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pimpmaster9000 · 10-29-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte

So what's your point? I am not my government. I voted.

But you must realize that people like Obama are transient. They come they go. The people with names no one knows that are entrenched for years in government are the ones that really are the powerbase.

I never held you responsible for the actions of your government. Americans equate a (verbal) attack on their government as an attack on their country in general or as a personal attack. Same goes for the army.

I was specific in my post "the US government is almost impossible to insult"

Barry-xlovecam · 10-29-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Might not even be wise to post about it.

Exactly my point, that it may be taken out of context by some idiot snooping ...

Minte · 10-29-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Exactly my point, that it may be taken out of context by some idiot snooping ...

If I suddenly stop posting you can assume you were correct.

_Richard_ · 10-29-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Might not even be wise to post about it.

considering the way the law is set up? he's communicating about all those things, with foreigners.

klinton · 10-29-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

we dont have a government

if we pick the wrong guys US gov democratically bomb us, so we have the guys your government supports

technically speaking its the remote US corporate government acting like they are our government

...as are the governments of the surrounding regions...US installed...

its nice to actually have your own government like germany or russia...

i'm sure for 95 % that you are from Former Yugoslavia (but not Macedonia) ? ;-)

am I right ;-) ?

pimpmaster9000 · 10-29-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

i'm sure for 95 % that you are from Former Yugoslavia (but not Macedonia) ? ;-)

am I right ;-) ?

yup...3 US installed governments one next to the other

klinton · 10-29-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

yup...3 US installed governments one next to the other

TheSquealer · 10-29-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

this isn't a step in the right direction, it's where i've been all along.

sure whistleblowing is a reason and obviously nothing good other than the reveal itself is coming from it

and that is exactly my point about why snowden is not a hero. he didn't do anything great, he didn't do anything brave. nothing good is resulting from what he did. no one is better off now. and even more importantly, several things are worse.

Lots of good came from it in some peoples eyes apparently. There was some feigned outrage from foreign leaders who are embarrassed to be publicly outed that they can't provide their head of state with a secure phone. This is then all followed with some feel good meetings of heads of state to continue to express feigned outrage to appease their voters. There will be some fake governmental policy reviews. There will likely be some new toothless laws which are most often worded in such a way that nothing really changes. There will be agency policy changes where the new policies will really just be the old policies as all laws pertaining to intelligence are filled with countless exceptions and caveats.

And... all the naive idiots of the world will get to say "see, things are different now" as their own government and foreign governments continue to monitor their phone calls, emails, text messages and other various digital communications... so they'll be happy and docile for another 5-10 years willfully ignoring the blatantly obvious truths of intelligence gathering and all allied governments cooperation in the very same things they claim to be outraged about.

We are in the middle of the second decade of common knowledge the USA and certain cooperating nations are monitoring all digital communications... but this won't slow any of the morons down from pretending to be outraged in 10 years when the subject comes up again.

Pretending to be upset at this or pretending anything is changed is a bit like giving the homeless junkie at the intersection $10.00. Its a feel good move that is quite literally the most selfish, self serving and obviously ineffectual gesture that allows them to get through the rest of the day patting themselves on the back saying 'see, i care' - as the junkie then takes that $10.00 to go OD on black tar heroin. That is the voting public.

Barry-xlovecam · 10-29-2013, 01:59 PM

I guess good honest police work -- investigations of suspects and getting warrants is fantasy land.

Where can I buy US Constitution print toilet paper so I can wipe my ass with the US Constitution when taking a "constitutional?" just like the NSA does ...

adendreams · 10-29-2013, 02:15 PM

there are now full blown press conferences with Obama about NSA spying and the White House is in full retreat- talking about limitations, transparancy, etc... Thanks Snowden.

He was programmed by his father from childhood to be an anti-gov nut job and his motives were all out espionage from the beginning...but hey he made the big sacrifice and we are all reaping benefits from it now.

Thanks man - sorry you have to live under hard core iron curtain surveilance now for the rest of your life (I'm sure he's under video now when he wipes his ass)...

Bummer but I bet you will end up hating Russian Gov far more than you ever did the US.

adendreams · 10-29-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

If you are an American and have a pulse, being snooped on is common knowledge. J Edgar Hoover had massive amounts of information on many thousands of people 50 years ago.
If you file a tax return, you have given the IRS a roadmap of your life. If you have children in public schools. The list of info gathering is enormous.

The only way around it would be to live by yourself in a cabin in the hills of Montana.

fun snapshot into the mind of a right winger - HEY ITS OK..NOTHING NEW HERE..BIG BROTHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN WATCHING - ITS UNAVOIDABLE - JUST ACCEPT YOUR FATE YOU CANT CHANGE ANYTHING hahaha dumbass

Pigshit
(sorry King but thats a damn good word)

SlammedMedia · 10-29-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by winter_

betrayed his country

you lost me there.

Minte · 10-29-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams

fun snapshot into the mind of a right winger - HEY ITS OK..NOTHING NEW HERE..BIG BROTHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN WATCHING - ITS UNAVOIDABLE - JUST ACCEPT YOUR FATE YOU CANT CHANGE ANYTHING hahaha dumbass

Pigshit
(sorry King but thats a damn good word)

Another idiot loser who is going to change the world. So tell us, photographer. how are you going to do that?

dyna mo · 10-29-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Lots of good came from it in some peoples eyes apparently. There was some feigned outrage from foreign leaders who are embarrassed to be publicly outed that they can't provide their head of state with a secure phone. This is then all followed with some feel good meetings of heads of state to continue to express feigned outrage to appease their voters. There will be some fake governmental policy reviews. There will likely be some new toothless laws which are most often worded in such a way that nothing really changes. There will be agency policy changes where the new policies will really just be the old policies as all laws pertaining to intelligence are filled with countless exceptions and caveats.

And... all the naive idiots of the world will get to say "see, things are different now" as their own government and foreign governments continue to monitor their phone calls, emails, text messages and other various digital communications... so they'll be happy and docile for another 5-10 years willfully ignoring the blatantly obvious truths of intelligence gathering and all allied governments cooperation in the very same things they claim to be outraged about.

We are in the middle of the second decade of common knowledge the USA and certain cooperating nations are monitoring all digital communications... but this won't slow any of the morons down from pretending to be outraged in 10 years when the subject comes up again.

Pretending to be upset at this or pretending anything is changed is a bit like giving the homeless junkie at the intersection $10.00. Its a feel good move that is quite literally the most selfish, self serving and obviously ineffectual gesture that allows them to get through the rest of the day patting themselves on the back saying 'see, i care' - as the junkie then takes that $10.00 to go OD on black tar heroin. That is the voting public.

boom goes the dynamite.

i think i missed the intent of your previous post!

_Richard_ · 10-29-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams

fun snapshot into the mind of a right winger - HEY ITS OK..NOTHING NEW HERE..BIG BROTHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN WATCHING - ITS UNAVOIDABLE - JUST ACCEPT YOUR FATE YOU CANT CHANGE ANYTHING hahaha dumbass

Pigshit
(sorry King but thats a damn good word)

don't bring up the bee hive colony collapse

or he'll lose his knickers and follow you around for years to come

10-29-2013, 01:59 PM	#159
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I guess good honest police work -- investigations of suspects and getting warrants is fantasy land. Where can I buy US Constitution print toilet paper so I can wipe my ass with the US Constitution when taking a "constitutional?" just like the NSA does ...

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adendreams Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LA and Florida Posts: 1,887	there are now full blown press conferences with Obama about NSA spying and the White House is in full retreat- talking about limitations, transparancy, etc... Thanks Snowden. He was programmed by his father from childhood to be an anti-gov nut job and his motives were all out espionage from the beginning...but hey he made the big sacrifice and we are all reaping benefits from it now. Thanks man - sorry you have to live under hard core iron curtain surveilance now for the rest of your life (I'm sure he's under video now when he wipes his ass)... Bummer but I bet you will end up hating Russian Gov far more than you ever did the US. __________________ Aden - Your Content Shooter Superfreak ADEN CONTENT · HD Video · Ex-GF · Am Content · Pro Content · PHP Programming · Package Deals • Skype or ICQ available on request • Last edited by adendreams; 10-29-2013 at 02:18 PM..