Websitebilling (WSB) thing. What you are going to do? - GoFuckYourself.com

e-god · 03-02-2003, 02:44 PM

hi ppl,

What you are going to do against them?
Or we should wait a bit more?
And what the fuck is going on? They are realy dieing or what, or just bank problems.

Mike if you are reading this please reply.

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-02-2003, 02:57 PM

Wait a bit more.

Im giving it till the 7th. No checks by then and I take legal action against WSB and the sponsor I promoted for.

Ray

EscortBiz · 03-02-2003, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Wait a bit more.

Im giving it till the 7th. No checks by then and I take legal action against WSB and the sponsor I promoted for.

Ray

Did the sponsor you promoted get paid?

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-02-2003, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Did the sponsor you promoted get paid?

I dont want to sound like an ass but, thats really not my concern. When I signed up to the proggy nowhere in the TOS did it say "we will pay you only if our processor pays us. Nowhere did it say, "if we get fucked , so do you"

It did however say "Payments are mailed each week. There is a minimum check amount before a partner will receive a check. The partners will receive a check once their total equals or exceeds the amount of $25.00.

Checks are mailed out to partners once a week on Wednesdays. The pay periods are from Monday thru Sunday of each week. There is also a one-week delay in sending partner checks to them."

What do you think if one of the big boys like Nasty or Topbucks Lose a processor would do? They would have paid us in any fucking event, any event.

This is the second time in 4 months I have to deal with bullshit like this. In december I was issued $2500 of bounced checks and $2000 of late checks. That matter has now been fixed.

New problem: I have not been paid for 371 sign ups and I want my fucking money, weather it be from WSB or my sponsor.

Im sorry if I sound upset, thats because I am. I fucking am. Maybe now being called a "shit disturber" can be justified.

amen
Ray

p00p · 03-02-2003, 04:20 PM

Ray, you have every right to be pissed off. Who is the sponsor that stole from you?

oscer · 03-02-2003, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray

I dont want to sound like an ass but, thats really not my concern. When I signed up to the proggy nowhere in the TOS did it say "we will pay you only if our processor pays us. Nowhere did it say, "if we get fucked , so do you"

It did however say "Payments are mailed each week. There is a minimum check amount before a partner will receive a check. The partners will receive a check once their total equals or exceeds the amount of $25.00.

Checks are mailed out to partners once a week on Wednesdays. The pay periods are from Monday thru Sunday of each week. There is also a one-week delay in sending partner checks to them."

What do you think if one of the big boys like Nasty or Topbucks Lose a processor would do? They would have paid us in any fucking event, any event.

This is the second time in 4 months I have to deal with bullshit like this. In december I was issued $2500 of bounced checks and $2000 of late checks. That matter has now been fixed.

New problem: I have not been paid for 371 sign ups and I want my fucking money, weather it be from WSB or my sponsor.

Im sorry if I sound upset, thats because I am. I fucking am. Maybe now being called a "shit disturber" can be justified.

amen
Ray

While your At it Get me my Money from them too

Mutt · 03-02-2003, 04:38 PM

Ray is right I think. Revshare doesn't mean 'if everything goes right with our processor and we get our money we'll split it with you 50/50'. It means you get 50% of the money generated by your traffic. Whether the check is sent out by the third party processor or not doesn't matter. Unless somewhere in their terms and conditions they've included some other language which explicitly says 'we only pay out commissions from monies received from Website Billing'.

I think others will reply on this thread that the affiliates assume the same risk as the program operator when they sign on as a 'partner'.

It would be an interesting legal case. Any armchair lawyers wanna speculate how a judge would decide a case like this?

EscortBiz · 03-02-2003, 04:43 PM

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Mr.Fiction · 03-02-2003, 04:43 PM

What does the affiliate agreement say on these issues?

cash69 · 03-02-2003, 04:47 PM

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Ray@TastyDollars · 03-02-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p
Ray, you have every right to be pissed off. Who is the sponsor that stole from you?

I assume you mean the bounced checks. I cant say who, reasons being 1- I gave them my word I would not say anything, and 2- apparently it was a banking error.

Too much fucking bullshit latley. In 4 months I had to contact my lawyers 4 times. Fucking 4 times! Bad checks, late checks, stolen content, hotlinking. Its turning to shit boys.

Ray

p00p · 03-02-2003, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray

I assume you mean the bounced checks. I cant say who, reasons being 1- I gave them my word I would not say anything, and 2- apparently it was a banking error.

Too much fucking bullshit latley. In 4 months I had to contact my lawyers 4 times. Fucking 4 times! Bad checks, late checks, stolen content, hotlinking. Its turning to shit boys.

Ray

This is what I was referring to
"New problem: I have not been paid for 371 sign ups and I want my fucking money, weather it be from WSB or my sponsor. "

That is a lot of coin. Can't your sponsor afford to pay you? Or are you hoping WSB gets back in biz? Remember DMR?

Shoplifter · 03-02-2003, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Wait a bit more.

Im giving it till the 7th. No checks by then and I take legal action against WSB and the sponsor I promoted for.

Ray

I'm waiting until the 15th which is 30 days late. I'll do a letter of demand and then if that goes nowhere I will get it enforced in court here. I believe that I am entitled to the current lost amounts and also a portion of future lost income.

Generally everyone expects to be ripped off and does nothing about it. But in the past 6 months I (and a few others it seems) have had their asses kicked so many times it's just not tolerable any more.

I am fucking furious about this...More so about the BS and total lack of any binding guidance on this issue than the money.

Scootermuze · 03-02-2003, 07:12 PM

Processors fall within the same laws as any other company or indiviual. If they owe money, then they are obligated to pay it.. If they are late paying it, then penalties and interest can be applied. These are non-contractual laws.. meaning that you don't have to have a contract that specifies such.

Don't be afraid to haul their ass into court to get your money.

But.. WSB promised to pay by this past Friday. Give the mail a few days to get there, then react accordingly.

Jumpin up & down on the boards won't do a thing to help.. Either take action or walk away..

Sausage · 03-03-2003, 01:09 AM

Know of any collection agencies who collect for Overseas clients? From Australia it's just not worth the hassle of legal action for only a few thousand dollars, but I want the money owed.

Do they have debt collection agencies which work for a %fee over there in the US (UK???). Just interested, because this is getting beyond a joke.

S.

03-02-2003, 02:44 PM	#1
e-god Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BabeLand Posts: 1,736	Websitebilling (WSB) thing. What you are going to do? hi ppl, What you are going to do against them? Or we should wait a bit more? And what the fuck is going on? They are realy dieing or what, or just bank problems. Mike if you are reading this please reply.

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Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Wait a bit more. Im giving it till the 7th. No checks by then and I take legal action against WSB and the sponsor I promoted for. Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

03-02-2003, 04:38 PM	#7
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Ray is right I think. Revshare doesn't mean 'if everything goes right with our processor and we get our money we'll split it with you 50/50'. It means you get 50% of the money generated by your traffic. Whether the check is sent out by the third party processor or not doesn't matter. Unless somewhere in their terms and conditions they've included some other language which explicitly says 'we only pay out commissions from monies received from Website Billing'. I think others will reply on this thread that the affiliates assume the same risk as the program operator when they sign on as a 'partner'. It would be an interesting legal case. Any armchair lawyers wanna speculate how a judge would decide a case like this? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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03-03-2003, 01:09 AM	#15
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Know of any collection agencies who collect for Overseas clients? From Australia it's just not worth the hassle of legal action for only a few thousand dollars, but I want the money owed. Do they have debt collection agencies which work for a %fee over there in the US (UK???). Just interested, because this is getting beyond a joke. S. __________________ IW Skype : blance8888 Icq : 15567120

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p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	Ray, you have every right to be pissed off. Who is the sponsor that stole from you?

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	What does the affiliate agreement say on these issues?

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cash69 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chandler, az Posts: 1,052	fuck that... you should try promoting my sites... i usually do per sign up.. but if you want rev i'll give you 80 / 20 rev share... login straight to epoch to check your stats... icq me at 116337464

03-02-2003, 07:12 PM	#14
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Processors fall within the same laws as any other company or indiviual. If they owe money, then they are obligated to pay it.. If they are late paying it, then penalties and interest can be applied. These are non-contractual laws.. meaning that you don't have to have a contract that specifies such. Don't be afraid to haul their ass into court to get your money. But.. WSB promised to pay by this past Friday. Give the mail a few days to get there, then react accordingly. Jumpin up & down on the boards won't do a thing to help.. Either take action or walk away..