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Old 03-15-2013, 10:15 AM   #1
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How honest are you really?

What would you have done?

Dave Taly, homeless guy, finds a backpack with a laptop, an ipod, and $3,300 cash inside it, and decides to give it back. He turns it into the homeless shelter where he helps out at, and the student who owns it all eventually gets it back. Amazing.

But it doesn't end there. Somehow the story of this breaks in the news and suddenly donations start pouring in for Dave. Offers to go on talk shows to tell his story come his way. From all of that the guy now has a new house and a new start in life.

And there are people right here on GFY who've posted that karma doesn't exist.

Be honest, how many here (who aren't even homeless) would have kept the backpack?
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why does that story sound so similar to what happened with a woman and her expensive diamond ring and a homeless man?
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why does that story sound so similar to what happened with a woman and her expensive diamond ring and a homeless man?
No idea. I saw this guy on the Jeff Probst Show 2 days ago. He's a real guy, this is a true story.
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why does that story sound so similar to what happened with a woman and her expensive diamond ring and a homeless man?
or any 'feel good story'

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Better question....

Why did a 'student' have $3,500 in a backpack, and what did the homeless guy do with all his ecstasy? ;)
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Better question....

Why did a 'student' have $3,500 in a backpack, and what did the homeless guy do with all his ecstasy? ;)
he bought the house with it!
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Better question....

Why did a 'student' have $3,500 in a backpack, and what did the homeless guy do with all his ecstasy? ;)
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A year ago, Dave Tally was homeless.

Most nights, he slept on a mat at a church-based homeless shelter run by Tempe Community Action Agency.

During the day, with nowhere else to go, he walked the streets. That is where he found a backpack full of cash last November.

The $3,300 might as well have been $1 million as far as Tally was concerned.

He thought about the things he could pay for: a cheap apartment, a bike. The wish list was not hard to make for a man who had spent the previous six years homeless.

But keeping the cash, Tally explained, "just didn't feel right."

He had found the backpack at a Tempe light-rail station. He knew it likely belonged to a college kid.

"I just couldn't do it," he said.

Stephen Sparks, director of operations at Tempe Community Action Agency, said that the caseworkers at Interfaith Homeless Emergency Lodging Program already had seen Tally's potential when he showed up for a bed each night in a shelter that required sobriety.

I-HELP coordinators had selected Tally as one of the program's night monitors. That responsibility often earned him a spot in the shelter.

Tally was asked to encourage people to respect the program's rules. Although many shelters struggle with violence and crime, I-HELP rarely has such troubles.

"The program works because people like Dave who are homeless ... don't want to do anything to hurt the people from the church who are kind enough to let them sleep there," Sparks said.

At the time, Tally was working on a step-by-step recovery program. Drugs, alcohol and a string of bad decisions had dogged him for much of his life. He had lost his driver's license when he got a DUI, lost his job, and bit by bit his life unraveled.

Tally had developed a plan with an agency caseworker to reach his goals.

To get a job, he needed to get his driver's license reinstated. He had to pay fines related to that crime and other traffic violations. He had to get rid of some bad debt.

A bag full of money would have been an easy fix.

But to meet any one of those goals, he knew he would have to keep attending his recovery meetings.

Sparks said his staff believed in Tally. "He was so committed to his sobriety," he said.

Tally says it's hard to have faith in yourself when you've gone so far as to dig through the trash for a meal and been so low that you've hurt the people who love you most.

Struggling with what to do with the money he had found, Tally confided in Sam Sumner, his mentor at I-HELP. Sumner told Tally it was up to him to make a decision about whether to keep it.

Tally says the choice came down to not being able to take something he didn't earn from someone who might need it.

There was no ID in the backpack, but Sumner found a flash drive and helped Tally track down the owner.

The cash belonged to Bryan Belanger, an ASU student who, distracted in a conversation on his cellphone, forgot his bag. Belanger had planned to use the money to buy a car to replace one wrecked in a recent accident.

Meeting Belanger and hearing the student thank and praise him for his honesty and kindness made Tally feel good about himself, he says. He hadn't had that feeling in awhile.

Tally says it was more than enough thanks for a man who was used to people on the streets treating him like he was invisible.

But what happened next was more than Tally ever expected.

The spotlight

Tally's good deed sparked an international outpouring of goodwill. People wanted to help him get off the streets.

An Arizona Republic story about his act of kindness went national. He was interviewed by CNN, People magazine and ABC's Diane Sawyer. A few foreign-news outlets picked up the story. And Maxwell House coffee put him in a 30-second ad as part of a marketing campaign on the power of optimism.

Sparks said agency workers worried that the spotlight might be too much for Tally.

"We told him anytime he wanted to take a break he could," he said.

But Tally said he wanted to use his 15 minutes of fame to promote the non-profit that had given him a meal and place to sleep at night.

Tally's story hit a chord with viewers. Donations started pouring in for him and for I-HELP.

At final count, donations for Tally reached $10,000. A lawyer volunteered to help him fix his legal record so he could get his driver's license back. A dentist fixed his teeth.

It took about six months, but Tally's lawyer arranged for him to clean up his driving record and get his license back by paying restitution and doing community service.

Tally used his donation fund to pay fines. He saved most of the rest for a home.

"A lot of people in Dave's shoes would have taken that money and spent it. It's sad to say, but probably one year later we'd see them back in our shelter," Sparks said. "Not Dave. He kept seeing his caseworker. He stayed with his goals."

Sitting in the Tempe Escalante Community Garden earlier this month, Tally shook his head when he thought about his friends at the non-profit and the people who were willing to help a complete stranger. He thinks his commitment pales in comparison.

"I just want to thank everyone who was willing to help give me a second chance in life," he said.

The media attention prompted job offers from around the nation. With more than three times the amount of money he had returned in his pocket, it would have been so easy for Tally to start over miles away from the Valley where he had made so many mistakes.

But Tally's second chance would end up being right in front of him.

The future

Tally gets sad when he thinks about a homeless man whose crooning earned him national fame about the same time last year that Tally was in the news.

"We all know how that went bad," he said, referring to the man's relapse with substance abuse.

Tally knows how easily life can spiral out of control when it comes to the disease of addiction.

"I didn't want to waste all the good that people had done for me," he said.

Even though he had enough money to move out of the shelter right away last year, Tally asked to keep volunteering and sleeping there.

Last January, Tally moved into his own apartment. He didn't want to live in a big, fancy apartment because he worried about the temptations that might come with that lifestyle.

Tally chose a no-frills, five-unit complex across the street from a church where he had slept when he was homeless.

He said he wanted "a reminder of where I've been and where I'm not going back again."

Seeing Tally's commitment to getting his life in order, the non-profit offered him an internship at a Tempe community garden it was starting to help fill the charity's food pantry with fresh vegetables and fruits.

Before Tally was homeless, he had worked as a landscape supervisor and gardener.

"Dave had the background, and we needed someone who understood what we were trying to do," Sparks said.

Sparks offered Tally a six-month internship with the opportunity for a full-time job as the manager of the community garden depending on his performance.

In June, Sparks called Tally into his office for a review.

"I messed with him a little, but I knew he was getting the job," Sparks said. "He'd worked so hard."

Tally says that he now has his dream career.

"I'm blessed," he said, adding that he hopes to return to school to further his horticulture studies.

He is in the garden almost every day planting, digging and cultivating food that is distributed to community volunteers and to the food pantry.

"I just don't want anybody to have to take something out of the garbage to eat," Tally said, explaining why he spends so much time in the garden.

Recently, he started managing an internship program that allows people who are homeless to volunteer in the garden.

He doesn't preach to anyone, though.

"I let them know that when they're ready to make changes, it's possible," he said.

"I learned in my recovery program not to judge other people. I guess all I can say is that if I hadn't been at that point ... where I was working the program ... I wouldn't have been at the point to make changes in my life."

Last week, Tally boarded a plane to California to visit his parents for Thanksgiving.

"My mom bought about 50 copies of the People magazine I was in," Tally said with a big smile.

Seeing his parents' pride made it easier for Tally to believe in himself again.

In the spring, when Tally's license was reinstated, he bought a motorcycle. He follows a strict budget to maintain his simple lifestyle.

"My bills, they get priority. Nothing else gets done until they get paid," he said. "It's a great feeling to be able to put back into society after being a person who was dependent on society for so long."

At the end of a day's work, Tally gets to go home.

"The key that opens my door is a privilege, and I have to earn it."




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Good people don't find this unusual. They're also the ones insisting to incredulous interviewers that they aren't heroes.
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I've turned in two wallets (with money) to the cop shop over the years - yeah, I'd probably turn in the knapsack, too.

I've had honest people return cellphones (twice) that I'd lost - so I guess I just have that 'pay it forward' debt to return.
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here's what i think is my honest answer to the op.

i think i would have kept walking and let someone else deal with it.

i recently watched out my high rise window as police were called to the corner to clear a suspicious backpack someone left, they brought in a robot and a portable x-ray machine to sort it all out.

so in all probability, i would not go stick my nose in a random backpack left on the street, best case scenario, i would call the police, worst case, just keep walking.
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ok y'all didn't seem to believe me..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...o-8511222.html

its the same story, just different objects, what's going on?
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Student carrying $3300 in his backpack.

Yeah nothing unusual about that...
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Student carrying $3300 in his backpack.

Yeah nothing unusual about that...
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Tally, who had been living on the streets for six years, made news in late 2010 when he returned a sack containing $3,300 to its rightful owner. People familiar with how far Tally has come since returning the money said his story has all the makings of a Hollywood feel-good flick: A man is down on his luck, and one right choice is all it takes to turn his life around.

In January, the 49-year-old moved into his own apartment, choosing a no-frills, five-unit complex across the street from a church where he had slept when he was homeless. Seeing Tally's commitment to getting his life in order, a non-profit, the Tempe Community Action Agency, offered him an internship at a Tempe community garden that it was starting to supply the charity's food pantry with fresh vegetables and fruits. He did so well that he was given the chance to manage the garden full-time.

By year's end, Tally said he had found his dream career. He was in the garden almost every day planting, digging and cultivating food that is distributed to community volunteers and to the food pantry. Recently, he began managing an internship that allows homeless people to volunteer in the garden.




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I'd have returned It.
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What would you have done?

Dave Taly, homeless guy, finds a backpack with a laptop, an ipod, and $3,300 cash inside it, and decides to give it back. He turns it into the homeless shelter where he helps out at, and the student who owns it all eventually gets it back. Amazing.

But it doesn't end there. Somehow the story of this breaks in the news and suddenly donations start pouring in for Dave. Offers to go on talk shows to tell his story come his way. From all of that the guy now has a new house and a new start in life.

And there are people right here on GFY who've posted that karma doesn't exist.

Be honest, how many here (who aren't even homeless) would have kept the backpack?
He will go back on drugs and be homeless in a few months.
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I was outside a bank and a old man dropped about 2 k and was half way down the street. I immediately returned it.he offered me 5 bucks as a reward.I would have done it again
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I cant say because im not homeless. but if right now i found something and could return it I would. Id rather feel like a good person than have the money
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whats the most youve found. i found 20 once
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He is a real honest person. That's why he was homeless.
In this crooked world you have to be crook to succeed.
What do you guys think?
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I have returned cash and a phone before, got to keep the cash for being honest (was only about $20/$30 worth) and the phone was in a taxi so no "reward" except knowing someone had got their phone back.

Only time I kept anything I found, was some loose change on a beach, not so easy to find the owner of that.

Perhaps by karma, I once returned home drunk one night, dropped $20 out of my pocket, it was raining and got stuck the floor outside my house. Take that as you will. Found it the next morning.
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here's what i think is my honest answer to the op.

i think i would have kept walking and let someone else deal with it.

i recently watched out my high rise window as police were called to the corner to clear a suspicious backpack someone left, they brought in a robot and a portable x-ray machine to sort it all out.

so in all probability, i would not go stick my nose in a random backpack left on the street, best case scenario, i would call the police, worst case, just keep walking.
They've succeeded in scaring you too the point your scared of a backpack?? Dude calm down, it's been 12 years since 9-11.. no terrorist attacks in America.. And there won't be, because it's all bullshit. No bombs in back packs. If anything I'd be scared that the corrupted cops put it there to set you up on a stealing charge lol
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Yeah nothing unusual about that...
That's a lot of money? Looks of the story that he was going to purchase a car... $3,300 is about the average price range for a decent used vehicle from a private party who does not accept credit cards and probably refuses checks because if it bounced after giving the vehicle and title or whatever would be long gone...
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I wish we took more time to help each other instead of being wrapped up in our insignificant problems. This touches my heart.
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They've succeeded in scaring you too the point your scared of a backpack?? Dude calm down, it's been 12 years since 9-11.. no terrorist attacks in America.. And there won't be, because it's all bullshit. No bombs in back packs. If anything I'd be scared that the corrupted cops put it there to set you up on a stealing charge lol
as i said, a backpack left across the street caused a full scale response, bomb squad, portable xray machine, hours....i watched it from my loft, across the street.

you should not judge people, i live in downtown los angeles, live here and you will understand the need to keep your head on a swivel. shit hits the fan down here daily.

i will gladly not stuff my face in some disgusting random backpack...why should i? on the 1 in a trillion chance there's valuables in it so i can waste my time taking it to the police station and going through a bunch of nonsense so i can be a hero?

right.
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i just chuckled to myself thinking about how much random shit i walk by on a daily basis here in dtla, i see random bags and boxes of shit constantly, i couldn't imagine how much time it would take if i stopped and checked out each one, not to mention how much feces i'd get on me.

no, i'll pass on rummaging through random shit left on the street, that's not out of fear, that's out of common sense and having my own shit to do, i'll leave that to the homeless, like in the original story.
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I am the finder of things. Last month a ladies purse in a shopping cart, took it into the supermarket and gave it to the manager, second time I found a purse in a shopping cart at same supermarket. Found wallet outside another supermarket, returned it to store. Found credit card on ground outside that supermarket, returned it to store. Found wallet random on sidewalk, no DL, but biz card, cc's, lots of cash. Called cell # on biz card, it was the son's wallet, kid in school. Dad met me to pick it up, gave me a restaurant GC. Found credit card and DL on copy machine at Staples, gave to Staples manager. Found wallet on front stoop of my old building (mailman had dropped it). Found lost dogs (2). Found diamond bracelet in dentist's office waiting room, gave it to receptionist. Found more cell phones than I can count. Lots of dropped car keys. Late nite found unconscious drunk chick on sidewalk who had fallen and hit her head, bleeding, called 911. That's not even the full list. Have found kush, pills. I find shit all the time, I'm sure I'll keep finding shit. It must be my karma.
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I am the finder of things. Last month a ladies purse in a shopping cart, took it into the supermarket and gave it to the manager, second time I found a purse in a shopping cart at same supermarket. Found wallet outside another supermarket, returned it to store. Found credit card on ground outside that supermarket, returned it to store. Found wallet random on sidewalk, no DL, but biz card, cc's, lots of cash. Called cell # on biz card, it was the son's wallet, kid in school. Dad met me to pick it up, gave me a restaurant GC. Found credit card and DL on copy machine at Staples, gave to Staples manager. Found wallet on front stoop of my old building (mailman had dropped it). Found lost dogs (2). Found diamond bracelet in dentist's office waiting room, gave it to receptionist. Found more cell phones than I can count. Lots of dropped car keys. Late nite found unconscious drunk chick on sidewalk who had fallen and hit her head, bleeding, called 911. That's not even the full list. Have found kush, pills. I find shit all the time, I'm sure I'll keep finding shit. It must be my karma.
karma code for stealing shit?!? ;)
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:34 AM   #30
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Student carrying $3300 in his backpack.

Yeah nothing unusual about that...
The kids not very bright, After all he uses apple crap
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:38 AM   #31
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Yeah...I would honestly return the backpack. I used to steal shit and rob folks, when I was a kid (Yeah, TNB).
Then, Karma started to serve me up a nice couple of robberies, at gun point and a couple of home invasion robberies with my family.

After that, I grew a heart and started to be more of an honest human being.
A shotgun pointed at your head--demanding everything valuable you own--will do that to you.


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Old 03-19-2013, 10:14 AM   #32
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karma code for stealing shit?!? ;)
No. Here is another. Asian chick got jacked outside of a concert, not on the venue grounds, on sidewalk area. 3 guys ran off, dumped her handbag and obviously everything but her wallet. She was knocked to the ground. Immediately people started pawing at her shit to take stuff. My exbf and I stopped this petty ass shit. Where her stuff was dumped and where she was, was about a block away. Meanwhile, we don't see her anymore and don't know where she went, so we just picked up all her stuff, checkbook cell phone, makeup, the typical shit in a girl's handbag. I pop it in a box in the mail on the Monday after the wkend concert to the address on the checks. About a wk later, I get a package w/ a note from a woman who said she was the girl's mother, but I could barely read what she wrote (bad handwriting, I did put my return address). 2 jade lions, probably not expensive, but they are supposed to protect my house from evils to the north:

http://www.lifeofguangzhou.com/node_...54521373.shtml

and since my places have been thru several hurricanes in FL (and also when I moved north) with relatively little damage (mostly aggro in dealing w/ fuckturd insurance co's and FEMA), they must be working.

I read the book, The Law of Attraction, so I picture money raining down on my house, me, etc, yeah sounds like a stripper dream. So instead of mega affiliate dollars raining down me, I find things. The Law works in a convoluted way.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:19 AM   #33
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ok y'all didn't seem to believe me..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...o-8511222.html

its the same story, just different objects, what's going on?
Perhaps there's a wild errant outbreak of encyphylhonesty raging through the homeless community of the world.

Either that or it's some sort of conspiracy. :D
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To be honest when I was young and in dire straights I would have seen it as my luck was changing and kept the bag - As I have got older I have been more convinced of the power of karma and would certainly have handed it in.
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Fletchxxx doesn't post here much anymore, otherwise i'm sure he'd be in here telling you all how karma is a figment of your imagination and doesn't exist.
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Fletchxxx doesn't post here much anymore, otherwise i'm sure he'd be in here telling you all how karma is a figment of your imagination and doesn't exist.
lol - Yeah, he used have a fit about it ....
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I found a wallet with cards, documents and cash twice. Both times I searched for owner and gave wallets with everything inside back.
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Buddy of mine left his wallet on a table in Vegas, full of the cash he just won from a sports bet... It was turned into security sans cash. People are dicks.
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lol - Yeah, he used have a fit about it ....
In his defense he was an opinionated strainght-shooter of a guy who wasn't shy about speaking his mind and driving home a point on something he felt strongly about. Honest, talented, and hard-working as well. GFY is a lesser board without him.
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Buddy of mine left his wallet on a table in Vegas, full of the cash he just won from a sports bet... It was turned into security sans cash. People are dicks.
Which is why this thread is surprising me so far, having all the "I'd have given it back too" replies in it. I seem to recall a thread here in recent years where someone posed a similar moral question and I'm sure I saw several dozen who said things like "fuck it, I'd keep the money", "keep the money and return the wallet" etc.

Times seem to have changed on here.
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What would you have done?

Dave Taly, homeless guy, finds a backpack with a laptop, an ipod, and $3,300 cash inside it, and decides to give it back. He turns it into the homeless shelter where he helps out at, and the student who owns it all eventually gets it back. Amazing.

But it doesn't end there. Somehow the story of this breaks in the news and suddenly donations start pouring in for Dave. Offers to go on talk shows to tell his story come his way. From all of that the guy now has a new house and a new start in life.

And there are people right here on GFY who've posted that karma doesn't exist.

Be honest, how many here (who aren't even homeless) would have kept the backpack?
but how many times does this NOT happen? Probably 1:10,000 does someone get recognized for what they did.

friends of mine used to work at Hershey park and say when people would turn things in, they would keep them if they were cool, especially taking out the cash in the wallet... and these are EMPLOYEES!

I've had stuff lost or stolen and would always return it -- what goes around comes around. Unless its a drug dealer or prostitute, then I'd keep the cash
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but how many times does this NOT happen? Probably 1:10,000 does someone get recognized for what they did.
That's the beauty of this guy's story. He did it without any expectation of any special recognition whatsoever. Which is probably why he's the 1 in 10,000.
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Beautiful story, heartwarming.
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