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lakerslive 10-26-2013 10:54 AM

How much do you want to earn from a tube site?
 
What would be a realistic monthly average profit for you that you would consider to be GOOD enough minimum

keysync 10-26-2013 11:02 AM

12 ice creams

L-Pink 10-26-2013 11:07 AM

I'll settle for $100,000 a month less content costs. So $100,000 a month.

Markul 10-26-2013 11:15 AM

I need at least 10k a day to buy fake tits. So 11k

mineistaken 10-26-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19849134)
I need at least 10k a day to buy fake tits. So 11k

Why would you need to buy new fake tits every single day?

Grapesoda 10-26-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19849137)
Why would you need to buy new fake tits every single day?

they don't last like they used too I guess :(

Markul 10-26-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19849137)
Why would you need to buy new fake tits every single day?

Every girl in my town should have nice tits ;)

ilnjscb 10-26-2013 11:57 AM

According to what I read here, for a random adult tube site to get .50 cpm TOTAL per page views is good these days, so even the ones that get 1m a day well monetized and well positioned would make only 10k a month. The genius who can do that would probably have all sorts of other monetization tricks that mere mortals can't duplicate.

nikki99 10-26-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19849131)
I'll settle for $100,000 a month less content costs. So $100,000 a month.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 10-26-2013 12:47 PM

Well "on average" is about $1.37 a month.

DBS.US 10-26-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19849131)
I'll settle for $100,000 a month less content costs. So $100,000 a month.

Let say that's true, why would you tell all these copy cats around here?

brassmonkey 10-26-2013 01:00 PM

if you dont know wtf are you doing running one??? :2 cents:

rogueteens 10-26-2013 01:51 PM

sig spot

tamitu 10-26-2013 01:53 PM

Up to 200$ monthly per site - autosite ;)

freecartoonporn 10-26-2013 06:44 PM

its not how much i want, its how much i can.

and it totally depends on the site,content,business plan, monetization tactics.

slapass 10-26-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19849168)
According to what I read here, for a random adult tube site to get .50 cpm TOTAL per page views is good these days, so even the ones that get 1m a day well monetized and well positioned would make only 10k a month. The genius who can do that would probably have all sorts of other monetization tricks that mere mortals can't duplicate.

Isn't your math way off? 10 page views per unique is $150k per month or am I reading this wrong?

3om3 10-26-2013 07:22 PM

2k amanth
will be good

Crazy Enough 10-26-2013 10:06 PM

pirate tube or legal tube?

lol

I guess most of them are pirates. They are their own pirates.

whOaKemosabe 10-26-2013 11:03 PM

i like earning nothing with my tubes

dillfly2000 10-26-2013 11:28 PM


JockoHomo 10-26-2013 11:32 PM

Enough for a 2 liter diet Pepsi and a refill of my Xanax script so around $11

ilnjscb 10-27-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19849397)
Isn't your math way off? 10 page views per unique is $150k per month or am I reading this wrong?

I said TOTAL per page views with an "s" you're right I should have clarified by saying for all views per unique. Most sites don't monetize every view in adult. Apparently - I don't have a tube and I'm just regurgitating what I read here - CPM is VERY hard to sell in adult. CPC is better, but from what these guys say hardly anyone does click thru.

slapass 10-27-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19849817)
I said TOTAL per page views with an "s" you're right I should have clarified by saying for all views per unique. Most sites don't monetize every view in adult. Apparently - I don't have a tube and I'm just regurgitating what I read here - CPM is VERY hard to sell in adult. CPC is better, but from what these guys say hardly anyone does click thru.

Do you agree with my math? I am always curious as to how much the big tubes make. Multiple ads per page etc change the number quite a bit.

beerptrol 10-27-2013 09:40 AM

You're suppose to earn from a tube site!? I thought it was all about giving free porn to the surfers

seeandsee 10-27-2013 09:59 AM

I want to earn billions

ilnjscb 10-27-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19849821)
Do you agree with my math? I am always curious as to how much the big tubes make. Multiple ads per page etc change the number quite a bit.

Yeah but I think even the best ones monetize at .37 CPM or less per page view. Click thrus sell at .01 to .05 and are perhaps 2% so even good geo traffic is worth perhaps .40CPM.

With popunders the top sites might gross $100 - 150k/m. I am not talking about XVID or XHAM etc. Those guys all negotiate their own ads and have special deals. They also have characters who calculate exactly what is best to do with their traffic.

That much traffic is really hard to get though. 30m/m uniques there are just a few who can do that.

The Porn Nerd 10-27-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19849868)
Yeah but I think even the best ones monetize at .37 CPM or less per page view. Click thrus sell at .01 to .05 and are perhaps 2% so even good geo traffic is worth perhaps .40CPM.

With popunders the top sites might gross $100 - 150k/m. I am not talking about XVID or XHAM etc. Those guys all negotiate their own ads and have special deals. They also have characters who calculate exactly what is best to do with their traffic.

That much traffic is really hard to get though. 30m/m uniques there are just a few who can do that.

But what you said earlier holds true today: try going from ZERO to 1 million daily views and see if A. it can even be done and B. How long would it take to achieve this? How much in terms of traffic buys, etc?

Seems like an impossible task to me (which is why I'm not doing it). Try opening up a Wal-Mart today.

ilnjscb 10-27-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 19849926)
But what you said earlier holds true today: try going from ZERO to 1 million daily views and see if A. it can even be done and B. How long would it take to achieve this? How much in terms of traffic buys, etc?

Seems like an impossible task to me (which is why I'm not doing it). Try opening up a Wal-Mart today.

Exactly.

madeofmoney 10-27-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 19849926)
But what you said earlier holds true today: try going from ZERO to 1 million daily views and see if A. it can even be done and B. How long would it take to achieve this? How much in terms of traffic buys, etc?

Seems like an impossible task to me (which is why I'm not doing it). Try opening up a Wal-Mart today.

Imagine if Walmart stole all its products and gave them away for free only selling parking spots and cooking oil. There would be plenty of other chain stores going out of business and life is good... Until the products Walmart gave away stopped coming in because they were broke from theft. It will happen in adult...guarenteed.

ilnjscb 10-29-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by madeofmoney (Post 19850281)
Imagine if Walmart stole all its products and gave them away for free only selling parking spots and cooking oil. There would be plenty of other chain stores going out of business and life is good... Until the products Walmart gave away stopped coming in because they were broke from theft. It will happen in adult...guarenteed.

Yeah - but there is YEARS of content out there. And then the pro-am and am stuff. Each large tube may have 4 million clips.

The point is, even at extremely low CPM or CPC or even signup, some money can still be made. If it is 1/50th of what used to happen, it is still 100s of millions annually for a few people.

Like the gold rush, like the oil rush, at first it is small guys, then, inevitably, the big boys find a way in and lock it all off, generally by reducing the ability of the small guys to compete.

Ross 10-29-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19849168)
According to what I read here, for a random adult tube site to get .50 cpm TOTAL per page views is good these days, so even the ones that get 1m a day well monetized and well positioned would make only 10k a month. The genius who can do that would probably have all sorts of other monetization tricks that mere mortals can't duplicate.

Anyone with a 1 million unique per day tube site making $10,000 per month, email me, we'll buy it from you today!

ilnjscb 10-29-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 19852035)
Anyone with a 1 million unique per day tube site making $10,000 per month, email me, we'll buy it from you today!

See what I mean? These guys know how to spin gold and they proooooooobably won't tell us how :-)

Paul 10-29-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeofmoney (Post 19850281)
Imagine if Walmart stole all its products and gave them away for free only selling parking spots and cooking oil. There would be plenty of other chain stores going out of business and life is good... Until the products Walmart gave away stopped coming in because they were broke from theft. It will happen in adult...guarenteed.

Manwin are the Walmart of porn, the goal is simple - Putting their competition out of business.

They focus on growth, if you focus on that and only that then you keep getting bigger and bigger, you end up as number 1.

Of coarse the consequence is a much lower profit margin - That's what we've seen over the past 5 years, the devaluation of porn

The money/traffic is being controlled by fewer & fewer companies, if you're one of those companies left standing with a large % of the traffic. Well the simple fact is you've won :pimp

The whole thing is a numbers game :2 cents:

Walmark & Amazon and every big multi nation have the same goals, offer the product as cheap as possible so your competition can't compete which puts them out of business.

As much as I love the internet and all it has to offer, the entire internet is a race to the bottom. ANYTHING that isn't a physical product can be reduced in value to practically nothing.

Local Online Advert - Craigslist & Gumtree destroyed offline Buy & Sell advertising
Online News - Destroyed offline sales
Google Maps Navigation - Destroyed Sat Nav sales

And now the most recent one, Apples Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks is going to be offered for FREE.

The list is endless!

Paul 10-29-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19852017)
Like the gold rush, like the oil rush, at first it is small guys, then, inevitably, the big boys find a way in and lock it all off, generally by reducing the ability of the small guys to compete.

Well said! :thumbsup

Paul 10-29-2013 09:41 AM

Here's the main thing I don't understand about Manwin,

MyDirtyHobby - This site does great with the micro payments, it makes a lot of money and there a lots of sites like it that have ditched the subscription paysite model and focus on letting the customer buy exactly what they want to purchase. And a % spend a LOT more than your typical $29.99 subscription.

Some of those sites make an absolute fortune!

Why would you not implement this business model/setup on your adult tube network that has literally 10s of thousands of Amateurs who are uploading their clips for free and a lot of them have loyal and growing fan bases.

Perhaps someone here can explain this to me :)


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