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  • Dankasaur
    So Fucking Fossilized
    • Sep 2011
    • 1432
    #1

    Michael P of QWEBEC Expo inside.

    My contact form is not a place for you to spam your expo shit. It's meant for clients and potential clients.

    Want me at it? Pay for a plane ticket, and all expenses, otherwise, stick to a proper double opt-in newsletter and not spamming your bullshit.

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    • ReggieDurango
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2007
      • 4784
      #2
      So Much Anger, Son!

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        • MaDalton
          I am Amazing Content!
          • Feb 2004
          • 39861
          #3
          it's a good show though ;)

          too bad i have accidentally booked vacation at that time, otherwise i would go
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            • Dankasaur
              So Fucking Fossilized
              • Sep 2011
              • 1432
              #4
              Originally posted by ReggieDurango
              So Much Anger, Son!
              I don't approve of, support, or engage in any spamming activities... I have a newsletter on my site and it collects emails, double opt-in and I don't even have a way to send emails to them yet...

              I expect better from someone like Michael, not to spam a developers contact form. It has captcha on it, so he had to manually do it too, that makes it even worse.

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                • Sly
                  Let's do some business!
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 31376
                  #5
                  This is a cold call. You should see how many I get. Not a big deal, and you never know what business you can pull out of them.

                  Next time just delete it.
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                    • Dankasaur
                      So Fucking Fossilized
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1432
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Sly
                      This is a cold call. You should see how many I get. Not a big deal, and you never know what business you can pull out of them.

                      Next time just delete it.
                      Originally posted by http://www.fcc.gov/guides/spam-unwanted-text-messages-and-email
                      The CAN-SPAM Act defines commercial messages as those that primarily advertise or promote a commercial product or service. The FCC’s ban does not cover “transactional or relationship” messages -- that is, notices to facilitate a transaction you have already agreed to -- for example, messages that provide information about your existing account or warranty information about a product you’ve purchased. The FCC’s ban also does not cover non-commercial messages, such as messages about candidates for public office, or email messages that you have forwarded from your computer to your wireless device (but read below about the FTC’s rules that may restrict such messages).

                      Federal rules require the following for commercial email sent to your email:
                      • Identification – The email must be clearly identified as a solicitation or advertisement for products or services;
                      • Opt-Out – The email must provide easily-accessible, legitimate, and free ways for you to reject future messages from that sender;
                      • Return Address – The email must contain legitimate return email addresses, as well as the sender’s postal address.
                      According to the laws, he has not done 2 of the 3 requirements, that my friend is spam... And he only qualified for the first one because the subject isn't settable on the contact form, so I gave him that.

                      I find it funny that so many people here are all "just delete it" when it comes to laws being broken regarding spam, but heaven forbid a site has full length videos on it, and follows legal requirements regarding DMCA...
                      Last edited by Dankasaur; 06-27-2013, 08:49 AM.

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                        • MichaelP
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 7124
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Dankasaur
                          I don't approve of, support, or engage in any spamming activities... I have a newsletter on my site and it collects emails, double opt-in and I don't even have a way to send emails to them yet...

                          I expect better from someone like Michael, not to spam a developers contact form. It has captcha on it, so he had to manually do it too, that makes it even worse.
                          Yes it was manually.

                          I truly apologize if I offended you.

                          Just trying to bring the most people for the benefit of everyone coming to the event.

                          I will never contact you again... Promise... Sorry again
                          Last edited by MichaelP; 06-27-2013, 08:53 AM.

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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089
                              #8
                              I would complain to his upstream provider if it bugs you.

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                                • CaptainHowdy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 94733
                                  #9

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                                    • Dankasaur
                                      So Fucking Fossilized
                                      • Sep 2011
                                      • 1432
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by MichaelP
                                      Yes it was manually.

                                      I truly apologize if I offended you.

                                      Just trying to bring the most people for the benefit of everyone coming to the event.

                                      Sorry again
                                      I've been part of this industry for many years... I know what QWEBEC Expo is... I don't need you clogging up my contact form meant for my customers.... Would you like me to send you unsolicated emails to [email protected] about everything I do? Of course you wouldn't.

                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                      I would complain to his upstream provider if it bugs you.
                                      Nah, this was a thread meant to let him and the public know that it's not acceptable to spam people. Period. If it did bother me that much, I wouldn't complain to his upstream provider or even had made this thread, but would have just contacted the FCC right away.

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                                        • jgabra62
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2006
                                          • 1396
                                          #11
                                          It's a damn good show though...
                                          You can spam me anytime Michael...my inbox is your inbox
                                          Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
                                          NMS Productions USA, LLC

                                          [email protected]
                                          Skype: jgabra62

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                                            • Bman
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 1679
                                              #12
                                              get over your self and grow up ...fucking comes on gfy to complain about an email lol I have heard it all

                                              and by the way he is from Canada...dont know how you can enforce a us law my friend
                                              Last edited by Bman; 06-27-2013, 09:05 AM.
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                                                • MichaelP
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 7124
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                  it's a good show though ;)

                                                  too bad i have accidentally booked vacation at that time, otherwise i would go
                                                  Awwww Txs, Too Sad you can,t make it this year. We'll miss you Stefan... (Yes I sent you one too) Sorry

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                                                    • Dankasaur
                                                      So Fucking Fossilized
                                                      • Sep 2011
                                                      • 1432
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Bman
                                                      get over your self and grow up ...fucking comes on gfy to complain about an email lol I have heard it all

                                                      and by the way he is from Canada...dont know how you can enforce a us law my friend
                                                      You're right, I can't enforce US laws in Canada, but a quick lookup of Canada's CAN-SPAM Act shows that it's much more strict than the US, meaning I have to express to him that I want him to send me his marketing... Whereas in the US you only have to provide those 3 things mentioned in my previous reply.

                                                      But hey, go ahead and tell people to get over someone breaking the law, all while bitching about legal websites.

                                                      Anyway, this thread can die now, Michael saw it, and my point to him was conveyed.

                                                      I'm going back to coding, enjoy your day.

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                                                        • Fat Panda
                                                          Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 13296
                                                          #15
                                                          fucking spammers. nothing shocks me anymore

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                                                            • Jman
                                                              Already an AI veteran
                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 22838
                                                              #16
                                                              So Dankasaurus was successful in showing to all he as 0 tolerance for a hard working member of this industry and needed to cry wolf about 1 single introduction email.

                                                              Good job dood... hope you feel big and tall now
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                                                                • MichaelP
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 7124
                                                                  #17
                                                                  OK for the record, and not tryin to defend myself,

                                                                  Yes I spend the morning sending that one email to some people I found here on GFY.... Amazing how some people never heard about us even after 10 years. Also sometime people forget the dates and book something else.

                                                                  If you received the email and are not happy with that, please kindly reply with 'REMOVE', I'll understand.

                                                                  It is not my intention to send multiples mails to everyone anyway.

                                                                  My genuine apologies again

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                                                                    • Bman
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                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 1679
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                      You're right, I can't enforce US laws in Canada, but a quick lookup of Canada's CAN-SPAM Act shows that it's much more strict than the US, meaning I have to express to him that I want him to send me his marketing... Whereas in the US you only have to provide those 3 things mentioned in my previous reply.

                                                                      But hey, go ahead and tell people to get over someone breaking the law, all while bitching about legal websites.

                                                                      Anyway, this thread can die now, Michael saw it, and my point to him was conveyed.

                                                                      I'm going back to coding, enjoy your day.
                                                                      ha ha dude I will tell you this...murders here go to jail for a couple years here...the last fucking thing that is ever going to be enforced here is a spam law
                                                                      and the absolutely last place in Canada that they are gonna take an American serious is Quebec. Hate to tell you this buddy but nobody give a fuck.
                                                                      Last edited by Bman; 06-27-2013, 09:18 AM.
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                                                                        • CaptainHowdy
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                          • 94733
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by MichaelP
                                                                          OK for the record, and not tryin to defend myself,

                                                                          Yes I spend the morning sending that one email to some people I found here on GFY.... Amazing how some people never heard about us even after 10 years. Also sometime people forget the dates and book something else.

                                                                          If you received the email and are not happy with that, please kindly reply with 'REMOVE', I'll understand.

                                                                          It is not my intention to send multiples mails to everyone anyway.

                                                                          My genuine apologies again
                                                                          You should be locked up forever. You are a monster.

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                                                                            • Dankasaur
                                                                              So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                              • Sep 2011
                                                                              • 1432
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Jman
                                                                              So Dankasaurus was successful in showing to all he as 0 tolerance for a hard working member of this industry and needed to cry wolf about 1 single introduction email.

                                                                              Good job dood... hope you feel big and tall now
                                                                              So Jman doesn't understand CAN-SPAM Appliance, and allows a "stand up bro" to break the law, but thinks fully legal sites are bad.

                                                                              You people need to learn about proper CAN-SPAM Appliance and how to keep your own companies in the green, because most of you don't understand it and aren't even compliant.

                                                                              Originally posted by MichaelP
                                                                              OK for the record, and not tryin to defend myself,

                                                                              Yes I spend the morning sending that one email to some people I found here on GFY.... Amazing how some people never heard about us even after 10 years. Also sometime people forget the dates and book something else.

                                                                              If you received the email and are not happy with that, please kindly reply with 'REMOVE', I'll understand.

                                                                              It is not my intention to send multiples mails to everyone anyway.

                                                                              My genuine apologies again
                                                                              Michael, since you're the only one who understands the reason I made this thread, I do want to thank you. But just to let you know, unless I had specifically said "yeah send me that email!" or had signed up for your newsletter, what you're doing falls under CAN-SPAM as illegal... Which could be pretty harmful to your business if enough people report it as spam, and people really do... Especially with the easy 1 click button that Google offers in Gmail to flag that email as spam. Your name, business, website, and ip addresses are all flagged...

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                                                                                • Bman
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                  • 1679
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Just so you get it through your thick head most spammers, tube owners, cc bangers...are from Canada. There is a reason for that cause the laws dont apply here and nobody gives a fuck.
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                                                                                    • Dankasaur
                                                                                      So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                      • Sep 2011
                                                                                      • 1432
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Bman
                                                                                      Hate to tell you this buddy but nobody give a fuck.
                                                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spammers

                                                                                      Yeah nobody gives a fuck.

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                                                                                        • Bman
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 1679
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spammers

                                                                                          Yeah nobody gives a fuck.

                                                                                          look at you coming on a board to complain about an email what a fuckin loser
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                                                                                            • Dankasaur
                                                                                              So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                              • Sep 2011
                                                                                              • 1432
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Bman
                                                                                              look at you coming on a board to complain about an email what a fuckin loser
                                                                                              Shouldn't you be in the buy and sell section selling content packs for $99 so you can afford to pay your way into the races?

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                                                                                                • jgabra62
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                                  • 1396
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I have a feeling this thread is going to help bring at least 10-15 more people to the QWEBEC Expo...well done guys, and I'll see you all there!
                                                                                                  Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
                                                                                                  NMS Productions USA, LLC

                                                                                                  [email protected]
                                                                                                  Skype: jgabra62

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                                                                                                    • Bman
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                      • 1679
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                      Shouldn't you be in the buy and sell section selling content packs for $99 so you can afford to pay your way into the races?
                                                                                                      You cam on here to complain about an email?
                                                                                                      Industry related.
                                                                                                      This is not a guy trying to sell you bs.

                                                                                                      I dont understand what they hell difference it would make to delete an email or email him back and ask him to take you off your list.
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                                                                                                        • Ferus
                                                                                                          Bye - Left to do stuff
                                                                                                          • Feb 2013
                                                                                                          • 4108
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                          This is a cold call.

                                                                                                          Next time just delete it.
                                                                                                          Yes - like it or not. Unless he consider himself a consumer, rather than a webmaster

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                                                                                                            • Dankasaur
                                                                                                              So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                              • Sep 2011
                                                                                                              • 1432
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I'm a programmer.

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                                                                                                                • Bman
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                  • 1679
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jgabra62
                                                                                                                  I have a feeling this thread is going to help bring at least 10-15 more people to the QWEBEC Expo...well done guys, and I'll see you all there!
                                                                                                                  Its actually a fuckin great show. One of my favs. Montreal rocks, best city in North America especially during the summer.
                                                                                                                  Of course Dankasour won't ever find that out
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                                                                                                                    • _Richard_
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                      • 30991
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by jgabra62
                                                                                                                      I have a feeling this thread is going to help bring at least 10-15 more people to the QWEBEC Expo...well done guys, and I'll see you all there!


                                                                                                                      nice that the organizers are so involved

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                                                                                                                        • Bman
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                          • 1679
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                          Shouldn't you be in the buy and sell section selling content packs for $99 so you can afford to pay your way into the races?
                                                                                                                          uhmm sorry for trying to do business on a business board.
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                                                                                                                            • Evil Chris
                                                                                                                              OG
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                              • 13248
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Looking forward to your show, Michael.


                                                                                                                              It PAYZE to post on GFY

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                                                                                                                                • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                  • 1432
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Evil Chris
                                                                                                                                  Looking forward to your show, Michael.
                                                                                                                                  Good luck Michael, all the best.

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                                                                                                                                    • Jman
                                                                                                                                      Already an AI veteran
                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 22838
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                      I'm a programmer.
                                                                                                                                      And......
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                                                                                                                                        • Bman
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                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 1679
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                          I'm a programmer.
                                                                                                                                          These are business shows. I know you sell software. I would say for a guy like you it would be a great place to go and network

                                                                                                                                          Its a good break, great city and you will make your money back x 5 within a few months
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                                                                                                                                            • MichaelP
                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 7124
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                              I'm a programmer.
                                                                                                                                              So there is no chance, you could sell one of your products to a show attendees, affiliate, program owner ?

                                                                                                                                              Or maybe recruit a few more affiliates, since you have a program ?


                                                                                                                                              Just sayin'

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                                                                                                                                                • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                  • 1432
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Bman
                                                                                                                                                  These are business shows. I know you sell software. I would say for a guy like you it would be a great place to go and network

                                                                                                                                                  Its a good break, great city and you will make your money back x 5 within a few months
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MichaelP
                                                                                                                                                  So there is no chance, you could sell one of your products to a show attendees, affiliate, program owner ?

                                                                                                                                                  Or maybe recruit a few more affiliates, since you have a program ?


                                                                                                                                                  Just sayin'
                                                                                                                                                  Not worth the cost. I can network just as well through my current and future clients... No need to pay a $250 fee for an event, on top of round trip tickets, hotel stay, and cost of everything else... 12 years without ever going to an event, I have no real want to go anytime soon... Actually I am wrong, I may go to Vegas next year mostly to meet up with some long time web buddies and because I have friends in Vegas so the cost is really cheap.

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                                                                                                                                                    • MichaelP
                                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 7124
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                      Not worth the cost. I can network just as well through my current and future clients... No need to pay a $250 fee for an event, on top of round trip tickets, hotel stay, and cost of everything else... 12 years without ever going to an event, I have no real want to go anytime soon... Actually I am wrong, I may go to Vegas next year mostly to meet up with some long time web buddies and because I have friends in Vegas so the cost is really cheap.
                                                                                                                                                      Correction : 250$ is for a Meet Market Table including one badge. (up to 2 additional badges for tables exhibitors @ $100 ea.)

                                                                                                                                                      Registration is only $160. probably the lowest in the whole circuit.

                                                                                                                                                      Now for those interested, let's do some maths

                                                                                                                                                      1 badge = $160
                                                                                                                                                      1 Table including 1 badge = $250
                                                                                                                                                      only $90 for the table

                                                                                                                                                      2 Badges = $320
                                                                                                                                                      1 Table including 1 badge = $250 + 1 additional badge @ $100 = $350
                                                                                                                                                      only $30 for the table

                                                                                                                                                      3 Badges = $480
                                                                                                                                                      1 Table including 1 badge = $250 + 2 additional badge @ $100 = $450
                                                                                                                                                      you save $30 and have the table
                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by MichaelP; 06-27-2013, 10:04 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                          • 1432
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MichaelP
                                                                                                                                                          Correction : 250$ is for a Meet Market Table including one badge. (up to 2 additional badges for tables exhibitors @ $100 ea.)

                                                                                                                                                          Registration is only $160. probably the lowest in the whole circuit.

                                                                                                                                                          Now for those interested, let's do some maths

                                                                                                                                                          1 badge = $160
                                                                                                                                                          1 Table including 1 badge = $250
                                                                                                                                                          only $90 for the table

                                                                                                                                                          2 Badges = $320
                                                                                                                                                          1 Table including 1 badge = $250 + 1 additional badge @ $100 = $350
                                                                                                                                                          only $30 for the table

                                                                                                                                                          3 Badges = $480
                                                                                                                                                          1 Table including 1 badge = $250 + 2 additional badge @ $100 = $450
                                                                                                                                                          you save $30 and have the table
                                                                                                                                                          Plus $800 round trip plane tickets to and from Montreal, A decent hotel will be about $100 or more a night, so that's an extra $500... So I'm paying $1500+ for something that I can do for free... That's not counting no work being done for 5 days...

                                                                                                                                                          I see shows like I seen college... I could go to college, pay all this money and meet good people, experience things... Or I could just skip college, and spend that time making money instead of spending money, and still get the same out of it.

                                                                                                                                                          I've been a programmer for 14 years, I have more skills and knowledge teaching myself than my buddy who graduated college for computer science... He has a $30,000 debt to the college, while I've made more than that in a single year...

                                                                                                                                                          I guess if partying and talking face to face with people who may or may not be customers is your thing, go ahead... But like I said, 12 years experience without it, I am content.

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                                                                                                                                                            • baddog
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 107089
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MichaelP

                                                                                                                                                              Or maybe recruit a few more affiliates, since you have a program ?
                                                                                                                                                              Programmer must mean something different up there.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1432
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                  Programmer must mean something different up there.
                                                                                                                                                                  He's referring to the affiliate program on my site, which is only available to actual customers of my products, so it's useless to people who don't own my software.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Klen
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                      • 32235
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      In my experience,shows are only for :
                                                                                                                                                                      -sponsors
                                                                                                                                                                      -billers
                                                                                                                                                                      -content sellers
                                                                                                                                                                      -Traffic brokers
                                                                                                                                                                      Affiliates and other kind of people cant do anything on show plus there is no need,i mean there are sites like 6bot and signbucksdaily where you can found out about any sponsor so going to show is complete waste of money for affiliate.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • CamTraffic
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                                          • 6538
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                          So Jman doesn't understand CAN-SPAM Appliance, and allows a "stand up bro" to break the law, but thinks fully legal sites are bad.

                                                                                                                                                                          You people need to learn about proper CAN-SPAM Appliance and how to keep your own companies in the green, because most of you don't understand it and aren't even compliant.
                                                                                                                                                                          And you need to learn about intellectual property !


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                                                                                                                                                                            • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1432
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by CamTraffic
                                                                                                                                                                              And you need to learn about intellectual property !


                                                                                                                                                                              Video game characters are certainly copyrighted, and whether or not it is fair use is probably immaterial. You cannot afford a copyright suit to defend your fair use rights. Remember Lessig's Free Culture and McLeod's Freedom of Expression on fair use? The video game manufacturers will certainly treat this as not fair use

                                                                                                                                                                              Don't be a douche, we all do stuff that's not 100% legal once in a while...
                                                                                                                                                                              http://my.opera.com/ICU109/albums/sh...ture=140804852

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                                                                                                                                                                                • CamTraffic
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6538
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                                  http://my.opera.com/ICU109/albums/sh...ture=140804852
                                                                                                                                                                                  but you don't see me cry about it...if i had to start a thread every time i get a spam. i ll be here all day...
                                                                                                                                                                                  I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Email me HERE!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Fossilized
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1432
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CamTraffic
                                                                                                                                                                                      but you don't see me cry about it...if i had to start a thread every time i get a spam. i ll be here all day...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • CamTraffic
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 6538
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                                          you got burned let it go moron...
                                                                                                                                                                                          I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Email me HERE!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                                                              2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2000
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 15224
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Wow, all of this over one email, I can see how valuable your time is that you couldn't hit delete...
                                                                                                                                                                                              Looking for Opportunity!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                                                                                                                                                  In my experience,shows are only for :
                                                                                                                                                                                                  -sponsors
                                                                                                                                                                                                  -billers
                                                                                                                                                                                                  -content sellers
                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Traffic brokers
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Affiliates and other kind of people cant do anything on show plus there is no need,i mean there are sites like 6bot and signbucksdaily where you can found out about any sponsor so going to show is complete waste of money for affiliate.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  you are far from the truth.... Either you went to one show and did nothing or not getting what you need out of the shows

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                                                                                                                                      He's referring to the affiliate program on my site, which is only available to actual customers of my products, so it's useless to people who don't own my software.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ah, okay.

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