well at least that wasn't awkward for the rest of us....

Not cool.

Never thought someone could refund a WIRE?..

WTF?

First time I hear about something like that. Or maybe its internal, in the same country?

I dont think someone can refund an international WIRE.

I'm just wondering:

1) Did the hired guy by simons scam sixpack?
2) Where is the money? In simons pocket or the hired guy's pocket?
3) If refund, is the bank doing the refund or simons? If simons, is he eating the loss?

If I was to respond to someone like sixpacks I would say this:

I didn't fucking get your wire. I think someone I gave some intimate details did. The money you sent went straight to his bank account and I did not receive any of it.
I will give you the content because I own it, and I am going after this mother fucker now!

- simon

just sayin'

Crazy Drama.
I am hoping all people involved have it rectified!

That's what I did:

I hired a guy to sell something on behalf of me. He scammed sixpack by selling content at a crazy low price. He got the money on his back account. I was totally not aware of ANYTHING.

In fact the first (and only) time we got an email from this sixpack to one of our OFFICIAL email addresses we "WTF! Who's this drunk crazy looser?" Not because we did know sixpack but the email was like "THIEF JAIL MONEY NOT ONLINE ANYMORE".

Now the problem is... who's in charge of everything? That's why I spent all my Monday dealing with my lawyer. Probably six-pack - judging how he writes and thinks - doesn't know how legal matters work and how much time they take.

At the end we decided to refund him by sending another wire to the same company that was scammed.

What drives me crazy is that we did something that we wasn't legally forced to do. I decided to refund the company he works for just because we are cool. And he keeps with his email full of things without any sense, insults and the show.

Actually sixpack could be sued for 2 offenses:

1) Publishing private data without being allowed by the other part involved.
2) Publishing private communication between two parts without the being allowed by the other part involved.

you're admitting that your employee scammed your customer

and now you're threatening to sue that customer?

just wanna clarify

With all this third party scam shit going on, I'm wondering if this simons guy is related to Marlboroack.

Just give the guy the content he was expecting and then go ass rape this fucker who scammed you.. then you look like the bigger man and maybe sixpack will be happy.. There is too much defensiveness in this post.. the guy got fucked over.. you may have too, but as the end user, I'd be fucking IRATE if I sent someone $3500 and got nothing..

It's not so easy. The guy who's scammed him is not my employee since he doesn't work for me. He's just a sort of "broker" who gets % of the transaction. In fact he doesn't use any of our official email address.

So if a broker that you use scams someone on behalf of you, who's in charge of the scam?

Lets say that you contact me saying "hey, if you can sell that i give you %" ... and I "ok, i'll do" and then I'll use this info to scam people getting money on my personal bank account. Is it your fault? Are you responsible for my scam?

I agree! But again what drives me crazy is:

1) Sixpack never sent any email to an official @dudescash.com email account. He just sent one email full of insults and NOTHING ELSE to an address we use for customer care of paysite members

2) He decided to open this thread BEFORE contacting US

3) After I asked him to send us some evidences regarding the issue he start sending several emails full of insults, threats and other weird things.

I asked him to deal directly with the director/owner of the company he works for. It seems to be a company based in UK. Tomorrow I'll be in London to sign a contract so we can fix the issue face to face but it seems impossible.

simons should pay up. period.

On Tuesday at 12:28pm he posted It's Thursday and still nothing.
:Oh crap:mad:

You better make more threads ..

Where is Six's money simons ?
You said you were going to refund his $3.5k

Let me guess ;
1. You're a piece of shit low-life cocky ass Italian that orchestrated this entire scam just to fund a 70k deal.
(If there really is a 70k deal)

2. You denied everything until you were cornered, then, you decided to bring in some mysterious third party in to take the blame.
(Almost reminiscent to the tube sites blaming their fake (Admin Created) members for uploading copyrighted content to the site)

3. You promised to refund Six's money which you never did.
(The Italian Connection scam continues)

simons' stories about 3rd party contractors selling his content, etc - sound like bullshit

i like poo

2x50 wires! :thumbsup

That totally blows. The first deal the company I work at made was a bulk deal of $10k but they said we only pay half upfront.

It's been some years. But I'm still hanging around, lol.:thumbsup

Well another day has gone by and still no refund that was promised in this thread on Tuesday for Wed morning. Hmmmmm... this is shocking !!

US to EU? can take a few days.

That's so sick.

We are only looking for a wire reciept like the one we supplied him with.

Hop3 u get urs

Bump to help get this resolved!

I fucking hate scammers :mad:

Thought this shit was resolved. What's the deal simons ya scam ass mother fucker !
Six, maybe you'll catch him at one of the webmaster events.
Life go's full circle and karma is a bitch !

I would to love to run into him at a show, that would be interesting to say the least. He has once again gone silent guess he thinks if he shuts up maybe this will go away. The next step is the legal one for the company. But it changes nothing for me, I want everyone to know what happened and who you may want to think twice about having anything to do with. That was the original intent but it kinda went a bit further,lol. I feel that everyone here has pretty much seen what's going on so on to the next board for those that are not gfy'ers. Hope this thread help's someone in our community from trusting this guy!

wow...

well, try to contact his bank and let them know you're going to take legal actions and let them know very clearly it's about porn deals. Being in Italy, that will cause some pressure on the bank and they may want to help you just to keep your mouth shut. Otherwise, courts in Italy really don't care much about such petty amounts, it's just "another day in Italy". Of course, seek for legal advise, but I don't think going after this idiot will make you any good, you'll probably end spending a lot more than what he got from you

We have in the contract that any legal matters will be:
"shall be governed by and construd in all respect in accordance with the law of England" and blah blah blah lol
We will see what happens.

Makes no sense at all. If the hired guy by simons ripped off sixpack why would he not just give the content and make peace?

For $3500 why not just send sixpack that content? Was it really worth $50,000 and you feel like refunding the $3500 is the better avenue? And if that is the case, why not have refunded the money already?

So many questions... but they seem to be falling on Simons now, not 6pack.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jUNgcEVls3...ike+a+plan.jpg

:stoned

ADG

My take on it... If somebody spoke to me in such an unprofessional manner they can go fuck themselves. Fuck that. Nobody talks to me that way.

If it looks like a deal to good to be true it probably is. You were offered more than 20k worth of content for 3.5k? That would be enough for me to contact the company directly that owns the content. Sending money to some random fuck in another country just seems real stupid.

But again, if I received that kind of communication from somebody I'd just laugh at them.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=611944&highlight=Aaronm

Same shit. Different year.

You sent 3k via wire to Italy? What were you thinking dude?

to Sicily :winkwink: