Originally Posted by wehateporn

Originally Posted by DWB

Here is the problem. When you have a government that has discussed creating false flag events in order to achieve their goal, or in the case of The Gulf Of Tonkin, or lies about WMD in Iraq to actually start a war, then you have to be skeptical about all events and not just believe what the mainstream corporate media tells you. That doesn't mean all events are false flags, but it does mean you should look at all the facts presented and try to make sense of it the best you can with ALL of the information available.

The corporate media has its own interest. It selectively tells the news they want us to know with the slant they want to put on it. Fair enough, so knowing this how can we base all events on what they say if we know they will lie to us or distort the truth sometimes?

Some conspiracy guys are bat shit crazy. No doubt. But it's healthy to question everything and not just drink the kool-aid because that is what the media and corporate shills in the government tell us to do. The media lies. Governments lie. People lie. Not always, but it does happen. This is what fuels conspiracy theorists. And sometimes those theories turn out to be true.

Just grabbing some older crazy shit off the top of my head, if you were told at the time any of these were happening you would have said the person is crazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskege...lis_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethic...nited_Stat es
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statevi..._Malaria_Study
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r...on_experiments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

All bat shit crazy. But it all happened. This is why people are conspiracy theorists. They are always looking for the truth, as history is full of governments who lie.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i like the way you put that. you said "not automatically believe everything they read on the internet/paper".

key word: everything.

i think when folks read as much as possible about an event that is clouded, they tend to be able to put the conspiracy theories into better perspective.

it seems to me that conspiracist don't read everything yet believe what they have read/watched on youtube.

moreover, as studies of truthers has shown, they tend to only read/watch more resources that support their view.

Originally Posted by NewNick

Bad news for 300 years.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

no doubt. these same people probably blame their parents for their failures, so why not other authority figures? its not that i'm a loser, its that the global elite keeps us all down except those who have joined the illuminiati. why even try in life. i can feel important and special right here on the internet by 'discovering' secret world plots...oh but of course.

Originally Posted by slapass

None of these comes close to what the nuts are claiming about 9/11 or.. or.. or..

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your right. Most of these cases are very old, and even then you can't really say that it was "our goverment". I read about one of the cases last night, the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, and it wasn't "our government" but instead a program started and run by three doctors. There is a staggering difference between three doctors and a government wide program.

The Tonkin Gulf incident also raises questions. No one has come forward saying "We are ordered to pretend we were under attack" and there is no proof that this happened. Seems to me it was the Navy firing on radar targets they couldn't see with their own eyes, and may or may not have existed. It's very common for soldiers, etc, to be firing at nothing out of fear.

I'm not saying our government can't do wrong - I'm pretty positive some of the stuff our government does in the name of "protecting us" would scare the piss out of us. But these items aren't any of them.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You've hit it on it exactly here... these are the same people who were blaming their parents for their failures, now they have just substituted parents for government. I wonder who they blame after that?

Originally Posted by _Richard_

took a long time for me to get here

i suppose all one needs to do is not automatically believe everything they read on the internet/paper, and they're 'conspiracy nutter'

which, you know, is nuts.. but hey, i just work here

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

haha

stop trying to play it cool.

A while back you were sucking the cum out of wehatelifes dick with whatever he said.

you literally believed every one of his posts and loved him for it.

now you are trying to play it cool like you don't believe everything you read...

what a joke