Thief among us!

[sixpack]

We made a content deal with the guy who owns selfshotboys.com his affiliate site is dudescash.com for 100 twinks scenes at the cost of about $3000, we wired the money and on the day he received the wire he tells me that he decided not to sell and was refunding the wire. That was 3 weeks ago, he has since stop responding to emails or ICQ. The WHOIS and the wire info for the company all matched up for both the site and the program. We have a signed contract with him and his company, he sent us a bullshit wire receipt for the refund. I just wanted to make sure no one else get's screwed by this thief. Here is his info.

Grande Media Group Investments
Simone Fornara ([email protected])
+39.3487682216
Fax: +1.
Via G. Marconi
Gargallo, NO 28010
IT

[_Richard_]

hope you get ur money back

[Nicky]

That sucks

[Dirty F]

That's gay.

[Supz]

Another easy lesson to never pay for something fully upfront.

[96ukssob]

Sad thing is, unless they live k. The same country as you, your screed. You can call your bank and tell them it was FRAUD and to submit a reversal of funds. The key here is dont ask, TELL THEM! Go in, be polite but don't leave until you get what you want, otherwise you are just their bitch.

Originally Posted by Supz

Another easy lesson to never pay for something fully upfront.

Sad but true. I always use something like PayPal with a credit card or an escrow.com account. It's to easy to rip someone off.

[mavruda]

Originally Posted by Supz

Another easy lesson to never pay for something fully upfront.

Not cool either - half payment upfront would be the better option. /for "bigger" projects/.
There are two sides of the coin. The man who offers the service can be scammed too.
We know of gfy users who made people to do jobs for them and did not paid them.
And not even that - they even ruined the reputation of the same guy by "informing" Paypal that the guy is using his account to get paid for services within the area of adult biz....

[CaptainHowdy]

...

[sixpack]

There are 2 sides to every coin for sure, with him having an affiliate program and website using nats, epoch and all that you would think he would want to do thing above board. This is a first for me in all the years in the business so... I just hope this warning saves someone else from being taken by this scammer.

[TheAccountant]

Hello,
I've been warned regarding this thread from another guy. I'm really sorry about that situation but I've never done business personally with this user "sixpack".

We got some strange emails from him few days ago to our support email with something like "THIEF IN JAIL" and nothing. As you can understand it's impossible to know anything from an email like that. At frist we thought he was an affiliate but then we realized he wasn't.

Then we checked GFY and we found that the user sixpack was involved in a scam, double personalities and some weird post and behavior. So we came to the conclusion that he was the classic clueless guy with too much time in his hand.

As for the content, while it's true that we had some spare content for sale, we had some people selling them for me in change of a percentage. Since I don't know ANYTHING regarding this issue I suggest sixpack to send an email to [email protected] with ALL details regarding this issue so we can try at first to understand what's going on and then to try fix the things.

It seems to be a fraud both to me both to this user sixpack.

Thanks.

[mavruda]

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by simons

Hello,
I've been warned regarding this thread from another guy. I'm really sorry about that situation but I've never done business personally with this user "sixpack".

We got some strange emails from him few days ago to our support email with something like "THIEF IN JAIL" and nothing. As you can understand it's impossible to know anything from an email like that. At frist we thought he was an affiliate but then we realized he wasn't.

Then we checked GFY and we found that the user sixpack was involved in a scam, double personalities and some weird post and behavior. So we came to the conclusion that he was the classic clueless guy with too much time in his hand.

As for the content, while it's true that we had some spare content for sale, we had some people selling them for me in change of a percentage. Since I don't know ANYTHING regarding this issue I suggest sixpack to send an email to [email protected] with ALL details regarding this issue so we can try at first to understand what's going on and then to try fix the things.

It seems to be a fraud both to me both to this user sixpack.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by sixpack

We made a content deal with the guy who owns selfshotboys.com his affiliate site is dudescash.com for 100 twinks scenes at the cost of about $3000, we wired the money and on the day he received the wire he tells me that he decided not to sell and was refunding the wire. That was 3 weeks ago, he has since stop responding to emails or ICQ. The WHOIS and the wire info for the company all matched up for both the site and the program. We have a signed contract with him and his company, he sent us a bullshit wire receipt for the refund. I just wanted to make sure no one else get's screwed by this thief. Here is his info.

Grande Media Group Investments
Simone Fornara ([email protected])
+39.3487682216
Fax: +1.
Via G. Marconi
Gargallo, NO 28010
IT

Seems like you have some explaining to do...

[Imortyl Pussycat]

this just got even more interesting.......

[Supz]

Originally Posted by mavruda

Not cool either - half payment upfront would be the better option. /for "bigger" projects/.
There are two sides of the coin. The man who offers the service can be scammed too.
We know of gfy users who made people to do jobs for them and did not paid them.
And not even that - they even ruined the reputation of the same guy by "informing" Paypal that the guy is using his account to get paid for services within the area of adult biz....

Right, this is not a $50 deal. Pay a %, get a %, pay the difference get the difference.

This is pretty much standard in every other practice of business. Most normal business work on a Net30 term. You provide goods and it takes them 30 days to pay the invoice. This happens everyday. I would never send anyone 3k on good faith on this board, let alone in adult.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by sixpack

We made a content deal with the guy who owns selfshotboys.com his affiliate site is dudescash.com for 100 twinks scenes at the cost of about $3000, we wired the money and on the day he received the wire he tells me that he decided not to sell and was refunding the wire. That was 3 weeks ago, he has since stop responding to emails or ICQ. The WHOIS and the wire info for the company all matched up for both the site and the program. We have a signed contract with him and his company, he sent us a bullshit wire receipt for the refund. I just wanted to make sure no one else get's screwed by this thief. Here is his info.

Grande Media Group Investments
Simone Fornara ([email protected])
+39.3487682216
Fax: +1.
Via G. Marconi
Gargallo, NO 28010
IT

Sorry to hear that. He talked to me a little about that deal also. It just seemed too weird and rushed.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by simons

Hello,
I've been warned regarding this thread from another guy. I'm really sorry about that situation but I've never done business personally with this user "sixpack".

We got some strange emails from him few days ago to our support email with something like "THIEF IN JAIL" and nothing. As you can understand it's impossible to know anything from an email like that. At frist we thought he was an affiliate but then we realized he wasn't.

Then we checked GFY and we found that the user sixpack was involved in a scam, double personalities and some weird post and behavior. So we came to the conclusion that he was the classic clueless guy with too much time in his hand.

As for the content, while it's true that we had some spare content for sale, we had some people selling them for me in change of a percentage. Since I don't know ANYTHING regarding this issue I suggest sixpack to send an email to [email protected] with ALL details regarding this issue so we can try at first to understand what's going on and then to try fix the things.

It seems to be a fraud both to me both to this user sixpack.

Thanks.

Dam. So some one is posing as you mate?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by sixpack

We have a signed contract with him and his company, he sent us a bullshit wire receipt for the refund.

How was the receipt sent? If email address, what was it? That should likely track who sent the receipt.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

Dam. So some one is posing as you mate?

Simons was it YOU I spoke with or an imposter about a month ago ?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by sixpack

That was 3 weeks ago, he has since stop responding to emails or ICQ.

And is this the ICQ that stopped responding weeks ago?
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[JFK]

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

this just got even more interesting.......

Yup, as the stomach turns

[sixpack]

This gonna get ugly!!!
Ok here we go!
I'm about to post pictures of a bunch of documents exposing this lieing thief!

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

Simons was it YOU I spoke with or an imposter about a month ago ?

I contacted 4 ppl directly:

- you
- the owner of large gay program
- the affiliate rep of a gay program
- a content guy (lykos) that I've made few HUGE deals with

then I "hired" two people, one british and one italian, to sell the content. No one single set has been sold. So I really want to read the email from sixpack with FULL story regarding this matter. At least this time he'll deal with the real me.

[mineistaken]

Chris Mallick amongs us.

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by sixpack

This gonna get ugly!!!
Ok here we go!
I'm about to post pictures of a bunch of documents exposing this lieing thief!

Since it's not a show but we (both) want to try to figure out what's happened can you please send me an email with the details?

Thanks.

[sixpack]

You have my ICQ, AIM & EMAIL and they are in my signature.

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by sixpack

You have my ICQ, AIM & EMAIL and they are in my signature.

Again, write me an email with ALL details please, [email protected]. My ONLY official email address.

Thanks.

[sixpack]

The funny thing is that the wire was sent to YOUR company, the same as on the WHOIS.
This is NOT a game!

[sixpack]

the banking info the money was sent to:

[sixpack]

The ending on the CONTRACT

[sixpack]

If you want more posted I can do that as well, that's up to you Simone. Now refund the money or give us the content we contracted and PAID FOR!

[bean-aid]

The emails don't match up. Is that his email?

[Supz]

For a wire, does the company name have to match? Wouldn't the account # and ABA # just matter? The google email address would have been enough for me to ask more questions or send an email from domain.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by beaner

The emails don't match up. Is that his email?

the wire info matches up

[TheAccountant]

So basically you have:
- A contract with my name on it
- An IBAN that doesn't belong to me (we use another bank sorry)
- The proof that no emails were sent from [email protected] but from a FREE email address with my second name on it

The italian IBAN tell me we both got scammed by the italian guy what I hired to re-sell the content. Can you please send the receipt that you said to have? Please use the email this time, thank you.

Btw is your name Tomas Wasula? Are you the one involved in this scam https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1106684 and that people said that about ...

Tomas Wasula A.K.A. SixPack is the guy who started heading up PIBCash once Tam was terminated. He was Rodney Connor?s right hand man and was personally involved with all the wack shit that PIBCash was caught doing.

During the Pheonix Forum, Tom assured me that he was no longer doing business with PIBCash. Shortly after that show, I was informed by a PIBCash employee that the company was still employing Tom and that they were working on a new program. I was also told that everything was being put in Tom?s name instead of Rodney?s in order to keep the heat off of the program.

Anthing that has the name Rodney or Tom from PIBCash associated with it, is bad news.....thanks for the heads up Aaron.

Tom tried to get me to invest in one of his ethicly bad business ideas while I was in AZ last. Of course, I passed. Warning to others(that don't know him), I would just be weary around that guy.

And that is definitely the Tom that got my job, lucky bastard *insert sarcastic laugh here*. ANYONE that deals with either of them, together or seperate needs to watch their backs, fronts and everything in between.

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

the wire info matches up

Nope, we use a different IBAN with a different bank.
I can't have enough information to try to investigate, that's why I asked sxipack to send me an email with the receipt.

From what I know the only thing you need to send a wire is the IBAN, then you can put even Osama Bin Laden as beneficiary name.

[sixpack]

For a wire, does the company name have to match? Wouldn't the account # and ABA # just matter? The google email address would have been enough for me to ask more questions or send an email from domain.

The Company matched the bank account, is you try and send a business wire to the wrong Company name the bank will kick it back.
As for the gmai address, the emails where sent to [email protected], I know a lot of people including self have company emails sent to our personal email accounts.

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by Supz

For a wire, does the company name have to match? Wouldn't the account # and ABA # just matter? The google email address would have been enough for me to ask more questions or send an email from domain.

That's the point! Since I have nothing to hide I always use my @dudescash.com address to do business. We got my gmail and hotmail account hacked 5 times over the years.

I offered him my help since I feel somehow involved just because there's my name there. But I haven't got any email from him yet.

[sixpack]

Simon your such a looser! Everyone knows that the shit that Rodney and Tam did DID NOT INCLUDE ME, I WORKED AT TOPBUCKS WHEN THEY WHERE DOING IT, I came in after and got caught in the cross fire AFTER THE FACT! I left shortly after I found out about it (AND STOPPED HIM FROM DOING IT!). I HAD TO FIND ANOTHER JOB AS I HAVE A WIFE AND 4 DAUGHTERS TO FEED! ASSHOLE

Nope, we use a different IBAN with a different bank.
I can't have enough information to try to investigate, that's why I asked sxipack to send me an email with the receipt.

WHO DIDN'T KNOW YOU WHERE GONNA SAY THAT? WHAT ELSE COULD YOU SAY!

From what I know the only thing you need to send a wire is the IBAN, then you can put even Osama Bin Laden as beneficiary name.

YOUR AN IDIOT, YOU THINK THAT BANKS ARE THAT STUPID?

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by sixpack

The Company matched the bank account, is you try and send a business wire to the wrong Company name the bank will kick it back.
As for the gmai address, the emails where sent to [email protected], I know a lot of people including self have company emails sent to our personal email accounts.

You send ONE email to [email protected] and my assistant got it.
As for the wire nope, the company name could not match at all. The only thing you need is the IBAN and SWIFT/BIC.

Anyway I'm still waiting for an email from with the details.

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by sixpack

Simon your such a looser! Everyone knows that the shit that Rodney and Tam did DID NOT INCLUDE ME, I WORKED AT TOPBUCKS WHEN THEY WHERE DOING IT, I came in after and got caught in the cross fire AFTER THE FACT!

Dude, can you please email me with ALL details regarding the transaction you are talking about? It's the 5th time that I ask you that but it seems that you prefer doing a show here.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by simons

Nope, we use a different IBAN with a different bank.
I can't have enough information to try to investigate, that's why I asked sxipack to send me an email with the receipt.

From what I know the only thing you need to send a wire is the IBAN, then you can put even Osama Bin Laden as beneficiary name.

no dog in this race, but generally if i send a wire with an incorrect beneficiary name, it gets returned

a quick google search will find countless examples of this. Something to do with 'intermediate' bank etc

a quick call to the senders/receivers bank will confirm this of course

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

no dog in this race, but generally if i send a wire with an incorrect beneficiary name, it gets returned

a quick google search will find countless examples of this. Something to do with 'intermediate' bank etc

a quick call to the senders/receivers bank will confirm this of course

Maybe in the USA/Canada. Here what you need is the IBAN, that's all.
Btw again I'm open to help this Tomas Wasula.

Damn, I've just closed a deal of $60,000 in DVDs... I don't feel in need to scam a guy for $3000

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by simons

Maybe in the USA/Canada. Here what you need is the IBAN, that's all.
Btw again I'm open to help this Tomas Wasula.

Damn, I've just closed a deal of $70,000 in DVDs... I don't feel in need to scam a guy for $3000

and it is up to the receivers bank. however a quick call will clear a lot of things up in this case

[Lykos]

Originally Posted by simons

Maybe in the USA/Canada. Here what you need is the IBAN, that's all.
Btw again I'm open to help this Tomas Wasula.

Damn, I've just closed a deal of $70,000 in DVDs... I don't feel in need to scam a guy for $3000

I confirm that

I did deal with Sixpack as well, so i think that this is just miss-understanding and hope you guys fix it asap!

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by simons

I contacted 4 ppl directly:

- you
- the owner of large gay program
- the affiliate rep of a gay program
- a content guy (lykos) that I've made few HUGE deals with

then I "hired" two people, one british and one italian, to sell the content. No one single set has been sold. So I really want to read the email from sixpack with FULL story regarding this matter. At least this time he'll deal with the real me.

thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to woner if some one had your icq or was acting as you. I will leave you adults to resolve this.

good luck guys

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

and it is up to the receivers bank. however a quick call will clear a lot of things up in this case

The problem is that here the banks don't give details at all!
Btw I got the first email from sixpack... i hope to fix this issue shortly. Now I just wait for all the details so tomorrow I can start investigating.

[TheAccountant]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to woner if some one had your icq or was acting as you. I will leave you adults to resolve this.

good luck guys

It seems that my ICQ was hacked for sure, or maybe someone else was it on behalf of my without my knowledge.

But hey... we are going to fix this issue.

[Evil Chris]

I hope this gets resolved.

[adulttraffic]

Originally Posted by bossku69

Sad thing is, unless they live k. The same country as you, your screed. You can call your bank and tell them it was FRAUD and to submit a reversal of funds. The key here is dont ask, TELL THEM! Go in, be polite but don't leave until you get what you want, otherwise you are just their bitch.



Sad but true. I always use something like PayPal with a credit card or an escrow.com account. It's to easy to rip someone off.

LOL You cant reverse a wire transfer.

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