What domain software is better than Snapnames for protecting your domains? - GoFuckYourself.com

AmeliaG · 03-01-2003, 02:24 AM

I used to use snapnames to protect my most important domains, but the snap failed one time and they told me that there is domain speculator software which kicks their ass. So I am wondering what that software is and whether it can be used to protect your own domains.

DarkJedi · 03-01-2003, 02:30 AM

protect from who ?

AmeliaG · 03-01-2003, 02:44 AM

That is one funny sig!

I've got a lot of domains and I'd prefer not to spend the $$ to register them all for ten years, but I used to keep a snapnames on my own domains. Snapnames failed me, however, and they told me there is something better, but they did not tell me what it is.

chodadog · 03-01-2003, 05:00 AM

The safest method is to renew your domains. C'mon, it's really not that hard. Doesn't your registrar send you notification when a domain is about to expire?

Brujah · 03-01-2003, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by AmeliaG
I used to use snapnames to protect my most important domains, but the snap failed one time and they told me that there is domain speculator software which kicks their ass. So I am wondering what that software is and whether it can be used to protect your own domains.

The best way is to use a registrar that auto-renews.

Vendot · 03-01-2003, 06:55 AM

Sheesh....... just renew em.

Thats like placing a net at the base of the mountain cos you'd prefer to not use a parachute.

AmeliaG · 03-02-2003, 07:12 AM

Sheesh, somebody here must know the answer to this question.

Sometimes registrars with autorenew fail to renew. I have both bought and lost domains which had only just barely expired. I've had stuff registered with registrars who did not send renewal e-mails at all. I've had domains where the registrar might have sent them, but they refused to update my contact e-mails when my ISP was bought out. Some registrars will refuse to transfer some of your domains if you do a bulk transfer and it is easy to miss that you only got 18 out of 20 you input. I ended up paying off someone who bought a domain I owned the trademark for because it was cheaper than the arbitration thing and the guy basically made his living selling to people like me for under $900. I had the .net and the prior owner of the .com was in a different industry and also had a legit trademark, but netsol refused to release the domain for months and months and then this guy was able to beat my snapnames and constant checking and e-mail me within less than a day.

I also kept a snapnames on my most important domains until it did not work for me.

So, what do people use to beat a snapnames and can it be used to protect a domain important to you?

Theo · 03-02-2003, 07:17 AM

i still cant see logic behind the question....

gothweb · 03-02-2003, 07:18 AM

You may want to consider using a more secure registrar. The one I have been with (DirectNIC) has never had any trouble keeping me updated about renewing my domains. After all, they want the $15.

KRL · 03-02-2003, 07:21 AM

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AmeliaG · 03-02-2003, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
This program works great! Be sure to use the Mag Version 44

Most helpful answer yet. There is also the trusted Louisville Slugger for close-up work. Last time I had to ransom a domain from Korea though, darn it.

Seriously, though, I know the technology exists and somebody on this board must know what I'm talking about.

Given that I've gotten screwed on domain stuff dealing with netsol and pretty much everyone I know has had a problem with some registrar, I think having a second net just makes sense.

polish_aristocrat · 03-02-2003, 07:33 AM

expiring domains = corruption, fraud etc.

AmeliaG · 03-02-2003, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
expiring domains = corruption, fraud etc.

That is too true. I think it is weird that more people are not interested in all their options to protect themselves.

brutus · 03-02-2003, 07:40 AM

Get OpenSRS reseller account and you will be able to do whatever you want with your domains... you could set them all to autorenew & locked. This is the best way to manage huge number of domains. If you have only few, find some OpenSRS reseller and ask they to do this.

AdultNex · 03-02-2003, 08:19 AM

In addition, I would recommend going with GoDaddy's Private domain registration feature (https://registrar.godaddy.com/regist...rog_id=GoDaddy).

You can still grab the WHOIS, but it'll be harder for "amateur" domainists.

Brujah · 03-02-2003, 10:46 AM

The best solution is NOT to let the domain expire in the first place, which others have been saying.

How do you do that ? Combine a good registrar's auto-renew feature with something like WatchMyDomains from SoftNIK. http://www.softnik.com

So your registrar didn't auto-renew the domain for some odd reason ? Very unusual since this has never happened to me unless the name was not setup for auto-renew. ( Not so unusual if you use Network Solutions though, they're known for fucking up all the time ). If you run WatchMyDomains once now and then it'll show you the domains that are expiring soon. Renew them.

So lets assume it's too late now because you neglected to run WatchMyDomains AND the registrar didn't auto-renew, resulting in some freak coincidence of double failure. The name expired.

Your name is expired. The registrar will hold it anywhere from 1 to 45 days. Depends on the registrar, typical is 10 days with DirectNIC if I remember right or say 30 days with Enom or 45 with Network Solutions. ( examples ). What next ? The name will go into Redemption Grace Period for up to 30 days. So you've got practically another month or two to notice that it had expired. You can pay to renew your domain ANYTIME during that process.

Finally, all that time has passed and now your domain is pending deletion. Too late. You lost it. Especially if it's a really good name. If someone has a Snap on it, try another solution but realize that you still probably lost it. You had all that time to prepare for it, but didn't.

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AmeliaG · 03-02-2003, 12:55 PM

Hmm, this software looks interesting, but I know there is software which I could just enter my credit card info into it and have a really bulletproof safety net. Somebody on this board must know what that software is. I think I will look into the OpenSRS thing too. I didn't have enough domains to make that worthwhile last I checked it out, but I probably do now.

xxxinnovations · 03-02-2003, 12:58 PM

If you forget to renew your domain names, you could register ALL of your domain names in www.EXPIREFISH.com where it will pick up the domain immediately after it expires

Brujah · 03-02-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by AmeliaG
Hmm, this software looks interesting, but I know there is software which I could just enter my credit card info into it and have a really bulletproof safety net. Somebody on this board must know what that software is. I think I will look into the OpenSRS thing too. I didn't have enough domains to make that worthwhile last I checked it out, but I probably do now.

Amelia, I think we're misunderstanding your request.

You're asking for software or service like Snapnames, but better because you had a Snapnames Back-Order that failed. Is that right ?

If so, the answer is that there is no such thing. At this point, competition still exists between drop catching services. Sometimes Snapnames will get it. Sometimes custom expensive systems will get it ( UltSearch, BuyDomains, etc ). It's like someone wanting to use all the GothicSluts content, but can't. It's private and they don't let you have it. ;)

Preventive strategies are the easiest, and best way to avoid it getting to the point where it's too late and you have to compete with the drop catcher services.

Auto-Renew should have worked. Maybe a registrar that is more stable is the right answer.

Brujah · 03-02-2003, 01:07 PM

Btw, in my experience.. ExpireFish is the worst place to use.

You could try these Snapnames alternatives if you find yourself that far into the deletion process:

DropWizard.com
NameFox.com
NicGenie.com
NameWinner.com

03-01-2003, 02:24 AM	#1
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,568	What domain software is better than Snapnames for protecting your domains? I used to use snapnames to protect my most important domains, but the snap failed one time and they told me that there is domain speculator software which kicks their ass. So I am wondering what that software is and whether it can be used to protect your own domains. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

03-01-2003, 02:44 AM	#3
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,568	That is one funny sig! I've got a lot of domains and I'd prefer not to spend the $$ to register them all for ten years, but I used to keep a snapnames on my own domains. Snapnames failed me, however, and they told me there is something better, but they did not tell me what it is. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

03-01-2003, 06:55 AM	#6
Vendot Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,376	Sheesh....... just renew em. Thats like placing a net at the base of the mountain cos you'd prefer to not use a parachute. __________________ "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

03-02-2003, 07:12 AM	#7
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,568	Sheesh, somebody here must know the answer to this question. Sometimes registrars with autorenew fail to renew. I have both bought and lost domains which had only just barely expired. I've had stuff registered with registrars who did not send renewal e-mails at all. I've had domains where the registrar might have sent them, but they refused to update my contact e-mails when my ISP was bought out. Some registrars will refuse to transfer some of your domains if you do a bulk transfer and it is easy to miss that you only got 18 out of 20 you input. I ended up paying off someone who bought a domain I owned the trademark for because it was cheaper than the arbitration thing and the guy basically made his living selling to people like me for under $900. I had the .net and the prior owner of the .com was in a different industry and also had a legit trademark, but netsol refused to release the domain for months and months and then this guy was able to beat my snapnames and constant checking and e-mail me within less than a day. I also kept a snapnames on my most important domains until it did not work for me. So, what do people use to beat a snapnames and can it be used to protect a domain important to you? __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

03-02-2003, 07:18 AM	#9
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	You may want to consider using a more secure registrar. The one I have been with (DirectNIC) has never had any trouble keeping me updated about renewing my domains. After all, they want the $15. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

03-01-2003, 02:30 AM	#2
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	protect from who ?

03-01-2003, 05:00 AM	#4
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	The safest method is to renew your domains. C'mon, it's really not that hard. Doesn't your registrar send you notification when a domain is about to expire?

03-02-2003, 07:17 AM	#8
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i still cant see logic behind the question....

03-02-2003, 07:21 AM	#10
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	This program works great! Be sure to use the Mag Version 44 __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

03-02-2003, 07:33 AM	#12
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	expiring domains = corruption, fraud etc. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-02-2003, 07:40 AM	#14
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	Get OpenSRS reseller account and you will be able to do whatever you want with your domains... you could set them all to autorenew & locked. This is the best way to manage huge number of domains. If you have only few, find some OpenSRS reseller and ask they to do this.

03-02-2003, 08:19 AM	#15
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	In addition, I would recommend going with GoDaddy's Private domain registration feature (https://registrar.godaddy.com/regist...rog_id=GoDaddy). You can still grab the WHOIS, but it'll be harder for "amateur" domainists.

03-02-2003, 10:46 AM	#16
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	The best solution is NOT to let the domain expire in the first place, which others have been saying. How do you do that ? Combine a good registrar's auto-renew feature with something like WatchMyDomains from SoftNIK. http://www.softnik.com So your registrar didn't auto-renew the domain for some odd reason ? Very unusual since this has never happened to me unless the name was not setup for auto-renew. ( Not so unusual if you use Network Solutions though, they're known for fucking up all the time ). If you run WatchMyDomains once now and then it'll show you the domains that are expiring soon. Renew them. So lets assume it's too late now because you neglected to run WatchMyDomains AND the registrar didn't auto-renew, resulting in some freak coincidence of double failure. The name expired. Your name is expired. The registrar will hold it anywhere from 1 to 45 days. Depends on the registrar, typical is 10 days with DirectNIC if I remember right or say 30 days with Enom or 45 with Network Solutions. ( examples ). What next ? The name will go into Redemption Grace Period for up to 30 days. So you've got practically another month or two to notice that it had expired. You can pay to renew your domain ANYTIME during that process. Finally, all that time has passed and now your domain is pending deletion. Too late. You lost it. Especially if it's a really good name. If someone has a Snap on it, try another solution but realize that you still probably lost it. You had all that time to prepare for it, but didn't. http://www.clickmojo.com/more.php?id=92_0_1_0_M __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

03-02-2003, 12:55 PM	#17
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,568	Hmm, this software looks interesting, but I know there is software which I could just enter my credit card info into it and have a really bulletproof safety net. Somebody on this board must know what that software is. I think I will look into the OpenSRS thing too. I didn't have enough domains to make that worthwhile last I checked it out, but I probably do now. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

03-02-2003, 12:58 PM	#18
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03-02-2003, 01:07 PM	#20
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Btw, in my experience.. ExpireFish is the worst place to use. You could try these Snapnames alternatives if you find yourself that far into the deletion process: DropWizard.com NameFox.com NicGenie.com NameWinner.com __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com