Arizona the best state to live in now? Says fuck you to illegals.

[KillerK]

A federal court UPHELD my Executive Order and Arizona's law denying driver's licenses to illegal aliens who President Obama has allowed to remain in our country under his outrageous deferred action program.
The court ruled that Obama?s program DOES NOT preempt Arizona?s ability to determine who can receive a driver?s license.
This is a great victory for state?s rights and the rule of law!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0DY01D20130517

[tfs]

Yay for you! You go boy! You GO!

[xNetworx]

Can they at least get a state ID so they can do porn?

[grumpy]

they will drive anyway so more uncovered accidents, yeah, this solves it. Great victory

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by grumpy

they will drive anyway so more uncovered accidents, yeah, this solves it. Great victory

They probably weren't going to get insurance anyway.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by KillerK

A federal court UPHELD my Executive Order and Arizona's law denying driver's licenses to illegal aliens who President Obama has allowed to remain in our country under his outrageous deferred action program.
The court ruled that Obama?s program DOES NOT preempt Arizona?s ability to determine who can receive a driver?s license.
This is a great victory for state?s rights and the rule of law!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0DY01D20130517

a country that doesn't respect it's borders, respect it's culture and people won't last

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by grumpy

they will drive anyway so more uncovered accidents, yeah, this solves it. Great victory

I am dead set against illegals being able to get a full time DL in the US.

With that said, years ago when I was in college here in California I witnessed a hit and run accident. I was at a stop light, saw a car hit another car and then quickly leave. I gave chase (breaking dozens of laws in the process) and eventually we were able to stop them. It turns out everyone in the car was in the US illegally. They didn't stop because they didn't have insurance and would have been deported.

[L-Pink]

Just curious, How many countries are there where if I sneak into them I can expect to get a drivers license and other assorted benefits vs having my ass jailed or deported?

.

[adulttraffic]

Originally Posted by KillerK

A federal court UPHELD my Executive Order and Arizona's law denying driver's licenses to illegal aliens who President Obama has allowed to remain in our country under his outrageous deferred action program.
The court ruled that Obama?s program DOES NOT preempt Arizona?s ability to determine who can receive a driver?s license.
This is a great victory for state?s rights and the rule of law!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0DY01D20130517

I would have to agree with laws like this. I myself, have married offshore and paid a HUGE fee to bring my wife here legally. It makes me feel like a idiot spending 00,000k when all these people do is walk across the desert. Send all of them back on the next boat or plane available.

[adulttraffic]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Just curious, How many countries are there where if I sneak into them I can expect to get a drivers license and other assorted benefits vs having my ass jailed or deported?

.

The answer to that is 0

[Robbie]

We should build a big wall! And then have guys with machine guns on it to keep those evil Mexicans out!

We could call it "The Berlin Wall" and form an "Iron Curtain" and...oh, wait a minute, I forgot...we were against that kind of thing.

Sorry, my bad.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Just curious, How many countries are there where if I sneak into them I can expect to get a drivers license and other assorted benefits vs having my ass jailed or deported?

.

not any of the European countries - that's sure.

we put them in camps instead

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Robbie

We should build a big wall! And then have guys with machine guns on it to keep those evil Mexicans out!

We could call it "The Berlin Wall" and form an "Iron Curtain" and...oh, wait a minute, I forgot...we were against that kind of thing.

Sorry, my bad.

i think you just found the solution - make Mexico the 51st state and no one will be illegal anymore

reminds me of great song btw

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Robbie

We should build a big wall! And then have guys with machine guns on it to keep those evil Mexicans out!

We could call it "The Berlin Wall" and form an "Iron Curtain" and...oh, wait a minute, I forgot...we were against that kind of thing.

Sorry, my bad.

[Lace]

In Maryland they can get full drivers licenses, discounted tuition, assistance for food and child care, etc. Almost anything they want. Absolutely ridiculous.

Meanwhile to compensate for their discounted tuition, rates just went up 3-6% this year. Gotta love it.

[adendreams]

YAY LOOK AT ME!!! IM a RACIST!! WEEEEE

[Lace]

Originally Posted by adendreams

YAY LOOK AT ME!!! IM a RACIST!! WEEEEE

Idiot.

.

[curtisphoto]

Originally Posted by Robbie

We should build a big wall! And then have guys with machine guns on it to keep those evil Mexicans out!

We could call it "The Berlin Wall" and form an "Iron Curtain" and...oh, wait a minute, I forgot...we were against that kind of thing.

Sorry, my bad.

Big difference, the walls you mentioned were to keep people IN, totally different than walls that keep people OUT.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by curtisphoto

Big difference, the walls you mentioned were to keep people IN, totally different than walls that keep people OUT.

Yeah...have you driven down to Mexico lately?

I drove in to Tijuana from San Diego.
It's a nightmare going both ways.

And if you don't think the "Iron Curtain" wasn't there to keep people OUT then you are very mistaken.

"Westerners" didn't travel to Russia or any of the Eastern European blocks back in the Cold War days.

Just saying...wall do keep people out, but they do also keep us IN.

Mexicans have come across that border freely since the beginning of our country. It's only the last decade that all of this "border security" suddenly became a "problem".

The only "problem" I see is that U.S. drug laws have created a lot of violence. It used to be centered in Colombia so we didn't notice it as much.

But then we sent our military down to Colombia to help bust up the drug cartels there.

So now the Mexicans have taken that business over.

We reap what we sew with our constant interference in other countries and our govt's insistence on trying to tell people what they can and can't do in their personal lives.

[pimpmaster9000]

god damned "illegal" immigrants...fuckers...don't they know the founding fathers got a theft permit before they "legally" stole the land form the natives and committed treason towards their home countries? fuck don't they have any respect towards the white person???...

somebody should explain the rules to them: when the "founding fathers" do it its called: "fighting for freedoms" but when mexicans want to do the EXACT SAME MOTHER FUCKING THING it is "illegal immigration"

fuckers have no respect for US culture...

reminds me of that episode of south park where white people call themselves natives of hawaii if they have the "mahallo rewards card" LOL

ah the US double standard...always good for a laugh

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Just curious, How many countries are there where if I sneak into them I can expect to get a drivers license and other assorted benefits vs having my ass jailed or deported?

.

we don't even have that in the UK, although you wouldn't be deported either, you'd just get given directions to the nearest benefits office.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

saw them a few times in concert, I think I still have one of their t-shirts somewhere.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

god damned "illegal" immigrants...fuckers...don't they know the founding fathers got a theft permit before they "legally" stole the land form the natives and committed treason towards their home countries? fuck don't they have any respect towards the white person???...

somebody should explain the rules to them: when the "founding fathers" do it its called: "fighting for freedoms" but when mexicans want to do the EXACT SAME MOTHER FUCKING THING it is "illegal immigration"

fuckers have no respect for US culture...

reminds me of that episode of south park where white people call themselves natives of hawaii if they have the "mahallo rewards card" LOL

ah the US double standard...always good for a laugh

yes the ONLY land on EARTH not stolen from somebody is Israel... G-D gave the land to the Jews

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

yes the ONLY land on EARTH not stolen from somebody is Israel... G-D gave the land to the Jews

deflecting the argument and saying "everybody does it" actually strengthens my argument...if everybody does it and immigrates who are you to tell the mexicans they can not do EXACTLY what your forefathers did?

now go back and bathe in the double standard...

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yeah...have you driven down to Mexico lately?

I drove in to Tijuana from San Diego.
It's a nightmare going both ways.

And if you don't think the "Iron Curtain" wasn't there to keep people OUT then you are very mistaken.

"Westerners" didn't travel to Russia or any of the Eastern European blocks back in the Cold War days.

Just saying...wall do keep people out, but they do also keep us IN.

Mexicans have come across that border freely since the beginning of our country. It's only the last decade that all of this "border security" suddenly became a "problem".

The only "problem" I see is that U.S. drug laws have created a lot of violence. It used to be centered in Colombia so we didn't notice it as much.

But then we sent our military down to Colombia to help bust up the drug cartels there.

So now the Mexicans have taken that business over.

We reap what we sew with our constant interference in other countries and our govt's insistence on trying to tell people what they can and can't do in their personal lives.

Normally I agree with most of what you say, but this topic you are wrong.

Illegal people can attend public school, use public hospitals, college etc. Why should I have to pay for medical if they don't.

They also don't get ticketed if they are caught speeding.

And the big kicker, they get fake social security cards, and then get a refund.

[KillerK]

I should add, that I think the path to legal citizenship should be easier and more streamlined. If people want to come here, they should be able to.

[DBS.US]

"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by KillerK

Normally I agree with most of what you say, but this topic you are wrong.

Illegal people can attend public school, use public hospitals, college etc. Why should I have to pay for medical if they don't.

They also don't get ticketed if they are caught speeding.

And the big kicker, they get fake social security cards, and then get a refund.

They shouldn't be able to get medical care that they don't pay for...but neither should anybody else, in my opinion.

As for public schools...only property owners pay for that through property tax. So I'm already paying for lots of "legal" U.S. citizens kids to go to school anyway.

And yes...they DO get a ticket if they get pulled over for speeding. I don't know where you are getting that idea, but I guarantee you that the fucking asshole cops everywhere I've ever lived ain't gonna let nobody go.

I don't know how many "illegal" Mexicans get "fake" social security cards and get a "refund".
Last I heard there are like 17 million of them that the U.S. govt. THINKS live in the U.S.

Maybe a tiny percentage of them get social security cards that are "fake"? I bet a lot more "legal" U.S. citizens scam fake social security cards...

I do know this for a fact...I grew up in Florida. My family was one of the biggest citrus harvesters in the world during the 1970's and 1980's.
If it weren't for "illegal" Mexicans working those groves...your orange juice would be so expensive you couldn't drink it.

Then I moved to Miami and saw the same thing with the bean crop down in Homestead.

Yeah...shut off the border. And then watch our food prices rise astronomically.
The poor people in this country who can barely afford to eat now will suffer even more.

Mexican immigrants have freely walked across that border and done the hard labor that most folks do NOT want to do since the very beginning of the United States (and of course they freely walked across BEFORE the U.S. existed as well)

This is the U.S. govt. using nationalistic pride and subtle racism to further THEIR agenda. (failed war on drugs and a further erosion of our freedom).

We are already isolated. We are a country that REFUSES to be multi-lingual. Go to any other country...the citizens speak several languages and have since birth.
When I travel to Europe, the Bahamas, Mexico, Costa Rica, South America....I feel like the stupidest person there.

Everyone else is speaking English, German, Dutch, French, etc.
It's embarrassing that I can't.

So let's further isolate ourselves. Let's drive food prices up!

And for God's sake let's keep the "War On Drugs" in full swing to use as an excuse to shut ourselves off from our neighbors, search citizens on airplanes (war on terror my ass), and keep that multi-billion dollar prison industry stocked with "customers".