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Old 10-26-2013, 10:54 AM   #1
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How much do you want to earn from a tube site?

What would be a realistic monthly average profit for you that you would consider to be GOOD enough minimum
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:02 AM   #2
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:07 AM   #3
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I'll settle for $100,000 a month less content costs. So $100,000 a month.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:15 AM   #4
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I need at least 10k a day to buy fake tits. So 11k
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:21 AM   #5
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I need at least 10k a day to buy fake tits. So 11k
Why would you need to buy new fake tits every single day?
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:35 AM   #6
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Why would you need to buy new fake tits every single day?
they don't last like they used too I guess
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:36 AM   #7
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Every girl in my town should have nice tits ;)
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:57 AM   #8
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According to what I read here, for a random adult tube site to get .50 cpm TOTAL per page views is good these days, so even the ones that get 1m a day well monetized and well positioned would make only 10k a month. The genius who can do that would probably have all sorts of other monetization tricks that mere mortals can't duplicate.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:58 AM   #9
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Old 10-26-2013, 12:47 PM   #10
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Well "on average" is about $1.37 a month.
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I'll settle for $100,000 a month less content costs. So $100,000 a month.
Let say that's true, why would you tell all these copy cats around here?
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its not how much i want, its how much i can.

and it totally depends on the site,content,business plan, monetization tactics.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:56 PM   #16
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According to what I read here, for a random adult tube site to get .50 cpm TOTAL per page views is good these days, so even the ones that get 1m a day well monetized and well positioned would make only 10k a month. The genius who can do that would probably have all sorts of other monetization tricks that mere mortals can't duplicate.
Isn't your math way off? 10 page views per unique is $150k per month or am I reading this wrong?
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:06 PM   #18
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pirate tube or legal tube?

lol

I guess most of them are pirates. They are their own pirates.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:03 PM   #19
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Isn't your math way off? 10 page views per unique is $150k per month or am I reading this wrong?
I said TOTAL per page views with an "s" you're right I should have clarified by saying for all views per unique. Most sites don't monetize every view in adult. Apparently - I don't have a tube and I'm just regurgitating what I read here - CPM is VERY hard to sell in adult. CPC is better, but from what these guys say hardly anyone does click thru.
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I said TOTAL per page views with an "s" you're right I should have clarified by saying for all views per unique. Most sites don't monetize every view in adult. Apparently - I don't have a tube and I'm just regurgitating what I read here - CPM is VERY hard to sell in adult. CPC is better, but from what these guys say hardly anyone does click thru.
Do you agree with my math? I am always curious as to how much the big tubes make. Multiple ads per page etc change the number quite a bit.
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Do you agree with my math? I am always curious as to how much the big tubes make. Multiple ads per page etc change the number quite a bit.
Yeah but I think even the best ones monetize at .37 CPM or less per page view. Click thrus sell at .01 to .05 and are perhaps 2% so even good geo traffic is worth perhaps .40CPM.

With popunders the top sites might gross $100 - 150k/m. I am not talking about XVID or XHAM etc. Those guys all negotiate their own ads and have special deals. They also have characters who calculate exactly what is best to do with their traffic.

That much traffic is really hard to get though. 30m/m uniques there are just a few who can do that.
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Yeah but I think even the best ones monetize at .37 CPM or less per page view. Click thrus sell at .01 to .05 and are perhaps 2% so even good geo traffic is worth perhaps .40CPM.

With popunders the top sites might gross $100 - 150k/m. I am not talking about XVID or XHAM etc. Those guys all negotiate their own ads and have special deals. They also have characters who calculate exactly what is best to do with their traffic.

That much traffic is really hard to get though. 30m/m uniques there are just a few who can do that.
But what you said earlier holds true today: try going from ZERO to 1 million daily views and see if A. it can even be done and B. How long would it take to achieve this? How much in terms of traffic buys, etc?

Seems like an impossible task to me (which is why I'm not doing it). Try opening up a Wal-Mart today.
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But what you said earlier holds true today: try going from ZERO to 1 million daily views and see if A. it can even be done and B. How long would it take to achieve this? How much in terms of traffic buys, etc?

Seems like an impossible task to me (which is why I'm not doing it). Try opening up a Wal-Mart today.
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But what you said earlier holds true today: try going from ZERO to 1 million daily views and see if A. it can even be done and B. How long would it take to achieve this? How much in terms of traffic buys, etc?

Seems like an impossible task to me (which is why I'm not doing it). Try opening up a Wal-Mart today.
Imagine if Walmart stole all its products and gave them away for free only selling parking spots and cooking oil. There would be plenty of other chain stores going out of business and life is good... Until the products Walmart gave away stopped coming in because they were broke from theft. It will happen in adult...guarenteed.

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Imagine if Walmart stole all its products and gave them away for free only selling parking spots and cooking oil. There would be plenty of other chain stores going out of business and life is good... Until the products Walmart gave away stopped coming in because they were broke from theft. It will happen in adult...guarenteed.
Yeah - but there is YEARS of content out there. And then the pro-am and am stuff. Each large tube may have 4 million clips.

The point is, even at extremely low CPM or CPC or even signup, some money can still be made. If it is 1/50th of what used to happen, it is still 100s of millions annually for a few people.

Like the gold rush, like the oil rush, at first it is small guys, then, inevitably, the big boys find a way in and lock it all off, generally by reducing the ability of the small guys to compete.
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According to what I read here, for a random adult tube site to get .50 cpm TOTAL per page views is good these days, so even the ones that get 1m a day well monetized and well positioned would make only 10k a month. The genius who can do that would probably have all sorts of other monetization tricks that mere mortals can't duplicate.
Anyone with a 1 million unique per day tube site making $10,000 per month, email me, we'll buy it from you today!
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Anyone with a 1 million unique per day tube site making $10,000 per month, email me, we'll buy it from you today!
See what I mean? These guys know how to spin gold and they proooooooobably won't tell us how :-)
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Imagine if Walmart stole all its products and gave them away for free only selling parking spots and cooking oil. There would be plenty of other chain stores going out of business and life is good... Until the products Walmart gave away stopped coming in because they were broke from theft. It will happen in adult...guarenteed.
Manwin are the Walmart of porn, the goal is simple - Putting their competition out of business.

They focus on growth, if you focus on that and only that then you keep getting bigger and bigger, you end up as number 1.

Of coarse the consequence is a much lower profit margin - That's what we've seen over the past 5 years, the devaluation of porn

The money/traffic is being controlled by fewer & fewer companies, if you're one of those companies left standing with a large % of the traffic. Well the simple fact is you've won

The whole thing is a numbers game

Walmark & Amazon and every big multi nation have the same goals, offer the product as cheap as possible so your competition can't compete which puts them out of business.

As much as I love the internet and all it has to offer, the entire internet is a race to the bottom. ANYTHING that isn't a physical product can be reduced in value to practically nothing.

Local Online Advert - Craigslist & Gumtree destroyed offline Buy & Sell advertising
Online News - Destroyed offline sales
Google Maps Navigation - Destroyed Sat Nav sales

And now the most recent one, Apples Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks is going to be offered for FREE.

The list is endless!
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Like the gold rush, like the oil rush, at first it is small guys, then, inevitably, the big boys find a way in and lock it all off, generally by reducing the ability of the small guys to compete.
Well said!
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Here's the main thing I don't understand about Manwin,

MyDirtyHobby - This site does great with the micro payments, it makes a lot of money and there a lots of sites like it that have ditched the subscription paysite model and focus on letting the customer buy exactly what they want to purchase. And a % spend a LOT more than your typical $29.99 subscription.

Some of those sites make an absolute fortune!

Why would you not implement this business model/setup on your adult tube network that has literally 10s of thousands of Amateurs who are uploading their clips for free and a lot of them have loyal and growing fan bases.

Perhaps someone here can explain this to me
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