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Old 04-19-2013, 06:58 AM   #1
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In the middle of all the tragedy, Republicans vote no on background checks.

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WASHINGTON (AP) ? Senate Republicans backed by a small band of rural-state Democrats scuttled the most far-reaching gun control legislation in two decades Wednesday, rejecting tighter background checks for buyers and a ban on assault weapons as they spurned pleas from families of victims of last winter's school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
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A ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines also fell in a series of showdown votes four months after a gunman killed 20 elementary school children and six staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary.

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This, despite the fact that more than 80% of Americans favour background checks and limited ammunition magazines.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:02 AM   #2
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This, despite the fact that more than 80% of Americans favour background checks and limited ammunition magazines.
No we don't. Someone has purchased a lot of airtime on CNN and MSNBC to say we do but we don't. And those who do support "common sense legislation" know very well that there is no common sense to be had in our government, and the best they can do is enforce existing laws and leave shit alone.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:03 AM   #3
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:19 AM   #4
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:19 AM   #5
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This, despite the fact that more than 80% of Americans favour background checks and limited ammunition magazines.
Background checks already exist you ignorant fuckwit - try buying a firearm without one and see how far you get. Stop believing all the crap spewed out by the libtard media. And btw Harry Reid also voted against this measure

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Old 04-19-2013, 07:21 AM   #6
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No we don't. Someone has purchased a lot of airtime on CNN and MSNBC to say we do but we don't. And those who do support "common sense legislation" know very well that there is no common sense to be had in our government, and the best they can do is enforce existing laws and leave shit alone.
Actually the existing laws arent worth shit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/op...laws.html?_r=0

"To dig deeper into this confusion, we introduced a new series of questions. We asked this same group of voters whether or not specific laws were already on the books. Of the 50 percent of people who prefer enforcement over new laws ? over half of whom are gun owners ? 48 percent told us that federal laws prohibit the purchase of a weapon privately or at a gun show without a background check, while 10 percent simply admitted not knowing the rules. In other words, about 6 out of 10 people who believe we just need to do a better job of enforcing existing laws don?t realize that those laws are far weaker than they think. And just under half of those who want better enforcement don?t know that military-style assault weapons are, in fact, legal.

A clear majority said they believe that the sale of guns to people on the terrorist watch list is banned. Another 29 percent said they don?t know. Such sales are not banned, and the Government Accountability Office has reported that in 2010 alone 247 people on the terrorist watch list passed a background check and legally purchased guns.

Similarly, 33 percent believe that federal law requires authorities to be notified when people purchase large amounts of ammunition in a short period ? also not the case ? and 42 percent don?t know whether it is illegal to buy ammunition over the Internet ? it isn?t.

The notion that all we need is better enforcement of our current federal laws has been a core argument of the gun lobby for years in its fight against sensible restrictions on guns in our communities. But that argument is a straw man. It masks the fact that many Americans don?t really know what gun laws are on the books and falsely construes that to mean they don?t want common-sense gun laws passed ? when they clearly do. What Americans strongly believe, and what is at the core of the president?s reform agenda, is that with rights come responsibilities.

Americans don?t believe changing the rules will prevent every murder or every act of mass violence. Rules will always be broken. Some people will always cheat on their taxes. Some people will always speed. But that doesn?t mean we shouldn?t have common-sense rules like speed limits or an income tax. Americans agree gun limits are needed, and at the very least, they expect a rational debate and a vote on it. It?s time to prove them right."
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more big gov taxes? of course they did
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:46 AM   #8
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I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want better background checks... It's just common sense. It's easier to buy a weapon designed to kill someone than it is to get a driver's license, and that's just fucking wrong.
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NRA members should be overthrowing their leaders since the members agree on the bg checks and ammo mag limits. Perhaps the spirit of the 2nd amendment is already dead. Or they're just weak and clingy.
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We already have enough fucking laws...
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Even if all of this weak shit had passed into law overnight, it still allowed sale with no BG checks to family members, neighbors and friends! Yes "friends"! You know how you figure out if someone is a friend? If the person wants to buy your gun. Hiya friend, that'll be 500 bucks. Thanks friend. YW friend.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:20 PM   #13
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This, despite the fact that more than 80% of Americans favour background checks and limited ammunition magazines.
I don't know where you are getting your numbers from but:

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n the AP-GfK poll, among independents, support for stricter gun laws dipped from 60 percent in January to 40 percent now. About three-fourths of Democrats supported them then and now, while backing among Republicans for looser laws about doubled to 19 percent.

The survey was conducted from April 11-15 by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Corporate Communications. It involved landline and cellphone interviews with 1,004 randomly chosen adults and had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.9 percentage points.
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