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'ask to check' :1orglaugh the whole fucking point is that you are ordered around and spoken to like a piece of shit - who is saying they wouldn't let them in? I'll tell you this much though - would I fuck keep my hands on my head - I'm too much of a stubborn idiotic prick who doesn't care about consequences until it's way too late, to allow myself to be treated like that. One of my many downfalls. |
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So there must be videos of them doing this to many, many, many houses and not the one house in the same neighborhood the bomber was found that keeps circulating? Where are they?
People talk about the media selectively trying to make a point and then turn around and do it themselves and see no irony. People like to talk about the proof... where is the proof that they did not receive some kind of tip about that house? |
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In Boston they were looking for a suspected domestic terrorist. Much more important than anything going on in your house, unless the guy was in your house. People act like the police are some big, bad animal when many are just like us. The "militarization" that you see is for protection. They got billions in federal grants after 9/11 and wanted to beef up and look like military boys... that's more of a procurement issue than anything. They don't roll down the street each day like that; they use it to protect themselves when there is a perceived threat. If anyone bothered to read Top Secret America, the project by the Washington Post in 2010, you would have learned that most of these billions were wasted on toys they bring out for parades. State fusion centers have nothing to do and spend their time trolling for illegal craigslist ads. That's what happens when you give people tens of billions to spend without oversight. |
This is not okay at all...how is it even debatable?
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That is as disgusting and anti-American piece of "police work" as I've ever seen.
I can't believe that people say that is "okay". Definitely not the country I grew up in. That video looks like it could have been shot in 1950's Soviet Union. |
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Me, a sheep? If you only knew me... :winkwink: http://www.ohmagif.com/wp-content/up...need-to-go.gif :stoned ADG |
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You were there, you don't know what happened. You are making shit up just like the rest of the morons on this board. Unless your house is in Watertown and you were one of the people. Then shut the fuck up. I am not sure whats with the internet and making people into liars and tough guys. Its an amazing thing.. |
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Personally I would hate to be treated like that, really really hate it.. |
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if this was a test of martial law, it appears at this point that watertown passed. i'm more concerned with socal and lapd shooting random trucks and burning the perpetrator down in a cabin in *search* for c. dorner. where's everybody on that? / |
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I'm commenting on the video of the way those police are acting - how are you not understanding that? Do you even know what this thread is about? Are you high and/or drunk? What am I making up? I'm a liar and/or tough guy how? I was there, so I don't know what happened? Christ, such a fucked up post I'm not even sure why I responded... |
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And do they? Good job I didn't say you were one then, and merely asked instead. |
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why do we have any laws at all? why was there these fine laws saying 'police are unable to enter a residence without a warrant'? obviously the logic of 'if you have nothing to hide' applied just the same when the law was written as it does today if it was so important, why does the law exist. |
what pussies LOL
the police should do their job with courage and honor...if they are after somebody who is dangerous this does not mean they can act like highly armed pussies in armor and with air support... i like the police, I really do, but you have to have balls or GTFO... also I am disappointed by some americans how pussy they have become...one 19 year old boy and shit gets gestapo...fucking media frenzy and their pussy ass coward audience...seriously a guy with a pressure cooker and you send 30K cops? :1orglaugh they have conditioned you to live in FEAR...you fear the DANGER :1orglaugh |
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The people in the house know if they are being held hostage or not, or if they are harboring a fugitive or not. And if the answer to both is NO, then being treated in that manner is still apparently OK for many people. My comment has nothing to do with the police perspective or what they could be thinking. The question is: Do you the home occupant, think it is OK to have yourself and family (kids, wife, elderly parents) treated in that manner, if you have done nothing wrong, are not hiding the suspect inside your house, and are not being held hostage by the suspect? |
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It goes back to the whole idea of respect being earned, not given. It's just impossible to have any respect for abusive assholes. Seeing them be dicks just makes many people dislike them that much more. The military gear doesn't help much either. It is very intimidating, which obviously is the point. What happened to good old fashioned police uniforms? The show of overwhelming force in full combat fatigues is also something that rubs me the wrong way. That is how you go to war, not deal with innocent American citizens in their own home. It's just too intimidating and really sends out the wrong message for Americans. As posted above in the Blues Brother clip, it was funny then and absurd to think about. But now it's reality. :1orglaugh |
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I wonder if any of these people will be visited again or looked into after something noticed in their home. I can't fathom the nerves of the attic hydro grower when he saw the troops going door to door. :1orglaugh You KNOW someone in at least one of those houses is growing. |
i just watched the entire video clip again, in full screen, like the 1st time, so 3x total.
1st thing, they didn't shoot the dog. :-) we've all heard too many of those stories. next, i'm really trying to see where this particular crew got so far out of hand. is it where the one guy lifts back up the 1st guy's arms over his head? because after that is just the authorities letting each one of them run down the sidewalk to the safe area, just like the high schoolers running out of columbine. if someone has some specific timepoints they can point out, i'd take a gander. since this video is in the public domain, it makes sense that the authorities would be forced to confront it and handle it if it's deemed this outfit acted billigerently. |
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I have a big problem with it.
and it all comes down to the fact that once the government starts to usurp your constitutional rights they dont stop until its gone, and at that point the only way to get it back is at the barrel of a gun. No knock warrants and warrant less searches are a bad idea, yesterday it was in the name of drugs, today its in the name of terrorism, now they add DUI where does it stop? Is it not better to let a dui suspect or delay catching this kid a day or two or even a week or two than it is to have the constitution trampled by Jack booted thugs and cabbies with guns? Is the so called security you are getting worth the price you are paying? The fourth amendment makes it hard to prosecute a criminal FOR A REASON...It should always be hard to deprive someone of their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I am glad they got the two asshats but I am not at all happy with how they went about it. In the end The FBI and the Boston PD did more to abolish freedom than the terroists did. |
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Those people were clearly not the suspect. They were in their home minding their own business and got pulled out like that. Maybe this is the only house this happened to, or many 100s had this happen, we don't know, but I can't help but think how terrifying this would be for children. In contrast to how you see other videos where the police are friendly, not barking, not patting people down, this one really looks bad. No one who is not a criminal or suspect of a crime should ever have multiple guns pointed at them, forced out of their home, yelled at, told to put their hands over the head, and then patted down for weapons. Of course it's possible they had a tip about this house, we can't rule anything out to be fair, but it does look like they were being treated poorly for no reason. Why not a normal knock on the door (not a fist pound), an officer kindly explains the situation, asks them to please step outside while they do a quick search, and then that is that. No need to treat them like they did something wrong or are even suspected of doing something wrong. |
It is interesting that all that shit did nothing. It was a tip when a gy saw blood on his boat tarp. Where was this kid going to go? He is 19 and known. It was a matter of time.
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Clips with no context are useless...
Watch a mushroom cloud from WWII with no context and you'd say wow that's overkill too. Put it in context and the exact same video becomes a lot more reasonable. |
I hope someone sues for violation of every right known to man
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