i always chuckle at how the conspiracists conveniently leave out the ussr moon landings, and just claim that the 1 usa landing, apollo 11 is a fake.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._sites.svg.png

nevermind the fact there were 19 landings on the moon by different countries, the usa is a big faker re: apollo 11

lolololololololhahahahahahahah

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All fake ofcourse.

No seriously, 9 out of 10 conspiracy nutters don't even realize there were way more than 1 landing.

that's a perfect example of something, but my posting crap? no.

more an example of reading comprehension.

ironically, it really does look like you sat there for 20+ minutes typing out how ridiculous conspiracy theorists are

I personally couldn't care less. But I will post a bunch of links and youtube videos for you if that helps?

There are a huge amount of debunking sites, covering pretty much every subject these guys bring up. Doesn't matter if it's Ancient Aliens, 9/11, Zeitgeist, whatever.

Yep. Six landings of men on the moon. All under Nixon. Zero under any other President, despite the fact the technology to land men on the moon 'already exists'.

Oh, the technology to land men on the moon existed in the 60s, and to film men on the moon, but the technology to film them on Earth didn't exist? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Thanks. Hadn't actually heard that one before.

See. Total lack of any proof that it's even possible to land men on the moon (even today, nevermind the 60s), let alone that it actually happened.

Great Article at Scientific American about why people believe conspiracy theories :

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...piracy-theoies

see? complete lack of preparation, couldn't even be bothered to google the film technology of the early 1970s.

not to mention a complete lack of comprehending the decade of work prior to whichever fucking president was elected at the time we finally put men on the moon,.
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that's not even adult level logic.

i had another chuckle realizing the conspiracist had to backtrack from his apollo 11 comment and update it with a conspiracy theory twisted comment after i informed him of more than 1 landing.

oh of course there were 6 landings but they were all under nixon, therefore......FAKE.

hahahahahahahahahahahah

that's some logic!

:1orglaugh

It's so fucking pathetic...
And these people have no shame whatsoever...they don't care.

since a lot of folks here are into video production::::::








?The later you were born,? Collins says, ?the more all-powerful movie magic seems.? Hollywood could now fake dozens of moon landings every day, but they didn?t always have that ability. Marshaling knowledge accrued over thirty years as a photographer, he addresses each of the points that moon-landing conspiracy theorists commonly cite as visual evidence of the supposed fraud. He also brings to bear facts from the history of video technology, such as 1969′s complete lack of the high-speed video cameras, needed to shoot the sort of slow motion necessary to create the illusion of low gravity. And what if they?d shot the entire Apollo 11 telecast on film instead? Collins also knows, and names, exactly the problems even the most ambitious, technologically advanced charlatans would have encountered

Imaging the amount of people involved in staging 6 moon landings...

That alone makes it beyond ridiculous.

Why People Reject Conspiracy Theories

1. Fear.
There are many dimensions to how fear blocks people from discovering, accepting, and telling the truth about 9/11.

The first dimension is cosmic. The official story about the most important socio-political event in modern history has been burned into the heart of American culture and Western civilization. America?s image of itself is wrapped up with the 9/11 fairy tale. For many, the fear of challenging the authenticity of the story is related to the fear of shaking up the cosmological scenery within one?s own mind that has been constructed by political leaders and the television.

The second dimension is social. People have a basic fear; they don?t want to be associated with those ?crazy conspiracy theorists and their paranoid views.? They want to stay within the safety of the tribe, and disowning the most sacred myths of one?s tribe goes beyond treachery; it is interpreted as spiritual suicide.

The third dimension is the most obvious one: the fear of death. The government is watching what you say, and read, and it knows what you think and believe. Most people naturally don?t want to stick the bullseye on their chest and yell out in the crowd, ?I don?t belong to you because I reject your lies and fables, now come and get me, punks.?

2. Ignorance.
Due to the systemic blackout of the evidence showing that the official 9/11 story is a lie, people just don?t know. Not only are they ignorant of the facts underlining the case of the global 9/11 truth and justice movement, but they are ignorant that there is even a media blackout.

Of course, the excuse of ignorance is harder to defend in the era of the Internet and new media. A lot of people who reject conspiracy theories are just too lazy to sit down and do the research for themselves.

3. A False Sense of Superiority And A False Sense of Knowledge.
The smugness of 9/11 truth deniers is hard to stomach. They actually look down on new information and new knowledge, which is strange to me. I value learning and am always open to new ideas and new ways of seeing the world.

When I came across ?9/11: The Road to Tyranny? by Alex Jones in February 2004 I was floored. I remember watching the hanging of Saddam on CNN a few months earlier and thinking, ?Wow, this Iraq War turned out to be alright, at least the Iraqi people got to see justice served.? But the discovery that the 9/11 story was an invented fable turned my goodwill towards the American government to absolute rage.

It was easy for me to rethink the purpose of the war on terror upon seeing the real facts about 9/11 laid out for the first time because I?m not an American so I don?t have any emotional stake in what the American government does. Americans are in a much more spiritually difficult place. The sin of 9/11 must be a heavy burden to carry for such a morally minded country and people.

This article is not about judging anyone or any country, but an attempt to understand why people react differently to the same information. Why do some people think they know how the world works and refuse to accept the validity of new worldviews, while others hunger for such awesome discoveries? I know how ignorant I am of the world, of history, and of mankind, so I?m comfortable with letting go of worldviews if the facts don?t fit.

4. Collective Brainwashing.
The brainwashing of America, Israel, the West, and the world since the false flag September 11 events is definitely one of the biggest reasons why people reject alternative interpretations of 9/11 and the war on terror. The nations of the world are living inside the big lie offered by the grand decoder of reality, who goes by the political name of the United States government. The spiritual name for this false decoder of reality is Satan, otherwise known as the accuser.

People live, breathe, and eat the 9/11 lie. It is a live virus that is inside their bodily organs and their digestive systems. A teaspoon of reason is not enough to treat the spiritual patient.

5. Institutional Silence And Cover-Up.
Academic, media, and governmental institutions in the West have all agreed to keep the truth about 9/11 a secret from the American people and the world.

The culture at the top of the top of modern American society and other societies as well operates on a basic principle: ?keep your mouth shut, or else.?

not 1 single item in that list allows for being factually right. not 1. there's no middle ground in trying to get to the *truth* in that. it's all defensive finger-pointing.......that right there tells normal adjusted folk something.

It used to upset me that people could be so simple minded and advertise the fact daily. Now I just feel sorry for people like wehateporn. Their simple naivety speaks volumes on their experiences in the World and life in general. I mean can you really imagine a life based on knowledge you obtained sitting at home and "researching" on youtube? It's really quite sad.

The first dimension is cosmic? - What?

Fairy tale? - Interesting choice of words since you just started another sentence referring to some kind of Cosmic Dimension don't you think?

Myths and Spiritual suicide? - Who's calling a real event a fairy tale again?

A lot of people who reject conspiracy theories are just too lazy to sit down and do the research for themselves. - Haha this is fucking hilarious!

Oh look Alex Jones is mentioned, Mayor of kookville and King of bullshit (ad hominem if you want, you love them, yet love using them yourself)

Fable now is it? OK then.

Americans are in a much more spiritually difficult place. The sin of 9/11 must be a heavy burden to carry for such a morally minded country and people? - Spiritually? Sin? and a burden?

The spiritual name for this false decoder of reality is Satan, otherwise known as the accuser. - There it is! The writer is clearly religious or believes Satan exists, possibly both.

That word spiritual again, they like that word.

What's your point, exactly? We could film men on the moon, but not on Earth? :1orglaugh Full marks for originality; I haven't encountered any "man on the moon" crank dumb enough to try and argue that one before.

:1orglaugh You're simply emphasizing the point. A decade of failure, followed by multiple successes under the most crooked President in history, followed by four more decades of failure. That in itself should tell any non-crazy person something.

Nice attempt at trolling, but I think you'll find other people can read here, even if you can't. I made no "comment" even remotely like Apollo 11 being the only moon landing. In fact the person who brought up such an obviously absurd idea (that I've never heard anyone try to make before) was you.

Friendly hint: lying about what other people have said, particularly in a forum that other people can read, merely demonstrates your total ignorance on the subject. Typical delusional k00k behavior. :1orglaugh

As for your weird tangent about the USSR and other countries - nobody questions landing metal on the moon. The issue is about whether humans have been to the moon, which no other country even claims to have done. You really don't have the first clue, do you?

Yawn. Come back when you have the intelligence and maturity to address what has actually been said.

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yeah, no. apparently you missed the topic of this thread and my comment about you conspiracists sapping the fun out of everything. i prefer fun.

the funniest part of this thread is that conspiracists are even in here spewing their bs in spite of mountains of facts against their position right in this thread. and they just keep coming with the same nonsense.

i want to lol but i'm embarrassed for them. kinda sad rly.

Nah, the funniest part is watching you spew out more posts than anyone else in this thread, other than FootMan5, incessantly whining about "conspiracy nuts", and then, when confronted to do exactly what you expect "conspiracy nuts" to do (back up your beliefs with hard evidence), your laughable evasion that you "prefer fun" (whatever that's supposed to mean in this context).

i enjoy this thread and the op makes a valid statement, the fact that a couple of nutters are in here embarrassing themselves is just icing on the thread cake for me, that's fun to watch!

debating the same old shit 12 years in a row with a bunch of people that can't even back their shit up with a simple goog search, clinging to some physics they can't understand re: 7wtc. that's too easy, not fun.

the other thing that cracks my shit up re: nutters is their incessant requirement that you figure out for them what they don't understand.

i don't think anyone thinks there are no such thing as conspiracies...but you see what they post. it should be obvious why they get the flack that they do.

http://debunkatron.com/

Read for yourself. There are plenty of other sites like this one. 9/11, Moon, JFK etc. are all listed there.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
that's funny shit.

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The only posts in this thread about WTC7 are yours, dyna_mo. Nobody else has mentioned it.

yes, i post my own comments, unlike *truthers* who simply regurgitate shit they have no idea about.

Was this a serious post? I thought you were kidding when you asked if I wanted you to post some "links and Youtube videos".

Isn't there a single anti-conspiracy nutjob here who is capable of making point on their own?

That's funny, because further up this very page you talk about backing shit up with a 'simple Google search', which is presumably how you found the Wikipedia image and the SG Collins Youtube video that you regurgiated on Page 2.

Chemtrails: Just misunderstood contrails (condensation trails).

oddly not one mention cloud seeding?

how would a site dedicated to debunking theories, not touch at all on the fact that 'chemtrails' could be equated to cloud seeding?

typical truther incapable of seeing the truth of a matter. no one said every post is unique, of course facts require bolstering with support, or for truthers, a youtube video for 100% proofs.

It's amazing how people can't see what's going on in the world

The government lies, lies and lies some more then people believe their "official story", when they would NEVER tell the truth to the general public

yes, i remember when i was a child and realized the 1st time i was lied to, i had a choice then to take the massive step from there to believing everything is a lie.

even at 6 or 7 years old, common sense and logic would not let me make that leap.

so fabricating your own truth is better how? i don't buy what i'm sold but i'm also not creating my own reality based on misinformation spread like rumors.

No what's funny is, you and other conspiracy people do excactly that
. You're telling me you don't read or watch anything before making your own mind up or what? You was just sitting there eating your cereal one day, suddenly you thought to yourself; "I know what happened to JFK"? Pathetic arguement.

I've read and heard the shit spewn by Jones and Icke among many others.

You seem to hate people quoting sources of proof, not surprising. Do some reasearch on your beliefs.

Want to find some that do? Wouldn't betting it's out there somewhere.

I wouldn't mind betting there is some truth to weather alteration, mainly because it is all over the internet on experiments to try and stop hurricanes, or create rain water in drought conditions.

Sorry I forgot, they wouldn't be doing something constructive would they? It has to be them trying to poison us or create massive storms to wipe people out.

No one knows what happened to JFK or 9/11 or anything except for the people who carries it out. However, if you believe the "official story" when it comes to these events, the you have the brain the size of a pea

There's no fabricating what goes on in the world

There is the slave class and the ruling class. The ruling class does everything they have to do to maintain their rule over the slave class. Nothing has changed in thousands of years...yet the slaves will vehemently attack other slaves who point out this obvious fact.

here, i'll show you how easy it is to debunk a conspiracy theory using conspiracy theorist mentality, let's pick icke's theory that we are descendants of lizards.

easy.

lizards are cold-blooded, so in cold weather they move sluggishly. it's fair to say that some of these lizard descendants would become weathermen. obviously, the lizard weathermen would not say "it's cold outside." they would say "it's sluggish outside."

but none of them say that. conclusion: we are not descendants of reptiles.

betting.. there.. is some truth to weather alteration?

are you.. fucking with me.. or do you actually think we don't alter the weather?

no, im not going to post this link for my edit.. obviously you can answer.. or google and answer

either or..