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andi_germany · 02-21-2003, 02:20 AM

As I promised a month ago here is what I did.

1. I got all the members info from CMI
2. I cancelled all rebills with IBill
3. I send personalized emails out to all members including name and sub number
4. I offered following deal:
- You resubscribe to any of our sites using new biller you get 2 month of refunds.
- You rebill at least once you get another 2 refunds.
- Simply reply to the email and include the new trans number and get the refund
5. Start collecting money from IBill without them paying you.

I said that this is valid for only one month so its running out now and can be made public. I recovered a lot of rebills this way but not as many as I expected. I guess there are to many people out there sending email promises but I would say every rebill I got back was well worth it.

stocktrader23 · 02-21-2003, 02:22 AM

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boneprone · 02-21-2003, 02:27 AM

are they really that bad?

damn. I guess it narrows my list of processors down.
Im activly looking, and ibill looks nice, but these fucking horror stories keep pushing me away.

There are just so many of them.

andi_germany · 02-21-2003, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
are they really that bad?

damn. I guess it narrows my list of processors down.
Im activly looking, and ibill looks nice, but these fucking horror stories keep pushing me away.

There are just so many of them.

As long as they are paying you you they are fine. But when a company still collects from your members and don't pay out the money you will turn on them very fast. The only ways to get some of that owed money in my view was either sueing (which is risky due to the low debt) or going the way above.

andi_germany · 02-21-2003, 09:05 AM

I just got an info from a member. He tried to get an IBill refund himself because I cut him off when I cancelled all accounts. IBill refused to give him the refund. This is interesting due to the fact that IBill used to grant refunds to everyone that called

wouncie · 02-21-2003, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
are they really that bad?

damn. I guess it narrows my list of processors down.
Im activly looking, and ibill looks nice, but these fucking horror stories keep pushing me away.

There are just so many of them.

I was with Ibill for over THREE YEARS and there has ALWAYS been one thing or another totally FUCKED up with them, their customer service, or their CMI.

I spent YEARS waiting on ibill to "work it out"

my reply to you is ...
YOU CANT BE FUCKIN SERIOUS????

I told ya'll b4 .... the party is at Jettis Baby!

Cindyff · 02-21-2003, 10:46 AM

Same here, please don't ever use IBILL. They look great to start with but once you sign up they forget all about you.

The only company's worth looking at are Epoch who have the best Tech and Customer service and CCBill as a great backup processor.

Its like this if you only process five or ten sign-ups a day it doesn't matter who you use anyone can handle that, its when you get up there at 50-100 sign ups is when the trouble with IBILL starts, Their software is fucked up, the CMI is always down Check 2 dose not work with Netscape 7 so you lose 3% possibly 4 % of you potential sales. IBILL used to be the biggest in the adult business now its Epoch. Just give Amparo a call. She will hook you up and the tech guys get back to you to sort out any problems within an hour or less. We have been in this business for 7 years and used many processors EPOCH rules if you use IBILL then don't come back here crying about it later on when they treat you like shit.

Cindy xx

Mr.Dee · 02-21-2003, 10:52 AM

Ibill own me 5000$ and never get back my money.They are sux.

greentea · 02-21-2003, 10:54 AM

i wonder were half my income and rebills went one day in nov of 2001, POOF up in smoke gone, like many others here..

Alysha · 02-21-2003, 11:11 AM

Hi Boneprone-

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We also have awesome reporting and I'd be more than happy to walk you through our demo so you can see for yourself.

Please contact me at 1-888-211-5924 or [email protected]. Look forward to speaking with you.

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digihax · 02-21-2003, 11:53 AM

Ive been with Ibill since they first started taking credit cards and Ive never had a problem with them once with getting paid. and I clear over 100k a year from IBILL easily!.

Now I will admit the tech support isnt the brightest and thier favorite thing to say is "Please Bear with me" they love that call them sometime and they will say that to you when you ask them a question they have to look up..

But as far as getting paid they are on time every time. I have my funds direct deposited into my bank account as well..

I dont think IBILL will be going anywhere they just got bought out by some huge company and they are running strong for some time to come..

wouncie · 02-21-2003, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digihax
Ive been with Ibill since they first started taking credit cards and Ive never had a problem with them once with getting paid. and I clear over 100k a year from IBILL easily!.

Now I will admit the tech support isnt the brightest and thier favorite thing to say is "Please Bear with me" they love that call them sometime and they will say that to you when you ask them a question they have to look up..

But as far as getting paid they are on time every time. I have my funds direct deposited into my bank account as well..

I dont think IBILL will be going anywhere they just got bought out by some huge company and they are running strong for some time to come..

Stop using them for your primary and see what happens

Masturbationman · 02-21-2003, 01:21 PM

All I know it that being a division of a muti billion dollar publicly traded banking company has to have some benefits. Their stock also jump 25% today. If anyone one is going to be left standing it will be iBill because of their power and infulence. Can't wait till they launch Next Gen.

boneprone · 02-21-2003, 07:47 PM

tech support is very important to me.

Im a fucking dumbass and need all the tech and programing support I can get.

The last thing I need is to hook up somewhere that has bad tech support. In fact im looking to hook up with a processor that can hook me up with as much programing and tech support as humanly possible.

NetRodent · 02-21-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Masturbationman
All I know it that being a division of a muti billion dollar publicly traded banking company has to have some benefits. Their stock also jump 25% today. If anyone one is going to be left standing it will be iBill because of their power and infulence. Can't wait till they launch Next Gen.

We're beta testing NextGen and it kicks ass. The people doing the development of it are great to work with. They take phone calls and return email within a couple of hours.

NetRodent · 02-21-2003, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wouncie

Stop using them for your primary and see what happens

In our case our signups plunged and they kissed a bit of ass to get us back.

PornoBug · 02-21-2003, 08:13 PM

The only reference I can give IBill is that they owe us money. Despite emailed promises that we would be paid , we haven't been paid.

Too many other non EU and US webmasters I know have the same story.

If 20 people told you that food at a particular restraunt was bad or inedible, would you eat there ? IBill may be publicly traded but so was Enron, Worldcomm and many other failures. In any organisation flaws can develop that undermine the whole show.

IBill are inept and there are hundreds of examples of this I can cite over 4 or more years.

02-21-2003, 02:20 AM	#1
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	A IBill non-payment solution As I promised a month ago here is what I did. 1. I got all the members info from CMI 2. I cancelled all rebills with IBill 3. I send personalized emails out to all members including name and sub number 4. I offered following deal: - You resubscribe to any of our sites using new biller you get 2 month of refunds. - You rebill at least once you get another 2 refunds. - Simply reply to the email and include the new trans number and get the refund 5. Start collecting money from IBill without them paying you. I said that this is valid for only one month so its running out now and can be made public. I recovered a lot of rebills this way but not as many as I expected. I guess there are to many people out there sending email promises but I would say every rebill I got back was well worth it.

02-21-2003, 02:22 AM	#2
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02-21-2003, 02:27 AM	#3
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	are they really that bad? damn. I guess it narrows my list of processors down. Im activly looking, and ibill looks nice, but these fucking horror stories keep pushing me away. There are just so many of them. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

02-21-2003, 10:54 AM	#9
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	i wonder were half my income and rebills went one day in nov of 2001, POOF up in smoke gone, like many others here.. __________________ blunts

02-21-2003, 07:47 PM	#14
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	tech support is very important to me. Im a fucking dumbass and need all the tech and programing support I can get. The last thing I need is to hook up somewhere that has bad tech support. In fact im looking to hook up with a processor that can hook me up with as much programing and tech support as humanly possible. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

02-21-2003, 09:05 AM	#5
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	I just got an info from a member. He tried to get an IBill refund himself because I cut him off when I cancelled all accounts. IBill refused to give him the refund. This is interesting due to the fact that IBill used to grant refunds to everyone that called

02-21-2003, 10:46 AM	#7
Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	Same here, please don't ever use IBILL. They look great to start with but once you sign up they forget all about you. The only company's worth looking at are Epoch who have the best Tech and Customer service and CCBill as a great backup processor. Its like this if you only process five or ten sign-ups a day it doesn't matter who you use anyone can handle that, its when you get up there at 50-100 sign ups is when the trouble with IBILL starts, Their software is fucked up, the CMI is always down Check 2 dose not work with Netscape 7 so you lose 3% possibly 4 % of you potential sales. IBILL used to be the biggest in the adult business now its Epoch. Just give Amparo a call. She will hook you up and the tech guys get back to you to sort out any problems within an hour or less. We have been in this business for 7 years and used many processors EPOCH rules if you use IBILL then don't come back here crying about it later on when they treat you like shit. Cindy xx

02-21-2003, 10:52 AM	#8
Mr.Dee Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 50	Ibill own me 5000$ and never get back my money.They are sux.

02-21-2003, 11:11 AM	#10
Alysha Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 18	Hi Boneprone- I'd like to speak with you about how Jettis can help you. We offer high throughput and conversions, competitive processing rates, weekly pay outs, robust affiliate software, and exciting new products. We also have awesome reporting and I'd be more than happy to walk you through our demo so you can see for yourself. Please contact me at 1-888-211-5924 or [email protected]. Look forward to speaking with you. Alysha Jettis

02-21-2003, 11:53 AM	#11
digihax So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 349	Ive been with Ibill since they first started taking credit cards and Ive never had a problem with them once with getting paid. and I clear over 100k a year from IBILL easily!. Now I will admit the tech support isnt the brightest and thier favorite thing to say is "Please Bear with me" they love that call them sometime and they will say that to you when you ask them a question they have to look up.. But as far as getting paid they are on time every time. I have my funds direct deposited into my bank account as well.. I dont think IBILL will be going anywhere they just got bought out by some huge company and they are running strong for some time to come..

02-21-2003, 01:21 PM	#13
Masturbationman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 283	All I know it that being a division of a muti billion dollar publicly traded banking company has to have some benefits. Their stock also jump 25% today. If anyone one is going to be left standing it will be iBill because of their power and infulence. Can't wait till they launch Next Gen.

02-21-2003, 08:13 PM	#17
PornoBug Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 237	The only reference I can give IBill is that they owe us money. Despite emailed promises that we would be paid , we haven't been paid. Too many other non EU and US webmasters I know have the same story. If 20 people told you that food at a particular restraunt was bad or inedible, would you eat there ? IBill may be publicly traded but so was Enron, Worldcomm and many other failures. In any organisation flaws can develop that undermine the whole show. IBill are inept and there are hundreds of examples of this I can cite over 4 or more years.