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04-30-2013, 11:13 AM
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If porn is all free now then why do studios still film them?
Why are studios still filming and producing videos if no one is buying them? How are they getting money to pay the models, pay the editors, etc etc.
And then people at home watch it all for free? Where does the money come from? |
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04-30-2013, 11:18 AM
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People are still paying for porn. Tubes are just cutting out what we used to call an "affiliate".
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04-30-2013, 11:24 AM
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Think about 'scaling'...
If you have a site with 100 members, your not gonna wanna spend out on production, as you will get little return. But if you have 5000 members, you'll get your return, just by producing new content - EVEN IF DOES GET STOLEN - Cause you are earning much more than you are spending to keep YOUR members happy... The guy with 5000 members looks at his stuff being stolen as 'free promo ads' (Cutting out affiliates) The guy with 100 members cries buckets about the tubes... Go figure... And, FWIW, I DO come from a production background... . |
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04-30-2013, 11:27 AM
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hey CS, you should keep making comments like this one...i almost forgot about your poo fetish while reading it.
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04-30-2013, 11:31 AM
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04-30-2013, 11:43 AM
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Preconception is reality - To a point - So I am the fat losser 'poo guy' who cant afford a pot to piss in... But In truth, I'm not - I've been extremely successful in adult. I've been in it FULL TIME since 1986... I am pretty much retired - As a multi millionaire... *** There was a time on GFY when I used to really TRY and help... But, many people would 'poo-poo' what I advised  Despite the fact that I was openly telling them the truth. Openly telling them how to make money. Openly giving away what WORKED FOR ME and is PROVEN TO WORK FOR OTHERS...But.. According to people who had just started up in 2007 / 2008 - I was totally wrong, and... (Wait for it...) I was - ALLEGEDLY - Talking Shit... Eventually I got fed up, and gave up trying to help - And instead - DECIDED TO TALK SHIT... - Hence the 'Poo' cause thats what people think of my legit advise and opinions... I'm NOT saying - LISTEN TO ME ! I KNOW BEST! Just - LISTEN TO ME ! I CAN HELP! and I DO help. MANY people here hit me up on my email, about various things, and I go out of my WAY to help as much as I can... All the time.... But there yah go - I aint gonna waste my time trying to ram my knowledge down peoples throats... Why should I? Especially when I offer it for free - Yet people run about like headless chickens, telling me I'm wrong! So thats why I too, now like 'poo'... *** = The reason I say 'I cant afford' this that and the other...  Back to normal - I LIKE POO! |
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04-30-2013, 11:45 AM
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04-30-2013, 11:48 AM
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If movies are all free now from torrent sites and YouTube why are movies still being made?
The question is stupid. People will pay for a product if they enjoy that product and want to support the industry. Others will pay because they don't know how to get porn for free. Some like local storage (they might travel a lot and not want to watch porn using hotel wifi) and others might just want some of the extras that porn sites give you. Porn paysites are convenience for a price. I don't think any tube site hosts 1080p quality videos, either. |
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04-30-2013, 11:49 AM
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04-30-2013, 11:51 AM
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The other day I heard Howard Stern mention his favorite movie is Jenna Jameson's "The Masseuse", so I looked it up. The whole video is free here http://www.tube8.com/blowjob/masseuse/969971/ lol I can watch the whole thing and not pay anything. I dont have to sit through commercials like YouTube, I dont even have to give my email. I get the full hour and a half expensively produced popular video for free. But I had to pay for the Pam Anderson Tommy Lee video. oh and torrent sites are safe to use and not loaded with viruses now? Thats news to me. |
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04-30-2013, 11:51 AM
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I actually enjoy almost every CS post
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04-30-2013, 11:54 AM
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So Fucking What
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04-30-2013, 11:55 AM
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I used to have to get in my car, drive to blockbuster, and pay to rent a VHS tape of the latest movie! These days I just sit at home, stream it to my huge flatscreen, for less cash than the gas and rental cost... Yes, I *could* torrent it, or watch it in poor rez on a tube... But why bother? Go figure... |
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04-30-2013, 11:58 AM
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04-30-2013, 12:03 PM
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 I dont have an office - I'm retired... But in truth - I dont have nor want a flash lifestyle... Perhaps thats why I have been able to accumulate wealth? I dunno - TBH, being utterly truthful... Its a pain in the ass. I have zero friends, cause everyone wants money from me People I went to school with have done FUCK ALL with their lives, yet I went to the USA in 98 and worked my ass off... Made my money - Got deported - Returned home, and they are still on benefits So, cause I got off my ass, earn't cash, and worked hard - I should JUST GIVE IT to them? For FREE???? YEAH RIGHT... - AS IF...  But TBH, if you dont wanna believe me - Then Fine - Whatever... It makes no diff to my life... I'd post a scan of my most recent bank account details if required but I would HAVE to photoshop out the personal details, (For Obvious security reasons) then you would all say - ITS PHOTOSHOPPED ! So, in otherwords, I cant win either way. Believe me or dont. Up to you - I just like poo... |
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04-30-2013, 12:08 PM
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 The delivery and payment method changed - Not the product... |
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04-30-2013, 12:17 PM
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04-30-2013, 12:19 PM
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04-30-2013, 12:34 PM
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You enjoy being a hidden gem, huh? I've seen more than one of these "i play the poo guy but im actually a player on the low" posts...
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04-30-2013, 12:42 PM
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04-30-2013, 01:03 PM
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CS, I think you might be full of shit. bada bing!
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04-30-2013, 01:03 PM
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btw. this is kind of interesting video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1g1tliiUh1g
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04-30-2013, 01:24 PM
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04-30-2013, 01:30 PM
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04-30-2013, 01:30 PM
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As someone who has known CS for MANY years I can tell you that what he is telling you is, in fact, true. All of it.
He is one of the nicest coolest guys i ever met in this biz. I did always wonder about the poo thing...Now I know Wish ya well WB...
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04-30-2013, 01:37 PM
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I think the first two posts contain a good amount of truth and explanation.
1. It is cutting out the affiliate. 2. Things still work out for you if you can do more volume than you did before under the previous conditions. The catch though is that you need more traffic than ever before. If you have 100 times the traffic you did in 2005 then you are still more profitable today even if your CTR is 1/3rd of what it used to be and your conversion ratios are double or triple what they were in 2005. Now here's why it's bad for most people in our industry. 1. Obviously this is bad news for affiliates. That's obvious. But it's also bad news for everyone else other than those who are increasing gaining traffic and consolidating market share. Why? Because as the traffic sources consolidate Capitalism dictates that those needing that traffic such as sponsors will meet increasingly unfavorable terms. With affiliates the traffic was broken up among thousands or tens of thousands of people. You had many options. Now (or soon) you have but a handful of options and if it follows history the deal will become worse for you over time. I'm not even going to speak here about the devaluation of the product or how the loss of affiliates and competition hurts other businesses such as domainers and script writers. But it does.2. This is great as long as you can keep increasing your traffic at a rate higher than the decline in CTR and conversions. But how long is this sustainable for you? That is the question. And the points I raised above also come into play. If a major source of your traffic suddenly wants 30% more from you and there are no other options what other choices will you have? You have to keep that volume to make it worth it for you otherwise you will lose money. I'm just an affiliate who has been in the industry over a decade. But I used to own a small sponsor program back in the day. I don't know everything but this is honestly how I see it.
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For most affiliate sites I don't believe they are sustainable. They aren't "sticky" enough. Surfers need a reason to visit and to come back (this is the key!). Sponsor content doesn't compare to what pornhub and the others offer. The crutch for the last several years has been Google traffic. But Panda and then Penguin hurt that for many affiliates so they are starved for new traffic and the old visitors aren't coming back because their sites aren't "sticky". They don't offer anything the surfer wants. The surfer wants mroe than what the old TGPs and CJ tubes full of sponsor content can provide. The biggest challenge for a porn site affiliate is to offer something of value to the surfer which makes them want to come back. If you can't do that you will be fucked when you lose your traffic sources like Google. The next biggest challenge is monetizing what you have.
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04-30-2013, 01:55 PM
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studios still sell the soft content that tube sites dont want to use.
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Thing is, I am just me - I have gone OUT OF MY way to help in the past - Cause its no skin off my nose - The people I help are not taking money out of MY pocket... Yet when I help? I am 'talking shit...' But bottom line - I have been in this biz since 86 - WORKED REAL HARD and it paid off... No secrets - No Schemes - Just hard work for a long time |
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Well, I kinda know I'm hoping to have my second (American) Wife come and join me in the UK when my elderly mother passes... Then she will assist me in accommodating you, Baddog & JFK (If you can all get along) for a couple of weeks of 1st class fun - all expenses paid |
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 Join the BEST cam affiliate program on the internet! I've referred over $1.7mil in spending this past year, you should join in.  I make a lot more money in the medical field in a lab now, fuck you guys. Don't ask me to come back, but do join Chaturbate in my sig, it still makes bank without me touching shit for years.. 
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04-30-2013, 02:49 PM
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It feels good to take you off ignore CS. These are the posts of yours I always enjoyed.
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lol nobody asks me for shit but it would be nice to trade places with one of you guys sometimes... all i can do is keep trying though
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CS is now my Hero.
Why, cause he's successful and believes in his shit both figuratively and literally.
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Well, makes no sense to film a busty hot blonde getting anal fucked and then put it in the members area.
But filming 3 women kicking a guy's balls and then fisting his asshole deep, then selling the scene in clips4store, could make the shooter, probably 50K income for that scene alone. Do the math. |
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04-30-2013, 10:47 PM
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I don't know who the fuck you heard that from cause I'm selling the shit out of porn sets and scenes.
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Thread of the year.
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jesus christ
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