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notjoe · 03-01-2003, 07:00 AM

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Hi.
I am writing this short letter to you because I saw a reference to candidhosting on your website. I want to give you this warning about these porn sleaze scumbags.

[EDIT: I have nothing good, nor bad about candidhosting anywhere. They're listed no where on any site i have.]

I called Russell Bruno about renting servers. I paid for four servers in advance . They took my money and did not provide the services paid for. THE SCAM;;;;; -> They are intentionally telling people they can host "anything" including the sending of mail. They then just take your money and shut the services within a few days. I tried to contact them to no avail.. This is a definite pattern and modus operandi. I was warned about this company and about Russell Bruno, sales manager, (too late) by others who had the same experience.. I hope this warning reaches you in time and I hope by this mail a few unsuspecting people are not victims of this scam like I was.
Thank You
Bill

res · 03-01-2003, 07:05 AM

Ok, but anyone answer me plz... Candidhosting is bad or good for long time business ?

Theo · 03-01-2003, 07:06 AM

PatrickM · 03-01-2003, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by res
Ok, but anyone answer me plz... Candidhosting is bad or good for long time business ?

Good of course

quiet · 03-01-2003, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by res
Ok, but anyone answer me plz... Candidhosting is bad or good for long time business ?

good. very good.

notjoe · 03-01-2003, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by res
Ok, but anyone answer me plz... Candidhosting is bad or good for long time business ?

I've never heard anything bad about candidhosting other than this email, so i would think that canadid hosting is pretty good.

I'm sure if they were doing what this guy has said then there would be much much more complaints about them

tellmeyes · 03-01-2003, 07:19 AM

they are pretty good, but have serious problem with backups. Candidhosting does not have automated back up system, and they are able to do your back ups only using manpower, what will cost you up to $200 per server for daily backup(as I was told by my sales rep). Not big deal, but if you compare it to others who makes backups for free you feel a little pissed off.

res · 03-01-2003, 07:24 AM

$200 per server for daily backup it's too many i think...

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 10:38 AM

on my candid emails i use my local isp's outgoing mail server. i can't send mail through their servers for some reason, i always thought it was weird because every other host i was with i could send through their servers no problem.

candid is a solid host. i would be very skeptical about that email. the guys an anon with a yahoo addy.

DarkBob · 03-01-2003, 10:54 AM

I've been with them for over a year, no problems here

rowan · 03-01-2003, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
on my candid emails i use my local isp's outgoing mail server. i can't send mail through their servers for some reason, i always thought it was weird because every other host i was with i could send through their servers no problem.

candid is a solid host. i would be very skeptical about that email. the guys an anon with a yahoo addy.

The IP of the web site in your profile is 64.159.89.124 - according to SPEWS this is listed:

http://www.spews.org/html/S339.html

However, I can't find your specific IP on that page, nor a blanket 64.159.89.* block. (?)

You may also want to browse:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...osting+%2Bspam

Note that I am not making any comment either way, they could be a great host and may have just had some abuse issues that were not handled very well. However, if you plan to send out emails then this is probably not the host for you.

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by rowan

The IP of the web site in your profile is 64.159.89.124 - according to SPEWS this is listed:

http://www.spews.org/html/S339.html

However, I can't find your specific IP on that page, nor a blanket 64.159.89.* block. (?)

You may also want to browse:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...osting+%2Bspam

Note that I am not making any comment either way, they could be a great host and may have just had some abuse issues that were not handled very well. However, if you plan to send out emails then this is probably not the host for you.

that spews url looks down. i don't really seem to have any problems with emails at candid.

funkmaster · 03-01-2003, 11:02 AM

candid are the best !!!

rooster · 03-01-2003, 11:02 AM

They seem to host at least one of the biggest yahoo chat spammers for several months.

rowan · 03-01-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

that spews url looks down. i don't really seem to have any problems with emails at candid.

But you just said you couldn't send email through your candid server!

I was offering a possible explanation why...

sneaker · 03-01-2003, 11:10 AM

Wow that is a pretty vicious spews report =)

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by rowan

But you just said you couldn't send email through your candid server! I was offering a possible explanation why...

i don't think i ever could. they told me i had to use my isp's outgoing. what would other people's spam have to do with me? unless their ip is blocked or something and they know my emails from their servers won't get to most places.

i don't really know much about email servers...

Interlude · 03-01-2003, 11:31 AM

Sounds like a load of crap, who is this guy?

psyko514 · 03-01-2003, 11:32 AM

some ISPs make you use their servers for SMTP, for example, Canada's Sympatico does.

rowan · 03-01-2003, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

i don't think i ever could. they told me i had to use my isp's outgoing. what would other people's spam have to do with me? unless their ip is blocked or something and they know my emails from their servers won't get to most places.

i don't really know much about email servers...

Colateral damage. If your IP (or web host) is listed in SPEWS or other similar block lists, your server will not be able to send email to any ISP that uses them - the mail will bounce. One of my servers is listed in SPEWS because (1) the host I'm on has a long history of spamming, and (2) someone sent out a large spam run which linked to some of my URLs. It was nothing to do with me - I never did find out who did it, or why.

In your case, perhaps it's a policy decision by candid. If you block ALL outbound email from client servers then that also includes spam.

SquarePants · 03-01-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by rowan

Colateral damage. If your IP (or web host) is listed in SPEWS or other similar block lists, your server will not be able to send email to any ISP that uses them - the mail will bounce. One of my servers is listed in SPEWS because (1) the host I'm on has a long history of spamming, and (2) someone sent out a large spam run which linked to some of my URLs. It was nothing to do with me - I never did find out who did it, or why.

In your case, perhaps it's a policy decision by candid. If you block ALL outbound email from client servers then that also includes spam.

Some hosting providers won't allow SMTP on their boxes. No biggy really. Also some ISP's, Earthlink I think is one, won't let an account use an out of network SMTP like port 25.

cosis · 03-01-2003, 12:12 PM

what a load of shit - candid is solid, fuck off

Kimmykim · 03-01-2003, 01:11 PM

I would imagine they don't allow using their outbound mail server for authentication issues, this is a common setup...

SPEWS sucks as well. A bunch of pansy ass crybabies hiding behind a bogus domain name registration.

03-01-2003, 07:00 AM	#1
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Looks like candidhosting pissed off a spammer and is paying the price now :) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from CrashDummie (adsl-67-66-203-174.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [67.66.203.174]) by gateway.fasti.net (8.12.7/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h21DlEnD074232 for <[email protected]>; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:47:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from [email protected]) Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.10.03.02 (4) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:39:08 -0600 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: CandidHosting.com Rip Offs, Scumbags, Theives, Liars. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====_10465259488526=_" X-UIDL: =4""!Q,e!!o(""!1QJ!! The message: Hi. I am writing this short letter to you because I saw a reference to candidhosting on your website. I want to give you this warning about these porn sleaze scumbags. [EDIT: I have nothing good, nor bad about candidhosting anywhere. They're listed no where on any site i have.] I called Russell Bruno about renting servers. I paid for four servers in advance . They took my money and did not provide the services paid for. THE SCAM;;;;; -> They are intentionally telling people they can host "anything" including the sending of mail. They then just take your money and shut the services within a few days. I tried to contact them to no avail.. This is a definite pattern and modus operandi. I was warned about this company and about Russell Bruno, sales manager, (too late) by others who had the same experience.. I hope this warning reaches you in time and I hope by this mail a few unsuspecting people are not victims of this scam like I was. Thank You Bill

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03-01-2003, 07:05 AM	#2
res Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 1,118	Ok, but anyone answer me plz... Candidhosting is bad or good for long time business ?

03-01-2003, 07:06 AM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	good

03-01-2003, 07:19 AM	#7
tellmeyes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 55	they are pretty good, but have serious problem with backups. Candidhosting does not have automated back up system, and they are able to do your back ups only using manpower, what will cost you up to $200 per server for daily backup(as I was told by my sales rep). Not big deal, but if you compare it to others who makes backups for free you feel a little pissed off.

03-01-2003, 07:24 AM	#8
res Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 1,118	$200 per server for daily backup it's too many i think...

03-01-2003, 10:38 AM	#9
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	on my candid emails i use my local isp's outgoing mail server. i can't send mail through their servers for some reason, i always thought it was weird because every other host i was with i could send through their servers no problem. candid is a solid host. i would be very skeptical about that email. the guys an anon with a yahoo addy.

03-01-2003, 11:02 AM	#13
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	candid are the best !!!

03-01-2003, 11:02 AM	#14
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	They seem to host at least one of the biggest yahoo chat spammers for several months.

03-01-2003, 11:10 AM	#16
sneaker So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 251	Wow that is a pretty vicious spews report =)

03-01-2003, 11:31 AM	#18
Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	Sounds like a load of crap, who is this guy?

03-01-2003, 12:12 PM	#22
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,287	what a load of shit - candid is solid, fuck off

03-01-2003, 01:11 PM	#23
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I would imagine they don't allow using their outbound mail server for authentication issues, this is a common setup... SPEWS sucks as well. A bunch of pansy ass crybabies hiding behind a bogus domain name registration.