue... nothing fazes the guy.

And as for punching power, again, Tua's power is insane. Tyson has a great punch, but nothing like Tua.

I'd agree that Tyson is faster than Tua, but it would only take a few rounds before Tyson was worn down, and then Tua would take him out.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:36 PM

You're underestimating Tyson, my friend. In his day he was one of the best heavyweights ever. He has excellent, excellent skills.

FlyingIguana · 03-02-2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
You're underestimating Tyson, my friend. In his day he was one of the best heavyweights ever. He has excellent, excellent skills.

in his day. tyson is only a fraction of what he once was.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C

Tyson wouldn't have a chance against Tua. Tyson does NOT have a stone chin (I think I can recall him being knocked the fuck out a couple of times), but name a single time you've ever even seen Tua hurt. He's like a granite statue... nothing fazes the guy.

And as for punching power, again, Tua's power is insane. Tyson has a great punch, but nothing like Tua.

I'd agree that Tyson is faster than Tua, but it would only take a few rounds before Tyson was worn down, and then Tua would take him out.

Tua was hurt badly by Ike Ibeabuchi. No shame in that, Ibeabuchi was a monster before he went to prison. Tua still hung tough and almost took the fight.

Most fight commentators would tell you that Tyson hits harder than Tua, but in practical effect they both hit so hard that it doesn't matter who hits slightly harder.

Tyson took horrible beatings before going down against Douglas and especially against Lewis. He does indeed have a rock jaw.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

in his day. tyson is only a fraction of what he once was.

yep that's true, but the skills don't leave you, they're just harder to use. Things he used to do naturally he now has to think about before doing them and against top top fighters that's just too late. Against second level guys like Ruiz, who never had those skills to begin with, it's enough.

FlyingIguana · 03-02-2003, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by dig420

Tua was hurt badly by Ike Ibeabuchi. No shame in that, Ibeabuchi was a monster before he went to prison. Tua still hung tough and almost took the fight.

Tyson took horrible beatings before going down against Douglas and especially against Lewis. He does indeed have a rock jaw.

i still think tyson won that fight vs douglas. thats around the time when tyson really went downhill. he just wasn't moving well against douglas. i doubt he was training seriously and he didn't take douglas serious at all. he never really was the same after.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

i still think tyson won that fight vs douglas. thats around the time when tyson really went downhill. he just wasn't moving well against douglas. i doubt he was training seriously and he didn't take douglas serious at all. he never really was the same after.

he didn't win that fight lol, he was KTFO on the canvas. Tyson hasn't really trained seriously since he was in his early 20's if you can believe what you read. He can get by most fighters on speed, talent and skill alone but his lack of conditioning and light sparring betrayed him against the A level guys like Holyfield and Lewis. Douglas, on that one night, was a master boxer. He was never able to put it together like that again.

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C

Tyson wouldn't have a chance against Tua. Tyson does NOT have a stone chin (I think I can recall him being knocked the fuck out a couple of times), but name a single time you've ever even seen Tua hurt. He's like a granite statue... nothing fazes the guy.

Only Tua and maybe Ray Mercer could have taken the beating Tyson took against Lewis as long as he did.

FlyingIguana · 03-02-2003, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by dig420

he didn't win that fight lol, he was KTFO on the canvas. Tyson hasn't really trained seriously since he was in his early 20's if you can believe what you read. He can get by most fighters on speed, talent and skill alone but his lack of conditioning and light sparring betrayed him against the A level guys like Holyfield and Lewis. Douglas, on that one night, was a master boxer. He was never able to put it together like that again.

douglas had a slow count. i still think he didn't get up in 10 seconds. tyson knocked him the fuck out

dig420 · 03-02-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

douglas had a slow count. i still think he didn't get up in 10 seconds. tyson knocked him the fuck out

yeah it's debatable. I think his head was clear and he was ready to get up regardless, he was watching the ref and waiting for him to hit 9 before he got up, but who knows.

ronin · 03-02-2003, 11:49 PM

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now i would love to see that. from listening to this ruiz fight, jones seems like a legit heavyweight, but he's short.

NO WAY is Jones a legit heavyweight!!

drunkmonkey · 03-03-2003, 12:18 AM

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I would LOVE to see that fight! I've been a Byrd fan for a long time and the amount fo skill he has and being smaller... it would make for a heavyweight version of Mosley vs. De La Hoya. That was a punchfest.

Same here. Jones is just too quick on his feet for most heavyweights. Jones will win most of his fights by decision like Byrd does.

Byrd is the fastest heavyweight I have ever seen. Jones and Byrd are almost identical in style. Jones hits harder but Byrd is faster. It would be an awesome fight.

FlyingIguana · 03-03-2003, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by ronin

NO WAY is Jones a legit heavyweight!!

well he's really a middleweight, but he can hang heavyweights because of his speed and ring savvy.

Rodent · 03-03-2003, 01:07 AM

Jones wouldnt face a better heavyweight than ruiz. He only takes things that are for granted that he will win, and jones vs lewis/tyson isnt a sure thing he would win so not likely to happen.

ronin · 03-03-2003, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

well he's really a middleweight, but he can hang heavyweights because of his speed and ring savvy.

NO SHIT he's a middleweight...was that new info to YOU?
wait till he gets HIT by a REAL heavyweight.

come on..it was a PAY DAY!

03-01-2003, 10:13 PM	#1
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	jones vs tyson? now i would love to see that. from listening to this ruiz fight, jones seems like a legit heavyweight, but he's short.

03-02-2003, 02:48 AM	#13
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Jones would be insane not to take a fight with Tyson. Jones has made alot of money but never the kind of money he could get from a Tyson fight. This fight would make more money than Tyson/Lewis II. Americans because Lewis bolted Canada and put on that phoney English accent have never been much interested in him. Jones being an American and undersized would be a huge people's choice against Tyson. The worst that could happen to him is that Tyson knocks him out, Jones walks away with 10 million dollars. Tell me anybody here who wouldn't get knocked out for 10 million dollars? Don't think so. Lennox might be the one who loses out here, he wants to retire but one more huge 15-20 million dollar payday for batting around Tyson a second time is hard to resist. If the boxing powers decide it's Tyson/Jones that will make more money Lennox will have nobody to fight, i don't think he wants to fight that Russian. If Jones wins, say goodbye to a Lewis/Tyson rematch, that will be it for Tyson finally. And no way will Jones go in the ring against Lewis, and i don't blame him, just too big a size differential. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	i think tyson could knock his ass out if he gets his shit together. __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

03-01-2003, 10:18 PM	#2
clickpimp Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,159	updates? anyone?

03-01-2003, 10:20 PM	#3
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Jones is winning. http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ Live feed of the fight.

03-01-2003, 10:47 PM	#5
Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	There's also this... http://www.msnbc.com/news/879543.asp

03-01-2003, 10:55 PM	#6
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i think tyson would match up well with jones. they're both under 6 feet so jones might be the only guy with less reach than tyson in the heavyweight division. jones should beat him, but i think tyson could get inside on him to throw a big punch.

03-01-2003, 11:05 PM	#7
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	anyone have a vid. clip

03-01-2003, 11:16 PM	#9
Manga1 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Malakiaville Posts: 952	Ruiz was completely outclassed. That fight was all Jones. I still don't think he's a legit heavyweight though. As was already said, I think a real heavyweight champ like Lewis would kill him.

03-02-2003, 06:28 AM	#16
Number1Thumb Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,135	Jones a Heavyweight? Hahahahah Ya right. Ruiz is barely the heavyweight to talk about. Jones has NEVER been hit by a real Hweight. Oh ya and that PAPER title that Ruiz held means nothing. I am no fan of Tyson but be honest withyourself and realize if Tyson was "normal" and in shape a Tyson-Jones fight would last 3 rounds max. Or any real heavyweight for that fact. Jones has just outclassed anyone in the 170's class and has looked outside his realm. Getting very lucky along the way not finding anyone with some real power. If he was to do this shit 5 years ago when there was a legitimate heavyweight class he would stand no chance.

03-02-2003, 07:43 AM	#17
Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	Tyson does have a lot of power. If Jones could stay away from him for a round or two, he might have a chance, but all it would take would be for one good punch to land. And Tua... he's probably the hardest punching heavyweight there is. He'd launch Jones out of the ring. I'll tell you the perfect match-up that I'd like to see: Tua vs. Tyson. Now THAT would be a fight. They're probably the two hardest hitting heavyweights, and they're both short. They both had the exact same problem against Lewis - they're probably a bit better than Lewis, but they just couldn't get inside because of his long monkey-reach. Tua's actually my favorite heavyweight. I think he'd kill Tyson.

03-02-2003, 08:36 PM	#23
johnny1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MTL Posts: 872	JONES VS TYSON..........Tyson fast and still stong...would be the ultimate match-up...Tyson in 4 ROUNDS.

03-02-2003, 08:44 PM	#24
FadeEP Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 138	Anyone seen Tyson's tatoo? WTF is that?

03-02-2003, 08:56 PM	#25
drunkmonkey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: behind you Posts:1,075,324 Posts: 799	Jones vs Byrd It would be like watching a break dance fight

03-02-2003, 10:05 PM	#29
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Roy Jones is a great fighter but he would ZERO chance against Tyson. First off, Tyson is a far better fighter than Ruiz, even in decline. Much faster (his handspeed is close to Roy's, if not as good) and much much stronger with far better skills. Second, Roy would never be able to hurt Tyson, who has a granite chin, but Mike shot's would be far too powerful for Roy to take. Insane to even think about that matchup. Tyson detonates big heavyweights when he lands clean, he'd knock Roy thru the ropes if he hit him on the arm. Roy knew what he was doing when he took on Louise, but he's not crazy.

03-02-2003, 10:09 PM	#30
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	Tyson vs Tua is the fight I want to see.

03-02-2003, 10:11 PM	#31
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Also Holyfield really won 2 out of 3 against Lousie, he got robbed in one of those decisions. Holy was a younger, better fighter when he fought Tyson and Holy is considerably bigger than Jones. Roy wouldn't consider taking on Holyfield in his prime and maybe not even now. Ruiz would have been murdered by Holyfield if he had met him in his prime. it's well known in the boxing world that Louise is a joke, and he was going to go down hard in the first fight where the ref didn't allow him to jab and grab and fake groin shots every time he got hit in the body (i.e. the first time he had to fight somebody without fellow Peurto Rican Joe Cortez as the referee). Size matters in boxing, the only reason Roy could do what he did is because Ruiz couldn't hit him clean and wasn't allowed to maul him, and Ruiz doesn't hit that hard in the first place except with his head and elbows.

03-02-2003, 10:20 PM	#34
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	John Ruiz = Louise it's the nick everyone uses except him. he calls himself 'The Quiet Man'. Everyone else calls him 'Louise'.

03-02-2003, 10:36 PM	#37
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	You're underestimating Tyson, my friend. In his day he was one of the best heavyweights ever. He has excellent, excellent skills.

03-03-2003, 01:07 AM	#49
Rodent Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: ReliableServers.Com Posts: 1,462	Jones wouldnt face a better heavyweight than ruiz. He only takes things that are for granted that he will win, and jones vs lewis/tyson isnt a sure thing he would win so not likely to happen. __________________ Choopa.com Colocation \| Cloud Servers \| Dedicated Servers \| CDN 1000 Gbps Network \| NJ DataCenters