Yes I have to stop sending traffic because in the stats appears a pretty lame uniques, that don't reflect the reality. I don't think that i will push anymore that affiliate program.

any update before i close my account.. i never used.

tested their mobile PPL few days ago, I think big shave to compare with others, I think loadedcash and AFF best of the best now. PPL is cute cocksucking bullshit.

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Well if they do indeed require the new user to go into his account after signing up and change his gender in order to qualify for a lead that would have a severe negative impact on conversion ratios. LRS did you actually ever do a test lead signup to confirm this?

What else concerns me is why are they only paying for "male" lead signups? So if I send a lesbian female as a lead who enjoys paying for camgirl privates, I'll receive nothing?

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The answer is simple. They have Intelligent-Male-Name-DB thing associated with Username field on registration page, so if you put there Joanne, Alice or Sindy it will check the DB and they know you're not male...

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I knew something like that was in play.. maybe i'm just sending too much lesbian traffic or something cus usually my traffic comes from watching naked women..

Don't want to be asshole, but he said USERS (what ever that means) told him, not FRIENDS.

It's kind of a spinning situation if you say the way you called them...

There is a big difference between Double Opt In and Double Opt In AND filling in profile (even partially)...

Does this apply to Single Opt In as well? - That would make the whole single opt in prog worthless.....

I am talking about Dating BTW - Would be good to get some clarity...

Dating Gold please just answer the question:

Do you require someone to update their profile to show gender (male) prior to crediting the affiliate???

You are being accused of something very specific and demanding to see his account prior to responding to this accusation seems pretty evasive.

99.9% of the dating programs now have something "special" to break even.

It's a reality now sadly

I never thought that they will do this if ever this is true!

If this is true its total bullshit is there any honest people left or was there any to begin with

imagine how much money webmasters have lost because of this if it were true. really sad...

2012 is when my dating income started dropping even though the traffic quality and amount were constant.

Lets see what DG say - They wont be around for a few hours yet...

They are one of the most used and top performing adult dating sponsors online today with many of the best converting SOI and DOI offers. Their sites are also marketed by countless 3rd party networks and all over the most expensive poc traffic sources in the adult market.

So here's an idea. Abandon your retarded fantasies about why you fail at everything and spend more time thinking about chasing Dollars rather than about how you think someone might be "stealing" pennies.

I understand that not everyone in life gets to be an astronaut or cowboy or a famous rock star but some of you could either at least try to better yourselves or... just start being honest and give up and call it a life.

Btw, tofu has no clue who I am other than being a retarded Skype name in his contacts. Before I sent even a single click, he was on the ball, got me set up with what I asked for in minutes. He's always available and eager to help. If you actually had a question, he could answer it and help you. If your complaint is about something that affects everyone including those paying top dollars for clicks and still double and triple their money, then you should seriously consider calling it a life.

Simply put - If a sign up needs to fill in even a portion of the profile after double opt-in to get paid then the program is not 'as sold' - That's simple...

If that applies to single opt-in then there is no difference between single and double - That's simple as well.....

You then have to ask 'Do DG give me more $s for my traffic than anyone else' - Simple...

'They do pay me more but I can't trust them to report correct stats' - Not so simple.....

They all shave affiliates, there is no system to control that.

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1) payouts are always negotiated with every sponsor
2) it all is what it is.
3) many people are making 4/5 figures a day with the same exact sites and programs others complain about every single day..... it's a choice as to how one wants to spend their time and energy.

There aren't many left. Especially as you move up the ladder.

I know what you are saying - I agree - There has to be an element of trust though...

Personally, I would rather earn a few $s less and deal with a sponsor that I trust 100%.....

Remember that not all affiliates on GFY are 'Whales' and they (me) need to trust what we are told...

Edit: That is aimed industry wide - Not at DG - We will see what they have to say later.

So what you are saying is that webmasters should turn a blind eye to money being stolen and just work on sending more traffic to compensate for lost revenue?

What a stupid post.

Agree, what a retard.

In fairness to DG, this is only for their new webcam ppl that they just rolled out and have only been offering to a few webmasters so I doubt that many have been affected.

Yes. If a bad sponsor would cheat you out of 20% of your signups at five a month what makes you think they wouldn't cheat you out of 80% of your signups at 50 a month? Sometimes affiliates are quite naive. You can never trust a crook to be anything other than a crook.

The male only rule is for dating as well...

I have looked at a few of the sign up pages and it seems they all ask for gender - It will be interesting to see what they say.....

I'm not going to condemn them yet...

If a man steals your car radio do you still invite him into your house thinking it's okay because he's never stolen anything from your home before, only your car? I don't know what is true here but if it's shown that these type of shenanigans occurred then it's a black mark on the entire program and everything else that they own or will own.

Datinggold is a pleasure to work with . They are very good at getting back and staying on top of things.

It seems like a mix up to me.
Good luck

Well for dating it would make a lot more sense as completing a profile is something an active user would fill out after signing up. However, a webcam profile is generally not something a free user is going to go in and edit after signing up for a free account.

The few dating promo pages I just looked at ask what gender - So that's not a problem...

The issue with the cam sites could be connected to that - If the cam sites are not asking on promo pages about gender then I can see that being an issue if they need to confirm they are male before payment.....

That could be a case of them applying old rules to a new program where it doesn't fit.

That's exactly what I was thinking occurred. Although for years DG did have a $1 ppl for Webcamclub, but I don't recall the rules having the "male" profile stipulation.

The funniest part d these discussions as with most in adult is that instead of rigorous testing, understanding the data and getting your conversions from 1:100 to 1:10 on the same traffic - you guys will waste time accusing people of stealing to explain your failure. You control what you do. You are responsible for the outcome.

... "Between stimulous and response, there is a space.. The choices you make in that space will ultimately determine your quality of life". You can bitch, whine and complain and blame others, or you could deeper your time to understanding why some people are extremely successful, consistently, over long periods of time and why others leave nothing but a wake of failure, blame and excuses.

Who says we don't do that?

I've answered that, in my first response. Let me take you all through the http://webcamclub.com signup process, so there is no confusion. This is the same
process we use to verify that pixels are firing:

1. User lands on your user page.

2. Member simply signs up, putting in his/her user name, password, email address and
date of birth [this would be where a single opt join would happen, if WCC offered SOI].

3. Member must go to his/her email account that he/she used to sign up, via your
landing page. There is a big blue button, prompting the user to confirm the sign up.

4. User clicks the button and is whisked away to a confirmation page [this is where the
pixel fires, if one has been implemented. Thus, giving the affiliate/pub credit for 1 (one)
double opt-in webcamclub lead and is tracked in DG stats page, under "Lead", appearing up to 15 minutes after lead was confirmed.

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The gender has nothing to do with an affiliate or pub receiving credit for a double opt-in lead, for webcamclub. The "males only" rule applies to our dating program and is not
applicable on our webcams, because gender is irrelevant. It's turning them into paying
customers that we are focused on doing.

Perfect - Thanks for clearing that up....

Makes sense :thumbsup

There it is.

Thanks for the clarification.