GMO vs Organic corn

[mromro]

Yeah, Looks like it's safe to eat and they don't want to label foods that contain GMO.

[Matt 26z]

[baddog]

How much GMO corn is grown to be food for people vs fuel or feed?

[BFT3K]

http://www.businessinsider.com/monsa...e-toxic-2012-9

[BFT3K]

http://occupymonsanto360.org/blog/mo...at-all-levels/

[mikesinner]

Until I see a scientific study it's bullshit. A lot of people make a living by fueling human paranoia.

[eroticsexxx]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

Until I see a scientific study it's bullshit. A lot of people make a living by fueling human paranoia.

No need for a scientific study. Perform your own.

Early humans would test the edibility of what they ate by watching what other animals would (or outright feeding it to their domesticated ones). Although we are well past that point, you should try it with your food sometime. Just put a small portion of something you are eating outside on a porch or somewhere that ants can get at it. A surprising number of foods we eat nowadays often go untouched by birds, ants and other creatures.

[mromro]

How about microwaved water vs purified water?
Is this scientific enough for you?

Link to source here

[baryl]

Originally Posted by mromro

How about microwaved water vs purified water?
Is this scientific enough for you?

Link to source here

No, that site has a pretty obvious agenda to push as well as selling a ton of pseudoscience junk devices.. It's hardly scientific and unbiased. It's the opposite of scientific.

You might as well link to a tobacco company sponsored study that cigarettes are good for you.

[sarettah]

The problem I have with the chart you posted (and what I read all the time) is that it could be the GMO corn that is an issue or it could be the Roundup.

If you read the footnotes, the Non-GMO was planted in soil that had not had any Roundup on it for 5 years. The GMO corn was planted in soil that had had Roundup for 10 years.

In the businessinsider article that was posted, the rats were subjected to both GMO corn and Roundup.

So, is it the corn or the Roundup.

My bet is on the Roundup, that stuff is very deadly.

There is no such thing anymore as natural corn. By the time the Spanish hit the Western Hemisphere the Indians had already been manipulating corn for thousands of years. To the point that there was no wild corn. GMO is pretty much the same thing in reality just going directly against the DNA instead of selectively cultivating.

just my

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[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mromro

Yeah, Looks like it's safe to eat and they don't want to label foods that contain GMO.

there is no way on this earth that rats *chose* to not eat corn on the fucking cob. not ever in the history of this planet would rats not eat that corn. that is complete mularky.


the main measurement highlighted in this, thebrix measurement, has been shown to be suspect. here's a good solid report on that.

http://organic.kysu.edu/Brix.shtml

i'm not advocating roundup/monsanto. the topic is complex and not black&white.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx

No need for a scientific study. Perform your own.
Just put a small portion of something you are eating outside on a porch or somewhere that ants can get at it. A surprising number of foods we eat nowadays often go untouched by birds, ants and other creatures.

have you seen ants make a frenzy for cola, doritos, chocolate pie, friedd chicken? corn syrup? they love processed foods. birds don't eat human food.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx

Early humans would test the edibility of what they ate by watching what other animals would (or outright feeding it to their domesticated ones). Although we are well past that point, you should try it with your food sometime. Just put a small portion of something you are eating outside on a porch or somewhere that ants can get at it. A surprising number of foods we eat nowadays often go untouched by birds, ants and other creatures.

Originally Posted by mromro

How about microwaved water vs purified water?
Is this scientific enough for you?

Link to source here

I did that one to see for myself, had the same results. Stopped using the microwave after that.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

birds don't eat human food.

The birds here do. Our pain in the ass neighbor tosses out all sorts of odd bits every day on the street and pigeons swarm about, gobbling up all of it. I keep telling the guy some of it may be harmful to them, but he says he's been feeding them all his life and I didn't know what I was talking about. The guy is in his 80s and 100s of pigeons show up every day to dine, so I don't have much ammo after that other than yapping him over the amount of bird shit in front of my house, on the bike, on the gate, and so on.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

bullshit...

I can spike results for any "non organic" corn though the roof...

all it takes is a shitty plot of land, some careless additive-ing and picking the crop before the Karentz or wait period is over and viola! you have a "case" against GMO

I own a commercial greenhouse, produce tomatoes and peppers and green salads...GMO is the way to go because "organic" is until you get your first pests and then you are not organic any more LOL you can not risk 4 hectares of crop being destroyed in 2-3 days, you launch a full chemical attack and wait for the Karentz period to pass and you are free to pick and sell...

its not organic its "organic"

just like lance armstrong

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by DWB

The birds here do.

maybe you don't have gmo's in thailand. right.

anyway, you're just being obtuse, for fun prolly, you know the point i am making. i can throw raw hamburger into the middle of the street and a few birds might drop by here and there but if it's only birds, that will be there a long time.

certainly.