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Old 03-01-2003, 08:57 AM   #1
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[Labret] -- Put your money where your mouth is.

Or shut the fuck up.

After I saw you post this, before the thread was closed for whatever reason, I knew I had to call you out:

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Rat --- seriously.... if you had followed your own words back in June of 2001, if you had set up a WM affiliate program for your gay network and recruited 500 "mindless newbs" to promote you....

do I really need to tell you how much cashaloota you'd have banked between then and now?
Dear dickhead,

I have more gay traffic than anyone I know, so asking others to contribute is basically pointless. I dont need newbs. I concentrate on things FAR more important. If you do it right, you dont need anyone to push your shit for you. I am self contained. And I plan to keep it that way as long as possible.

And I have managed to bank more "cashaloota" than 98% of the people on this board.

I dont need any help running my business. I am in this for the long haul, not to get raped and driven into the dirt by a bunch of fucking newbs.

Newbs are nothing but punching bags. You know how many shit talking bullshit artist newbs like Stocktrader I have seen come and go in the last 6 years? This business has a higher attrition rate than McDonalds.

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Now, up to this point, I was only slightly irritated by your arrogance. After reading what you said here, I have to say I'm pretty dissapointed in you. Whenever I had read your posts in the past, I got the impression you were a pretty intelligent cat. Sometimes entertaining in a sadistic sort of way, but I just figured that was a result of being picked on as a little boy.

You say you got the keys to the universe? Prove it. You say you can talk shit because you can back it up? Back it up, then.

And don't give anyone any shit about how you "don't want to give the noobs all the secrets". That's complete bullshit. If your little business is so newbie-proof, then you would'nt be afraid to share it.

From what I've seen, you're completely full of shit. At this point, if you cannot be man enough to face up to this challenge, I think it's pretty safe to say you do not know what the fuck you are talking about; as i suspected.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to make enemies or create drama. If you should come with something worth a damn, I can be man enough to apologize, admit I was wrong and move on, never to give you shit again.

So, [Labret], put your money where your big fucking mouth is.
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Hmm its a bit early for popcorn...

Coffee and a cigarette instead i guess.
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So, [Labret], put your money where your big fucking mouth is.


Shut up before I buy your trailer, evict your family, and burn it to the ground for fun.

If thats not enough, I can round up my verotel, ccbill, ox, nd, and sic stats for you for the last year.

Newbs make me laugh.
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Thanks for depressing me...
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Old 03-01-2003, 09:22 AM   #8
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Nonono, stupid. When I said "money", I did'nt mean it literally. Besides, those could be anybody's.

Ok, let me rephrase the question:

What is it exactly that you do that qualifies you to be so fucking arrogant? To say that you make "more than 98% of the people on this board"?

You talk a whole lotta shit, posting screenshots of figures does'nt back anything up. For all I know, you could be some 13 year old kid with a trust fund on daddy's computer.

C'mon, man, get with it.
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Old 03-01-2003, 09:24 AM   #9
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First off, evidently you are unfamiliar with iBill stats. Not that I find that all too surprising.

Let me get this straight then. You want me to lay out step by step how I make more in a week than you make in a year?

Shut up dumbass. You are outclassed, tuck your tail and run away.
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You talk a whole lotta shit, posting screenshots of figures does'nt back anything up. For all I know, you could be some 13 year old kid with a trust fund on daddy's computer.


an Ibill trust fund?
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Old 03-01-2003, 09:29 AM   #12
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That's exactly what I expected from you. Fucking newbie.

Thanks for proving me right.
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I was in no way attempting to diminish or minimize the size of Rat's existing income or his accomplishments within the scope of his own efforts. My only point stemmed from his comments made on that old thread about wishing he had such an army of newbs pushing sites.

One only need look at any of the mega huge paysite networks to see that it is largely because of their AFFILIATE programs that they are able to claim such income levels. It is a fact.

So...

I made my "newbie" post to rat to point out that even though he might make 2 million a year.... with such an affiliate program in place that could easily double or triple.


Rat may be correct though... the headaches of running such a program may outweigh the overall gain, at least for him. I will concede that much.


The "dear dickhead" comment was a tad self-indulgent though. I found it.... amuzing, considering our history on this board. Lack of sleep perhaps? Whatever, I was in fact overjoyed to see Rat reverting back to his old self. His "softer" side was beginning to depress me.
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Shut up before I buy your trailer, evict your family, and burn it to the ground for fun.

If thats not enough, I can round up my verotel, ccbill, ox, nd, and sic stats for you for the last year.

Newbs make me laugh.
Are those Quiet's stats? J/p
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nice stats Labret

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Nonono, stupid. When I said "money", I did'nt mean it literally. Besides, those could be anybody's.

Ok, let me rephrase the question:

What is it exactly that you do that qualifies you to be so fucking arrogant? To say that you make "more than 98% of the people on this board"?

You talk a whole lotta shit, posting screenshots of figures does'nt back anything up. For all I know, you could be some 13 year old kid with a trust fund on daddy's computer.

C'mon, man, get with it.
Do yourself a favour, stop posting here and signup for N.E.T.P.O.N.D.

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Are those Quiet's stats? J/p
Add a few zeros and you have Quiets stats. I have a printed screencap of his stats in my bathroom so I can rub one off to them.
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Yeah, well, at least I'm not afraid to stop and speak up if something ain't right instead of swinging on cocks like the rest of you bitches.

Unless [Labret]'s gonna "back shit up"; If not eloquently, I think I've made my point nonetheless.
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Add a few zeros and you have Quiets stats. I have a printed screencap of his stats in my bathroom so I can rub one off to them.
rofl...i guess all that hun/every other fucking tgp on the planet paid traffic does pretty well for him
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Add a few zeros and you have Quiets stats. I have a printed screencap of his stats in my bathroom so I can rub one off to them.
That's not a bad idea.
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Hybrid, what exactly is it you want him to do/prove?

I don't get it.
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He wants Labret to tell everyone what sites he runs and how he makes his money.
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Yeah, well, at least I'm not afraid to stop and speak up if something ain't right instead of swinging on cocks like the rest of you bitches.

Unless [Labret]'s gonna "back shit up"; If not eloquently, I think I've made my point nonetheless.
There is plenty of room on my cock for you.

The only "backing up of shit" thats gonna happen today is after you hop on my ding ding. May I push up your stool?
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He wants Labret to tell everyone what sites he runs and how he makes his money.
Maybe Rat could pay everyone on this thread a thousand bucks each, you know....as "proof" of his wealth.


Just throwing out ideas here :D
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Add a few zeros and you have Quiets stats. I have a printed screencap of his stats in my bathroom so I can rub one off to them.
You do realize posting your stats here will only make you a god to these newbies you detest.

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Maybe Rat could pay everyone on this thread a thousand bucks each, you know....as "proof" of his wealth.


Just throwing out ideas here :D
This idea has merit. I like it, and it would settle things once and for all.
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You do realize posting your stats here will only make you a god to these newbies you detest.

Then they are not that bright. I know some people on here will laugh at them as they are puny in comparison. Im not crying. Im a solo operation for the most part. And very low maintenance. That sorta money goes a looooong way for someone like me. Not bad for something that started as a hobby to make some extra beer money in college.
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This idea has merit. I like it, and it would settle things once and for all.
I for one would never say another negative word towards Rat on this or any other Adult forum. God, no. But I'd tell people he's my friend.
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Unless [Labret]'s gonna "back shit up"; If not eloquently, I think I've made my point nonetheless.
So you were <i>trying</i> to point out how much of a whiney bitch you are? Kudos. I tip my hat to you, good sir.
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Few things are more entertaining than a frustrated newbie lashing out at Labret.

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Hybrid, what exactly is it you want him to do/prove?

I don't get it.
And i thought i was the only one
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That's exactly what I expected from you. Fucking newbie.

Thanks for proving me right.
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One only need look at any of the mega huge paysite networks to see that it is largely because of their AFFILIATE programs that they are able to claim such income levels. It is a fact.
Your argument is based partially on a fallacy. Companies that depend on the affiliate model have to appear big: large networks of sites, fancy parties, flashy program sites, etc. Companies that don't depend on affiliates tend to keep their heads down and their names out of the boards.
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Well he has has posted one of his paysites before. Hybrid must have been asleep that day.
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Add a few zeros and you have Quiets stats. I have a printed screencap of his stats in my bathroom so I can rub one off to them.

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I must have been. That's all I was asking for.
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Labret, just out of curiousity, why dont you move to a nicer place if you have such high income?
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Labret, just out of curiousity, why dont you move to a nicer place if you have such high income?
He wants to keep his good income....moving to a nicer place
will make the numbers move in the wrong direction......and
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Ya know, it seems like most 'programs' just take your traffic and shove it straight towards other 'programs.'

I wonder what % of profit made through affiliate traffic a large program makes from OTHER programs. And compare that to their rebills.
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Labret, just out of curiousity, why dont you move to a nicer place if you have such high income?
Dont get me started on the beauty that is Detroit. Its history, one giant sociological experiment. It was one of the largest richest cities in this country at the turn of the century. You know what kinda houses you can get here for a fraction of the price that you would pay anywhere else? And if you cant see the beauty in a gigantic decaying city, thats tragic. Im not happy in the burbs. Im not happy around yuppies. besides, I live in the same area all the Detroit cops live in and I am 3 blocks from Grosse Pointe, where all the politicians and sports stars live. Just because I am in Detroit, doesnt mean I am in the ghetto. Im tired and rambling.

I do plan on moving somewhere this summer for a year or so.

You cant make a snap judgement about Detroit just by driving through it.
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Shut up before I buy your trailer, evict your family, and burn it to the ground for fun.

If thats not enough, I can round up my verotel, ccbill, ox, nd, and sic stats for you for the last year.

Newbs make me laugh.

god damn! are we talkin US currency or Turkish Dollars?
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Old 03-01-2003, 10:13 AM   #46
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whats wrong with the ghetto ? I received a great education there.
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Old 03-01-2003, 10:16 AM   #47
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lol I love this place.
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Old 03-01-2003, 10:37 AM   #48
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Your argument is based partially on a fallacy. Companies that depend on the affiliate model have to appear big: large networks of sites, fancy parties, flashy program sites, etc. Companies that don't depend on affiliates tend to keep their heads down and their names out of the boards.
Okay, I suppose ARS, CEN, Platinum, Adult.com, Silver, Gamma, Maxcash, Flashcash, Oxcash and a gazillion others only "appear" big, but are as you say.... based on < choke > fallacy.



sorry, I am in no way knocking the individual efforts of guys like Rat or quiet. They are exceptional cases, no doubt. But the sheer mathematics of an affiliate program speaks for itself. A company with 1,000 affiliates..... a few of which send 20-50 signups a day, a few hundred that send 5-20 a day, and a few hundred more that send 1-5 a day, well.... do I really have to calculate the "fallacy" this is based on?

it is the difference between $2 mil a year and $10 mil.

And it all really goes back to the bashing of newbies. Fact is, like it or not there will always be newbies in this business. Any site that displays a "Webmasters click here" link on their site should be doing anything BUT bashing newbies. Lastly, bitching and whining about the existance of newbies is about as productive as screaming out your bedroom window for the birds to shut up. 5 minutes after you scare them off, they're back. Feed them some crumbs and get on with it already.
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Old 03-01-2003, 10:39 AM   #49
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not if you keep your pellet gun handy.

or feed them alka seltzer bits.
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Old 03-01-2003, 10:40 AM   #50
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CD has analogies coming out of every orifice.
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