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MrBottomTooth 07-17-2013 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 19721099)
The problem is simple. Anyone in an impoverished neighborhood needs to stop having kids. Some people think kids give them hope. I disagree. It doesn't take an anthropologist to see the results of over breeding in the hood. It's simple supply & demand. Kids demand money. If the supply isn't there to feed that demand, & the demand is exponentially growing, then there is a fundamental problem with that ideology. This may sound a tad harsh but people should have to meet a specific required criteria in order to get a "breeding pass."
Duke

I don't know how welfare works in the us but here in canada many poor people see having a kid as a meal ticket. The more kids they have the more money the government gives them. Its not a lot but they still see it as free money and many of them are able to survive on it. Combine that with some of the various tax credits they get for having children and being under a certain income level and its almost crazy how much money they get for free just for spitting out kids.

lock 07-17-2013 03:36 AM

Apparently they even rule countries too

kane 07-17-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19721202)
I don't know how welfare works in the us but here in canada many poor people see having a kid as a meal ticket. The more kids they have the more money the government gives them. Its not a lot but they still see it as free money and many of them are able to survive on it. Combine that with some of the various tax credits they get for having children and being under a certain income level and its almost crazy how much money they get for free just for spitting out kids.

There are some people who make being in the system a career. When I was growing up there was a woman in the town I lived in who had four kids from four different guys. She was proud of being on welfare because she considered herself a full time mom. Her oldest, a daughter, got knocked up at 17 and her mom was so proud she would tell people about how she was getting on welfare. She would talk about it like her daughter just became a doctor or something.

Another example. I overheard two women talking once. One had a small kid and was pregnant. They were talking about her welfare and she said she can't wait for her baby to come because she will be getting a "raise."

shimmy2 07-17-2013 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19720834)
So, the huge amount of violent crime attributable to blacks in this country is overwhelmingly committed by an age cohort (13-44) of black men that can't be even 2.5% of the population.

we winning!

tonyparra 07-17-2013 05:07 AM

alot of experts on being black on gfy.

Grapesoda 07-17-2013 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19720568)
The sad thing is that it will not stop until there is a sea change in this country. First, black people and black communities need to realize that they need to band together and help each other instead of using each other. Second, white people need to realize that black people banding together is not something dangerous. They also need to change their general thoughts and actions. The second you either forgive someone for their actions because of their race, or you expect them to act in a certain way because of their race you are contributing to the problem.

the major change will have to come from within the black community from what I see... i.e. earn respect

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-17-2013 08:25 PM

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According to Justice Department statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.
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Don't White People Kill Each Other, Too?

And yet we keep hearing about black-on-black crime because it fits the false media narrative.


When it comes to America's racial past and present, lies and snake oil are sold in many colors.

In the wake of the Trayvon Martin tragedy, conservatives in media have sought to deflect from the racism and racial profiling that precipitated his untimely death by referencing the broader social malaise of supposed "black-on-black violence."

On last week's episode of This Week on ABC, Washington Post columnist George Will said that despite the Trayvon tragedy, "150 black men are killed every week in this country," and "about 94 percent of them by other black men."

Will parroted arguments made by many conservatives, his intended point being that black-on-black crime remains the real problem our nation should address. The half-truth he spoke went curiously unchallenged by the panel -- including former White House adviser Van Jones -- largely because the meta-narrative of black-on-black violence is widely accepted in journalistic and political circles.

Bill O'Reilly, the Fox News host and one-man propaganda machine, recently interviewed Columbia University professor Marc Lamont Hill to discuss similar claims from Wall Street Journal contributor Shelby Steele, who wrote in "The Exploitation of Trayvon Martin" that "black teenagers are afraid of other black teenagers, not whites." O'Reilly vehemently defended Steele's premise that the Trayvon Martin case is an anomaly.

"Blacks today are nine times more likely to be killed by other blacks than by whites," Steele wrote. He went on to attack the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for "exploiting" Trayvon's death in an effort to promote a "liberal" agenda -- a point that O'Reilly was all too happy to expound.

Steele's perspective, though myopic and misguided, remains pervasive and embedded in the broader social consciousness. This red-herring approach is not new, but in the face of Trayvon's death -- for which there remains no arrest, no charges and no arraignment -- these obstructive tactics require an equal and opposite response.

What Will, Steele and O'Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

In fact, all races share similar ratios. Yet there's no outrage or racialized debate about "white on white" violence. Instead, the myth and associated fear of "black on black" crime is sold as a legitimate, mainstream descriptive and becomes American status quo.

The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, more than 2-1.

Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African Americans to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they'll be raped, assaulted or murdered? Perhaps George Zimmerman's defenders should answer that question. If African Americans were to act as irrationally as Zimmerman did, would any rationale suffice to avoid arrest?

And why is no consideration given to the fact that Trayvon Martin, and millions of black boys and girls like him, harbor a reasonably founded fear of whites but are hardly ever provided the deference and dignity that victimhood affords?

The term "black on black" crime is a destructive, racialized colloquialism that perpetuates an idea that blacks are somehow more prone to violence. This is untrue and fully verifiable by FBI, DOJ and census (pdf) data. Yet the fallacy is so fixed that even African Americans have come to believe it.

In Michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, she explains that the term was coined in the 1980s as American cities underwent transformation as a result of riots, white flight and the onslaught of the drug trade. David Wilson, a professor at the University of Illinois, documents the phenomena in Inventing Black-on-Black Violence. Wilson says that instead of attributing increased crime activity to poverty, inequality and disenfranchisement, the media chose to blame "a supposedly defective, aberrant black culture."

In a 2010 piece published by The Root, "The Myth of Black-on-Black Violence," Natalie Hopkinson opines that journalists should follow the direction of the United Kingdom, where the Guardian newspaper banned the use of the phrase. A Guardian stylebook asked authors to ''imagine the police saying they were investigating an incident of white-on-white violence ... " Hopkinson concludes, "The term 'black-on-black violence' is a slander against the majority of law-abiding black Americans, rich and poor, who get painted by this broad and crude brush."

Trayvon Martin's tragic death reveals the worst ills at play within America's criminal-justice system. Not only was he murdered in large part because of dangerous, persistent stereotypes, but the failure of police to judiciously respond to the crime underscores the inequities that characterize institutionalized racism.

Those who respond to the tragedy by retreating to narratives of black-on-black crime seek to promote it as a defense against an innocent child's violent homicide. This reveals how entrenched the lies have become and how eager too many people are to absolve both Zimmerman's guilt and their own tacit consent.

African-American media and policymakers have been equally complicit in promoting a "black-on-black crime" anecdote, thinking that it could help address some of the community's problems; but what it has actually done is provide support for racial profiling and promote the disproportionate policing of black criminality as "legitimate" and "acceptable." This over-policing has led to disproportionately higher rates of arrests in black communities, reinforcing the idea that blacks commit more crimes.

If we were to talk about "white-on-white crime," then at least we'd be addressing issues like gun violence in a racially neutral way. That doesn't happen because too many Americans remain convinced that black or brown people are the problem. Respected journalists like George Will further perpetuate lies as fact when they make blanket statements that support an ill-conceived narrative.

t seems that the media in general and white American society in particular prefer to focus on crime perpetrated by African Americans because it serves as a way to absolve them from the violence, prejudice and institutionalized discrimination engendered for generations against blacks. It offers a buffer against responsibility, a way to shift blame and deflect cause and effect. But the truth, and numbers, tell a different story.

The myth of black-on-black violence has become a stain on the sociopolitical consciousness and indelibly imbues mindsets as well as public policy. At the heart of an increasingly violent society is not a subculture among blacks but the violence and criminality of many Americans, and whites in particular. No one seems to speak about this. Why? Because the snake oil was duly purchased and consumed. It is time for race-based pseudo-facts to be challenged and dismantled.
Next?

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Just Alex 07-17-2013 08:55 PM

Black people hate statistics and would rather call it "racism" and blame everyone else for it.

DTK 07-17-2013 09:34 PM

In this thread..many bigots who almost certainly don't realize they are bigots.

Not to mention trolls and self-aware bigots.

Captain Kawaii 07-18-2013 12:15 AM

America was founded on racism, annihilation and bigotry. Its the American way of life. Of all colors.

Anyone immigrating to Australia?

mineistaken 07-18-2013 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19722430)

Anyone immigrating to Australia?

Australia is full enough of asian immigrants as it is already... More than you would expect, soon it will be almost like Britain

MrBottomTooth 07-18-2013 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19722315)

Not sure what your point is. So since they mostly kill each other its ok for them to be 7 times more likely to commit murder than other races?

Trend 07-18-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19722315)

In Los Angeles, crime rates are in fact lopsided. as part of a Federal Data Collection Program the data shows that blacks committed 41% of all robberies, according to victims' descriptions given to the LAPD, though they constitute only 11% of the city's population.

Robbery victims named whites, who make up 30% of the population, 4% of the time, while Latinos, 46% of the population, were identified as the assailant in 45% of such crimes.

The figures for aggravated assault and rape are similarly skewed.

If we put aside the PC bullshit for a minute .. there is no denying an issue exists.

Based on crime rates the best areas to live in in the USA ( 500k population or better ) are:

1. Nassau County NY ( 73.0% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 11.2% African American )

2. Suffolk County NY ( 80.3% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 7.4% African American )

3. Ventura, CA ( 76.6% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 1.6% African American )


The Worst ....

1. Detroit ( 82.7% African American & 7.8% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

2. Memphis ( 62.6% African American: & 29.5% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

3. Birmingham AL ( 62.46% African American & 35.07% Non Hispanic Caucasian )


It's not racist to evaluate the data and make informed decisions. Would you pick up your family and move to Detroit, Birmingham or Memphis? I sure the hell wouldn't. I keep hearing about "profiling" in the context of it being a terrible thing. I call bullshit. We all use profiling in THIS industry every day.... age, financial, regional, sex etc

Show of hands please.. who is targeting their marketing efforts toward old, poor women from China?

Captain Kawaii 07-18-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19722547)
Australia is full enough of asian immigrants as it is already... More than you would expect, soon it will be almost like Britain

I've been seeing news about marketing being directed toward white Brits to make the move to Australia to bring more people in from Britain. If it is true white Brits are leaving England and the Isles in droves because the job market has been so crushed by the douchebag MP's behind the influx of people who hate the British.

In any case I think the economy in the next decade will be fantastic for Australians. I hope so anyway.

Captain Kawaii 07-18-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19722617)
In Los Angeles, crime rates are in fact lopsided. as part of a Federal Data Collection Program the data shows that blacks committed 41% of all robberies, according to victims' descriptions given to the LAPD, though they constitute only 11% of the city's population.

Robbery victims named whites, who make up 30% of the population, 4% of the time, while Latinos, 46% of the population, were identified as the assailant in 45% of such crimes.

The figures for aggravated assault and rape are similarly skewed.

If we put aside the PC bullshit for a minute .. there is no denying an issue exists.

Based on crime rates the best areas to live in in the USA ( 500k population or better ) are:

1. Nassau County NY ( 73.0% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 11.2% African American )

2. Suffolk County NY ( 80.3% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 7.4% African American )

3. Ventura, CA ( 76.6% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 1.6% African American )


The Worst ....

1. Detroit ( 82.7% African American & 7.8% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

2. Memphis ( 62.6% African American: & 29.5% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

3. Birmingham AL ( 62.46% African American & 35.07% Non Hispanic Caucasian )


It's not racist to evaluate the data and make informed decisions. Would you pick up your family and move to Detroit, Birmingham or Memphis? I sure the hell wouldn't. I keep hearing about "profiling" in the context of it being a terrible thing. I call bullshit. We all use profiling in THIS industry every day.... age, financial, regional, sex etc

Show of hands please.. who is targeting their marketing efforts toward old, poor women from China?

You are right on with some ugly stats.

An American scholar said recently that discussing race and racism has now become labeled a racist act. I guess pharma should amp up the control of the population as have the political groups responsible for the labeling/banning of discussion topics. Since the 80's it has been evident that political correctness is just another form of bigotry and oppression. It presents the idea there is no other way to discuss a topic without conforming to the ideology behind the PC movement.

I've never bought into the whitie is oppressing me therefore I commit violent crimes routine. If American blacks wanted true revenge against their "oppressors" they would elevate their numbers who stay in school, work hard and go to college. Real colleges. D.L. Hughely said a major problem is that the back community has a "I got mine" mentality that has crushed their advancement internally.

shimmy2 07-20-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19720924)
I don't doubt that black males are committing a larger than normal (even much larger than normal) amount of crimes. I am simply saying that they are not committing 70% of the crimes. The numbers just don't add up.

here in the DR black females make up the remaining 30%

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...95068202_n.jpg

DatePoster 07-20-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19721268)
alot of experts on being black on gfy.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Creatine 07-20-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 19725582)
here in the DR black females make up the remaining 30%

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...95068202_n.jpg

Wow.. now that's a real challenge.
:thumbsup

slapass 07-20-2013 04:47 PM

Just a heads up for those who don't pay attention. It is changing. Crime is way down and obviously thus black crime is way down. It takes time. 50 years ago we had a totally racist society. Some of those people are still alive. They are the ones with the money as they are old. They will die and we wil get closer to equality. Then the next generation who remembers the gang stuff of the 90's. then so on and so on. It is a process not an overnight thing.

Trend 07-20-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 19725582)
here in the DR black females make up the remaining 30%

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...95068202_n.jpg

Jezus! That dude is pretty cute :thumbsup

oppoten 07-20-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19722315)

Stereotypes.

ilnjscb 07-21-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19722315)

racist shit

pornsprite 07-21-2013 02:40 PM

Just in case anyone really cares about the FBI facts. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...ables/table-43

lock 07-22-2013 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19723040)
I've been seeing news about marketing being directed toward white Brits to make the move to Australia to bring more people in from Britain. If it is true white Brits are leaving England and the Isles in droves because the job market has been so crushed by the douchebag MP's behind the influx of people who hate the British.

In any case I think the economy in the next decade will be fantastic for Australians. I hope so anyway.

There is unemployment in Australia too but it is caused by massive illegal immigration. In a documentary recently aired there are claims of 10,000 holiday makers overstay their visas each week in Sydney alone. The building trades have illegal workers that are working for cash and because of it genuine apprenticeships etc for school levers aren't available when these employers can have 2-3 illegals eventually nobody will have qualifications. Australia has a massive illegal immigration problem. The promise of employment may work for Doctors i am not sure about other industries. The immigrants that legally arrive sign up for the dole.


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