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JohnnyNight 10-24-2013 08:01 AM
Snowden is a freakin pervert..

He must be in Russia wackin off every time he releases some supposed secret about spying, which every country does..

I wonder when this idiot is going say something about Green Peace being charged with piracy and all the things they do to people who oppose putin..

ThunderBalls 10-24-2013 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846274)
germany had to react to the news, what are they going to do, ignore it and looks like they don't care?

of course not, the news came out and they had to act outraged, regardless of everyone spying on everyone.

they are prolly actually more pissed about the usa getting caught doing it.

Christ you're fucking retarded.

MaDalton 10-24-2013 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846359)
then why do we loan you nuclear weapons? we can't loan a country like germany nukes and then walk away.
now welcome to the 1970ties/1980ties - we're getting closer

i remember from my childhood how hundreds of thousands of people went on the streets to demonstrate against nuclear weapons (Pershing 2) that the US wanted to station in Germany against Russia

but we have 2013 and according to Wikipedia there's only one place left where nuclear weapons are stored (thanks to Wikileaks we know about that now) and even those are supposed to be returned soon.

and lets not forget - the US and Germany are NATO allies - not opponents

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846366)
Christ you're fucking retarded.
oh, look a gfyer lacking the balls to post an opinion on the topic, just a drive-by 3rd grader quip on an opine.

of course, we all know by now this is the best you can do so no one actually expects you to have the balls required to participate in a discussion.

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19846367)
now welcome to the 1970ties/1980ties - we're getting closer

i remember from my childhood how hundreds of thousands of people went on the streets to demonstrate against nuclear weapons (Pershing 2) that the US wanted to station in Germany against Russia

but we have 2013 and according to Wikipedia there's only one place left where nuclear weapons are stored (thanks to Wikileaks we know about that now) and even those are supposed to be returned soon.

and lets not forget - the US and Germany are NATO allies - not opponents
i got a lot closer with the post i made above re: euro defense spending and nato, illustrating the lack of germany resources spent on defense, not even the required 2%. and also the lack of ability in the libya crisis.

not saying we don't have interests we are interesting in protecting over there, but the fact is the fact, europe can't defend itself by itself.

ThunderBalls 10-24-2013 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846370)
oh, look a gfyer lacking the balls to post an opinion on the topic, just a drive-by 3rd grader quip on an opine.

of course, we all know by now this is the best you can do so no one actually expects you to have the balls required to participate in a discussion.
Ever heard the term 'Never argue with a pig. It just frustrates you and irritates the pig'?

I have better things to do than to sit here for hours debating with someone that obviously has the mental capacity of a 10 year old.

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846374)
Ever heard the term 'Never argue with a pig. It just frustrates you and irritates the pig'?

I have better things to do than to sit here for hours debating with someone that obviously has the mental capacity of a 10 year old.
then why even make a 3rd grade drive-by no balls reply? oh i know why, because you are a disphit.

obvious dipshit troll is obvious. you don't have time to debate, just time to be a dick.


says a lot.

_Richard_ 10-24-2013 08:12 AM
heard france was up in arms about it?

mikesouth 10-24-2013 08:13 AM
one nation
under surveillance

ThunderBalls 10-24-2013 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846378)
then why even make a 3rd grade drive-by no balls reply? oh i know why, because you are a disphit.

I call it as I see it. You mad? Gonna start crying?

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846383)
I call it as I see it. You mad? Gonna start crying?
lolz, already forgot about your big pig analogy and your lack of time?


fucking dipshit.

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:18 AM
waaa, i don't have time to actually debate a topic, only time to be a sackless dipshit drive-by troll.

oh wait, i have plenty of time to be a sackless troll.

hahahahahahaha

too fucking funny.

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:20 AM
gotta lol @ teh gfy. having a respectful dialogue with anothe gfy'er, a troll has to try and turn the thread into an opportunity to get attention for being a sackless wonder.

MaDalton 10-24-2013 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846373)
i got a lot closer with the post i made above re: euro defense spending and nato, illustrating the lack of germany resources spent on defense, not even the required 2%. and also the lack of ability in the libya crisis.

not saying we don't have interests we are interesting in protecting over there, but the fact is the fact, europe can't defend itself by itself.
2% required by whom?

and not bombing Libya was actually a political decision - like back in the day not assisting to attack Iraq. You see what happened to both countries after you bombed them into freedom...

and once again - defend us against whom?

I am not aware that we are in danger in any way.

Rochard 10-24-2013 08:22 AM
All countries do this. If you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.

Germany has the Bundesnachrichtendienst, which has three hundred locations in Germany and "other countries". If they aren't spying on other countries, why are they there?

ThunderBalls 10-24-2013 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846394)
gotta lol @ teh gfy. having a respectful dialogue with anothe gfy'er, a troll has to try and turn the thread into an opportunity to get attention for being a sackless wonder.

Oh lookie, I made the little right wing board whore blow a gasket.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846374)
I have better things to do than to sit here for hours debating with someone that obviously has the mental capacity of a 10 year old.
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846366)
blah blah
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846383)
waa waaa
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846409)
gibberish
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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19846409)
Oh lookie, I made the little right wing board whore blow a gasket.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

dyna mo 10-24-2013 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19846397)
2% required by whom?

and not bombing Libya was actually a political decision - like back in the day not assisting to attack Iraq. You see what happened to both countries after you bombed them into freedom...

and once again - defend us against whom?

I am not aware that we are in danger in any way.


you're surrounded by friendly democratic nations, of course you are mostly safe. again, it's not my policy, i mentioned earlier i have no idea who your boogie man is. if it's time to move on from ww2, i would agree, as i mentioned.

but as illustrated, the euro defense network is not up to par. not saying we should prop it up, maybe we should, i don't know. but if you don't want that help, i am comfortable enough with how far past ww2 we all are :winkwink: to clear out of there even more so than we have and let europeans deal with europe. i would vote for that in fact.

Barry-xlovecam 10-24-2013 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19846381)
one nation
under surveillance
Gawd, that is so close to the truth.

In the era of the 1960s and 1970s it was even worse. J. Edgar Hoover's FBI had all sorts of lists and illegal wiretaps domestically and god knows what the CIA was doing.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19846398)
All countries do this. If you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.

Germany has the Bundesnachrichtendienst, which has three hundred locations in Germany and "other countries". If they aren't spying on other countries, why are they there?
To think otherwise is naïve as hell ...


Snowden's revelations do not surprise me and will have little effect on national security or on national "spying" policy. The allegations just bring public attention to a very long term governmental policy of spying on people. (Long term like back to ancient times.) Tempest in a teapot really.

_Richard_ 10-24-2013 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19846416)
Gawd, that is so close to the truth.

In the era of the 1960s and 1970s it was even worse. J. Edgar Hoover's FBI had all sorts of lists and illegal wiretaps domestically and god knows what the CIA was doing.[/INDENT]
God knows, or the Cia, but we really need to find out

Joshua G 10-24-2013 08:49 AM
sadly, the military industrial complex has so much power, a mocha chocolate ivy league liberal POTUS is powerless to get it under control.

just wait til the pentagon starts producing killer robots!

sperbonzo 10-24-2013 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19846431)
sadly, the military industrial complex has so much power, a mocha chocolate ivy league liberal POTUS is powerless to get it under control.
You actually buy into the idea that he is trying to do anything to "get it under control"?????




:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



.

ilnjscb 10-24-2013 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19846431)
sadly, the military industrial complex has so much power, a mocha chocolate ivy league liberal POTUS is powerless to get it under control.

just wait til the pentagon starts producing killer robots!
Ummmm he is not powerless at all.

MaDalton 10-24-2013 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19846398)
All countries do this. If you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.

Germany has the Bundesnachrichtendienst, which has three hundred locations in Germany and "other countries". If they aren't spying on other countries, why are they there?
you know - comments like this really drive me nuts

of course every country has their own intelligence, it's not a secret

but they do not wiretap Obamas phone and in return we do expect he doesnt wiretap Angies phone

because they are allies

_Richard_ 10-24-2013 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19846457)
you know - comments like this really drive me nuts

of course every country has their own intelligence, it's not a secret

but they do not wiretap Obamas phone and in return we do expect he doesnt wiretap Angies phone

because they are allies
but but!

'keep your enemies close.. '

Joshua G 10-24-2013 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19846436)
You actually buy into the idea that he is trying to do anything to "get it under control"?????




:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



.
well...no i understand he's not doing anything. its just that one would expect a generic liberal would be someone who may try to cut the defense budget as opposed to a generic republican. But there is no difference in the parties anymore. obama = bush.

dyna mo 10-24-2013 09:12 AM
i'm concerned now about german defenses. if they can let a wiretap through to the chancellor's cell phone, maybe we should have a bigger presence over there.


hahahahahahaha

i keed!

fuck you thundernoballs.

slapass 10-24-2013 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846373)
i got a lot closer with the post i made above re: euro defense spending and nato, illustrating the lack of germany resources spent on defense, not even the required 2%. and also the lack of ability in the libya crisis.

not saying we don't have interests we are interesting in protecting over there, but the fact is the fact, europe can't defend itself by itself.
They probably can. And it is odd as fuck that we feel any need to do it for them at this point. We should drop our spending to 2% of GDP and get out of our debt isssue in a decade.

Joshua G 10-24-2013 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19846456)
Ummmm he is not powerless at all.
well that would be far worse. at least if he were powerless he could pass the buck to his secdef. But what your suggesting is that he has the power to stop the NSA & chooses not to.

:Oh crap

sperbonzo 10-24-2013 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19846479)
well that would be far worse. at least if he were powerless he could pass the buck to his secdef. But what your suggesting is that he has the power to stop the NSA & chooses not to.

:Oh crap
Not only does he not choose to do anything to stop it, he has actively increased it's power, scope and activities.....





.:2 cents:

dyna mo 10-24-2013 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19846476)
They probably can. And it is odd as fuck that we feel any need to do it for them at this point. We should drop our spending to 2% of GDP and get out of our debt isssue in a decade.
i would think you are right.

unfortunately, it's one of the few things i am unoptimistic about. a defense needs an enemy. our military industrial complex will make sure there always will be 1+

dyna mo 10-24-2013 09:30 AM
a great example of that for me is the cold war. when we had big bad russia as an enemy we had zero terrorist enemies. none.

cold war ends and we instantly have terrorist enemies and a lot of em.

Joshua G 10-24-2013 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846498)
a great example of that for me is the cold war. when we had big bad russia as an enemy we had zero terrorist enemies. none.

cold war ends and we instantly have terrorist enemies and a lot of em.
this is not correct.

there was the 1982 bombing of marines in beirut.

there was libya & quadaffi, who bombed US citizens in nightclubs until reagan responded.

then there was the lockerbee bombing, which was revenge for the US blasting an iranian jetliner out of the sky a year earlier.

pornguy 10-24-2013 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19846207)
i don't think that's the point - the point is that Germany is besides the UK and France the biggest NATO ally and you usually don't spy at least on the head of governments of your closest friends
Keep your friends close and trust no one.

:)

dyna mo 10-24-2013 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19846517)
this is not correct.

there was the 1982 bombing of marines in beirut.

there was libya & quadaffi, who bombed US citizens in nightclubs until reagan responded.

then there was the lockerbee bombing, which was revenge for the US blasting an iranian jetliner out of the sky a year earlier.
sure, you can point to a few examples of foreign terrorism but that's not what i was talking about.

again, i am saying the cold war ended and the military industrial complex needed an enemy to replace russia, terrorism was that enemy.

it's extremely well documented.

Rochard 10-24-2013 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19846457)
you know - comments like this really drive me nuts

of course every country has their own intelligence, it's not a secret

but they do not wiretap Obamas phone and in return we do expect he doesnt wiretap Angies phone

because they are allies
They don't?

I am willing to bet that Germany tries to read all US diplomatic traffic every chance they get; It's in their best interests to do so. Every government is most interested in knowing the position of other governments on a large variety of issues and political matters.

The difference is all countries have the desire, but not all countries have the ability.

Joshua G 10-24-2013 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19846525)
sure, you can point to a few examples of foreign terrorism but that's not what i was talking about.

again, i am saying the cold war ended and the military industrial complex needed an enemy to replace russia, terrorism was that enemy.

it's extremely well documented.
bro, you said there were "zero terrorist enemies. none." perhaps you did not articulate your point adequately.

in any case, the complex did a horrible job identifying terror as the enemy to replace russia. osama declared war on USA in 1998. blew up the USS cole. the complex shrugged. wasnt until 911 & a plane was flown right up its ass did the pentagon care about al qaedas.

the big enemy after the cold war was gonna be china if you recall. The complex was flying planes into china & we had to apologize when one of our planes landed in china.

sandman! 10-24-2013 10:18 AM
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Relentless 10-24-2013 10:23 AM
I'm strongly against the NSA prism program... That being said... does anyone think that was the start of nations trying to spy on each other? If you think Germany never tried to tap Obama's phone... you are naieve at best.

Spying on other nations... is what the entire CIA is supposed to do. Spying on our own citizens without due process is not what any governmental agency is supposed to do.

Barry-xlovecam 10-24-2013 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19846556)
[S]pying on other nations... is what the entire CIA is supposed to do. Spying on our own citizens without due process is not what any governmental agency is supposed to do.
That is what FISA Court is supposed to be for (but 'secret courts' are generally corrupt, point in case). Snowden showed that they are bypassed or are simply lay-downs issuing blanket warrants. So, the FISA law means little to the NSA. That part has to change.


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