no way.-

come on, a crack schmoking mayor who talks smack about killing people? that;s just the tip of the iceberg too,

why limit yourself and gfy? bring us the good stuff from up northtoo eh!

all the potential threads and comments.........it's a treasure trove for you, heck look at all the fun mutt's having with it. plenty to go around!

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He might survive the primaries, as McCain and Romney did, but he would suffer the same fate in the general as the two moderates did. Enough of the base in the swing states would choose to stay home. Christie wouldn't win any NE State vs Clinton. So it's back to a swing state / base election. And a squishy moderate doesn't bring out the Republican base.

That the GOP needs someone to teach them how to work with some of the people and not against most of the people? Agreed.

What people are you talking about, your statement is a little strange, some and most?

Democrats and Americans.

I think what he means is to make the GOP stop being anti-women, anti-black & minority, anti-gay rights, anti-abortion, anti-voting, anti-science, anti-poor, etc. The only thing GOP seems to be Pro about is christian nut jobs and warming up the planet.

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath in a court of law.

No...it is not an impeachable lie.

All the politics is turning really fun lately no matter the country. Talk about a friggin' circus. This stuff didn't used to come out for decades, if not centuries. Now it's daily.

The US spies on everyone - Germany gets really peeved.

Then turns out Germany's been spying on the US as well.

Rob Ford gets so drunk he does crack. He rants. He's a phreak! Canadian politics now include a pothead, a coke sniffer and a drunk potential crackhead.

Just in Montreal we have a commission investigating the highest level of corruption and organized crime implicating the construction industry since Prohibition and Jimmy Hoffa. Three mayors have been booted, resigned or taken out in handcuffs - and these were the interim guys until the most recent election.

Stephen Harper, our current Prime Minister, is sitting on a probable conspiracy report between Canadian and American intelligence/military agencies regarding rendition of supposed terrorism suspects.

Harper is also at the head of a wonderful coverup not really being investigated where he or his office is covering up his covering up senators he appointed bilking public funds for their personal purposes.

There's also an endless oilspill that's destroyed Alberta wild lands which was covered up since it started, and which they have no idea when or why or how it happened or how they can cap it...

Italy's Berlusconi is being railroaded on fraud after getting whacked for partying with one of the hottest (underage) escorts since Cleopatra.

The Israelis are doing everything they can to derail any rational outcome or transparency for the Iranian talks with the international community regarding their non-existent military nuclear ambitions.

The Russians declare war on homosexuality. The Russians arrest protesters in international waters.

The Japanese government aren't soliciting the help of the international community to move the superhot nuclear fuel rods from their precarious broken down reactor because of... politics!

It's just not stopping! Fun fun fun!

Entertainment, as George Carlin called it...

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**********'s head just exploded.

If he were running against Clinton he might have a decent chance. If there is one thing the conservative christian right hates more than a moderate candidate it is a Clinton.

Their hatred of all things Clinton could get some of them to turn out and support him.

Also, he could put New Jersey in play which would force the democrat to spend time and money defending a state that would normally be an easy win.

It's just simpler to say Pro GOP .

Been a long time since they looked out for anyone other than themselves.

Possible, but even when he was winning 61% of the vote on Tuesday, exit polls had him still losing by 6 points to Clinton in NJ. Not great.

Did you read what I wrote? No "I" don't have a issue with a Republican that is willing to work with Obama, but your right wing blowhards do. The fanatic tea party was calling him a traitor and a whole list of names when he spoke up about how well Obama did in meeting his states needs after Sandy.

Ahahah but I doubt it. Me and he agree on most of these things...

I found Canadian politics boring until recently. American politics ARE much more fun.

I like Rachel Maddow.

I like RON Paul.

Rand Paul has always been a bitch in my eyes.

But what he's "done" isn't plagiarism. He's just overly relied too much on his clueless idiot speechwriters.

After the first word-for-word description borrowed from the wikipedia entry, he should have fired those sorry-ass so-called writers.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me?

Yeah, it looks like the same lazy idiots made the same lazy idiot mistake of copy-pasting from wikipedia. Big-whoop.

You can't blame Paul other than bad management.

Oh and if anyone brings up the Biden "plagiarism" stuff, remember that PR firms work for both parties and can have lazy-ass idiots working for them too, from country to country...

In the end it doesn't matter. Paul is a sock-puppet, just there to make it look like a "competitive" race. Christie is going to be the GOP goto guy. Unless, of course, he switches like a few have done lately, and becomes a Democrat...

In a way, US politics is a lot easier, because of the bullshit two-party system, than Canadian politics and the mishmash fun of Parliamentary "drama".

:D

Rand Paul is nearly as nuts as dear old dad...but yes I can see a path to the nomination for him despite the copy cat shit...Christie is going to get torn a new asshole in the primaries by the far right

Wow, you say that like the democrats have a clean slate

The first republican president was Lincoln "emancipation proclamation" and the Southern Democrats had the KKK, wasn't that long ago when a KKK member was a democrat senator named Robert Byrd.

Gay Rights? Ever hear of the log cabin republicans, or in the late 1970s Ronald Reagan wrote a response in his LA Herald-Examiner column to the organization backing the California Briggs Initiative, stating that he opposed the proposed ban on gay public school teachers. Reagan's daughter, Patti Davis, wrote an article in the New York Times where she recalled her father talking about Rock Hudson's homosexuality in an accepting and tolerant manner.

Anti Science? Because they seem to be more religious as a whole, many republicans believe in evolution, if that's where you're going.

Anti - Poor? You mean like the almost 21 million people out of work because of an administration that has other things on it's agenda and seems to have no answer for those poor people unemployed?

Anti-abortion, This is a talking point I don't share with the republicans, But there are other things as well.

It seems you are judging the republicans as a whole and they are all the same, sort of like how the KKK treats black people!

I applaud Christie for working with a democratic president, I'm not a republican, but you sure like to pigeon hole me as one. They thought he was a traitor because he worked with Obama during hurricane Sandy and they believe that's what killed Romney's chances, where was Romney?

I think you have a problem with Christie because he is a threat to the liberals because he is a moderate republican.

Christie's appeal is that he's about getting the job done, his record shows just that and no one can argue with that.

and for the record, I have no wings

Funny to watch political opponents try to pick the other "sides" nominee.

I remember just a couple of years ago...all the Dems were on t.v. before the campaign saying that Mitt Romney was the only moderate Republican left in the race and the only hope for Republicans was that he could beat Gingrich and/or Santorum.

Then the minute he did win the nomination....they turned on him like Dobermans. LOL!

They did the same thing to McCain in 2008. Before the election he was the "maverick" and they loved him! Then they turned on him.
And now...they love him again. He's the "voice of reason"

They'll do the same thing to Christie.
Christie is a likeable guy for sure. But he's also the guy who has done everything in his power to stop gay marriage in New Jersey. He panders just as much to the religious right as every other Republican politician.

It's a shame that the majority of people are convinced they can only choose between "bad" and "worse" (depending on which "Side" you are on).

I hope Gary Johnson runs again. And I hope that for once...people will listen to what he says he wants to do and not just follow the Dem VS Repub like it's some kind of sporting event.

actually, it seems that, like **********, you like opinions on american politics more than american politics. rachel maddow is an enjoyable show but, well, it's not c-span, which is direct coverage of the essence of american politics today, not nbc news.

but the op has already shown a slanted and misguided view of american politics as it is, especially texas politics.

anyhoo, i couldn't care less about rand paul and plagiarism. i grew up in ron paul's congressional district back in the 70s, in fact, i'm very familiar with the paul family's political nonsense, which, back to my point, pales in comparison to crack smoking canadian mayor of the moment.

either way, it's an observation on the op, tons of fodder for canadian political threads he could start in the same tone as ALL the ones he starts re: american bs politics.

I am sure Rand Paul will be run out of politics for his borrowing a few sentences.

Just like Manwin and others have been run out of the adult online business for borrowing a few videos.

So many of you are ready to hang Rand Paul, yet you kiss the asses of people in this business that steal from you every day. Way to keep your eye on the ball guys!

actually that isn't too bad considering Obama beat Romney by 17 points in NJ and we are still years away from the next presidential election.

If he does well as governor between now and then he could close that gap. He may not win the state, but just putting it in play could be a big deal.

Well I do enjoy editorials on US politics, whether by US or international commentators. I "enjoy" them but I don't agree with most of them regardless of partisanship. I do think that what is usually put down as left-wing/socialistic/blablah is still more sensical than the right-wing I-still-don't-know-who-runs-this-party blather of the new post-tea-party GOP.

Granted. But whether it's Hannity or Maddow (as an example of two who do and don't do their research btw), it's a hella lot more interesting than CSpan. It's great to watch full unspun verbiage from the particular party reps, but that is the raw material the idiot talking heads use for their "stories". And stories they are.

Entirely your point of view, but as to texas politics you'd have to be a little more specific...

I like Ron Paul. I agree with the rest, and I'm sure the major American political families are deeply enough implicated in crazy, eye-widening craziness they're due for some spectacular comeuppance.

Hm.. but why would his nationality prevent him from having an opinion on US drama/politcs? Most of us here don't seem to care about international politics to start with, let alone domestic politics. Someone from an outside culture might be able to provide some insight.

I don't know about ALL his american bs politics threads, but I wouldn't blame anyone for finding US gobspitting entertaining.

It's actuallly kinda like GFY, without the dirty werds...

:D

the election was supposed to be a competition, but with romney in the lead of the republican party they just had already pissed the opportunity away. you look at romney and what do you see you see everything the republican party shouldn't be in 2013 but when you look at obama you see a socially aware democrat or liberal and everything the democrats should be.

the election should have been about comparing oranges with oranges not oranges with bananas. the right needed to become more left, not more far over to the right.

LOL don't you just have a lot of wishful thinking.. I could care less about Christie running for office.. Unless he ran as a democrat he has zero chance in winning. The Republican Party is so divided by the fringe groups that they don't have a chance of winning the next election even if Jesus himself ran.. Hell they would even hate Jesus...

As far as pigeonholing you, I'm sorry but there is no need for me or anyone else to do that.. You do it all by your self with your constant rages about anything Obama does. It doesn't matter what he does, be it good or bad, you bitch and moan about it anyway.

I understand the limits of your thinking, I just thought you would read more into it, guess not.
I'm against the president, the president is the leader of the Democratic party. That's all he ever sees, never working with the Republicans. You see him as the leader of the Democratic party as well and not the leader of the people of the US, therefore, anyone that speaks against him is a Republican in your limited vision. He has done what he wants to do, drive more separation in the American people than any other president in history.


And please, tell what he has done that's good, I'm still waiting to see that!!!

I see exactly what you are there is nothing more to see. You endlessly bash Obama but never have a bad thing to say about the right. No matter what happens, it's alway Obama..

Can you even find a single topic that you started saying that you didn't like something anyone from the right did? Can you even find a single post where you said Obama did something right? You are a hater pure and simple and your hate is always directed at the same place. You are the fringe, the right wing talking heads play you like a puppet..

You should be thrilled that the ACA now forces insurance companies to cover mental conditions.

i chuckled a little but decided to leave the reply to you...

Have you ever seen me starting a thread praising the GOP?

Leave your answer here........

I love when liberals have no answer but to call others names, haters, racist, whatever. You are just a shallow person that believes whatever the president says

Oh , you never did answer what he did that was good?

I'll make it hard, what did he do that effected me in a positive way?

Umm yea sure you are obviously the pentacle of being moderate and center of the road.. I see you couldn't find a single topic where you bashed any single person from the right, like you do non stop with Obama. I also see you can't even utter out a single thing that Obama has done that you can agree with or say he did a good job on.

So now instead of coming up with a honest reply, to this question which I asked you two times before in two separate topic, yet once again you have to dodge it, with no answer.

Seriously dude your hate is going to eat you alive..

HAhahahaha.... geeze... do you realize that some of the things you said above are very very old? I am talking about modern republicans... and especially the current ones who are taking it up the ass by tea partiers.


And yes, Gay Rights! Let people marry who they want to marry and make the Michelle Bachmans of the US Shut the fuck up already and move on to more important things. Washington Post

Yeah, um, no not just evolution. Anti Global Warming. Anti Stem cell research, etc etc.

Wow are you freaking kidding me? How come I know more about this than you do? Jobs are increasing in the US by about 200,000 every month. Compare that to how many jobs were lost (up to 800,00 jobs lost per month under George W Bush)

http://media.aintitcool.com/coolprod...jpg?1338500265

The republican house cut $40 Billion from the food stamp program:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3957509.html

Not true. Some republicans in the past have done some good things. Richard Nixon started the EPA for example, and George W Bush declared 140,000 square miles of ocean as a park called the Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument (or often Northwestern Hawaiian Islands Marine National Monument). So some republicans, even asshole republicans, can still do bits of good. Both are awesome things. I disagree with RON paul on a few things and he has some skeletons in his closet too but I wouldn't call him completely bad either.

Gary Johnson didn't even receive 1% of the vote in the 2012 Presidential Election, so good luck with that... :1orglaugh

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/polit...ages/cover.gif

It would be interesting if the Libertarians, Green Party, and other people unhappy with the "two-party system", would spearhead a movement for proportional representation, so that instead of being a spoiler which ends up actually hurting the party they are more closely aligned with, and actually helping the party they are less like, they could have some representation, or join a coalition with the party they are more like, in order to get parts of their minority agenda considered (examples in the US would be Ross Perot hurting Bush and helping Clinton, and Ralph Nader hurting Al Gore and helping Bush Jr).

The current system is stacked against alternative candidates/parties, and makes third party challenges rather futile. :2 cents:

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ADG

Except the Libertarians are not "like" either party.

They are far more liberal than Democrats. And are far "less govt." than Republicans.

So a true Libertarian doesn't "hurt" either of the 2 monopoly parties at all. Sheep will be sheep and continue voting for the 2 parties that have done EVERYTHING wrong to this country in the last 100 years.

As for him only getting 1% of the vote in 2012...see the last sentence I wrote above.

People are scared of big changes. The govt. has us convinced that we can't live our daily lives without their "guidance".

The govt. (feds, state, county, city) feel that every dollar you earn is THEIRS. And they are nice enough to let you keep almost 50% of it by the time they all get done with you (including sales tax).

And they know BETTER than you how you should run your life.

That is what scares the hell out of them about true Libertarians: Any thought that people can pretty much run their own lives and that govt. is a necessary evil that should be kept as unobtrusive as possible gets them to screaming "Anarchy".

No, it's not "anarchy".
99% of the laws in place would still be in place.

But the drug laws would be gone.
Libertarians are pro-choice (no religious nutcases), pro science, pro stem cell research, the police would have their new "powers" cut way back.

In other words...people could have some of the personal freedoms back that this country is supposed to represent.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XW8eDVbnF0...arianssuck.jpg

Seems like libertarians have utopia all figured out, they just can't figure out how to get libertarians elected as libertarians. :1orglaugh

What I was suggesting was a way that might help your party get some representation, but you're always so contrarian that you thought I was arguing with you. :upsidedow

One problem with libertarians is that in addition to being highly argumentative, they seem content to bitch and moan, unable to come up with anything but lame brain strategies for trying to overtake the Republican party, who in the end, libertarians are most like, and are mostly being manipulated by.

Perhaps the Republican and Democratic parties invented the libertarian party to give the crackpots/extremists in both their parties something to do to keep them out of their hair, while continuing to render them impotent. :winkwink:

One thing is certain, libertarians are their own worst enemies. :2 cents:

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ADG

Whenever I saw Ron Paul start to make sense, he would continue talking and make sure I continued to think he was a crack pot.. I always said he sounded great in 10 second sound bites, but any longer and the looney came out..

This will help make sense of Ron Paul:



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ADG

No...Rand Paul would not have been selected by the Republicans...even scandal free.

ADG, you're clueless about Libertarians and politics in general.

I've pointed out to you over and over that Libertarians are pro-choice for women, anti-drug war, anti-war, anti-religion, and even openly friendly to the adult industry.

And yet you continue to insult me by claiming that Libertarians are like Republicans.

No they aren't. And I ask you again...please show me the Republicans that have the same stance on the issues as I just listed.

You look like a fool every time you post that pic and/or spout the Democrat Party propaganda about Libertarians (because the Dems KNOW that Libertarians are far more liberal than their party will ever be)

I have to say that over the past few months you have lost my respect in a lot of ways. I have no idea why you would want to do that. But you have succeeded.
Congrats!

My favorite Ron Paul moment was when he got tricked into an "interview" with Sasha Cohen as "Bruno" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh