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PR_Glen · 03-11-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I used to think it was never a real issue either until i experienced what its like to go through the health care system being english and not knowing french.

my girlfriends mother needed to be hospitalized for a period of time due to a bad fall and she is english speaking, born and raised in the Hull area. she speaks some french but its limited and she's lost some of it as she's gotten older. anyways, trying to get nurses and even doctors to speak in english was difficult. i found they would often avoid speaking at any length due to their limited english, both nurses and doctors. nurses were the worst. they would speak french knowing that she doesn't understand it and even avoided her due to it. luckily my girlfriend speaks french so she could talk to them while she was there and get information that was not communicated in english to her mother. i would imagine she felt quite vulnerable in that situation and its not one i would want to be in either.

when you talk to colleagues do you not speak in your native language? Shouldn't that be a must when it comes to things like MEDICAL CARE? Hate to think someone could get the wrong dosage because of a fucking translation problem...

2MuchMark · 03-11-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

isn't there a lot more to a culture than just language? .

For sure there is, but they only seem to concentrate on language. It's so strange.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I used to think it was never a real issue either until i experienced what its like to go through the health care system being english and not knowing french..

I've had to take my Mom to the Hospital a few times and fortunately they've all been able to speak English to her. I go for checkups once a year and Dentists twice a year and they've all talked English too so at LEAST this isn't a problem.

In all of the bars and restaurants I've also never hit a problem. Most everyone is french but speaks English. It's business and it of course pays them to speak English or as many languages as possible.

Where I get french-only is in McDonalds or Tim Hortons. Get this : On Saturday I stopped for lunch at Tim Hortons. The girl behind the cash refused to talk to me in English. She understood what I was saying, but couldn't be bothered. I switched to speaking in my best french possible to show I would at least try, but she didn't even bother.

The manager noticed.

To make matters worse, she dropped a lunch tray and proceeded to serve my lunch on it without getting me a new one. The manager noticed again, and took over for her serving me my lunch. When I sat down the manager was taking the cashier to the back room. Hopefully to give her shit.

bigluv · 03-11-2013, 10:45 AM

The fuckers are going to get a rude awakening to find out you can't legislate language.

Just think how they'll feel when they end up speaking chinese.

BlackCrayon · 03-11-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

when you talk to colleagues do you not speak in your native language? Shouldn't that be a must when it comes to things like MEDICAL CARE? Hate to think someone could get the wrong dosage because of a fucking translation problem...

nurses and doctors speaking french to each other isn't a problem. the problem we experienced was the doctors and nurses didn't know a number of medical terms in english, so this caused them to avoid mentioning certain things to the patient or going into the same detail they would have had they been able to speak french to her. some nurses didn't speak english at all though.

these days i think if you are going to live in quebec, its in your best interest to learn french fluently. in her day it was very different in Hull. school was english, many more english families lived there. thats not the case today.

directfiesta · 03-11-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

nurses and doctors speaking french to each other isn't a problem. the problem we experienced was the doctors and nurses didn't know a number of medical terms in english,.

Had the same issue in Manitoba, but there was not a single word of french spoken...

AtlantisCash · 03-11-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I think it all makes perfect sense. If you want to preserve your heritage and culture, you have to resist everything that is changing or diluting that. Ukraine has done the same thing to try to reclaim their identity and disassociate themselves from the Soviet Union and that history and get back to who they were and preserve that. I wish all countries were like this. I wish the USA had a strong sense of a collective identity, who they were and who they wanted to be. Instead its just a huge mish mash of selfish assholes.

Who gives a fuck what Ukraine did, they are almost like Russians except their look, this kind of cultural policing makes you look like an ideot,but nothing more.

i m coming from a society that is thought of rediculous nationalism in schools, even some people proud of things that wrest of the world actually doesn't even care about, see what happend now, youngsters don't give a damn shit about so called traditional values anymore and they are right.

in fact i would love to born in a society which hadn't a deep historical background such as United states, since then nobody would try forcing me an identity of any kind.

to conclude, Cultural haritage is my ass, we are human beings, we created that culture and no doudt it has to be changed according to our changing needs.

2MuchMark · 03-11-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

The fuckers are going to get a rude awakening to find out you can't legislate language..

Actually, they can, and they are. That's the problem.

alias · 03-11-2013, 02:55 PM

Speak English loud and proud, fuck them.

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What are they gonna do, cry?

pornmasta · 03-11-2013, 03:08 PM

Le "peenbrobirdcrew" devra être renommé:
"L'équipe de la confraternité du volatile au zob" pour pouvoir exister dans la province de Québec.

alias · 03-11-2013, 03:13 PM

Le l'équipage d'oiseau du pénis frères.

RebelR · 03-11-2013, 03:24 PM

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That scene from Canadian Bacon was funny

pornmasta · 03-11-2013, 03:24 PM

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Axel_Crak · 03-11-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I used to think it was never a real issue either until i experienced what its like to go through the health care system being english and not knowing french.

my girlfriends mother needed to be hospitalized for a period of time due to a bad fall and she is english speaking, born and raised in the Hull area. she speaks some french but its limited and she's lost some of it as she's gotten older. anyways, trying to get nurses and even doctors to speak in english was difficult. i found they would often avoid speaking at any length due to their limited english, both nurses and doctors. nurses were the worst. they would speak french knowing that she doesn't understand it and even avoided her due to it. luckily my girlfriend speaks french so she could talk to them while she was there and get information that was not communicated in english to her mother. i would imagine she felt quite vulnerable in that situation and its not one i would want to be in either.

Ok, in that particular case i agree that it could be a problem, and you dont want to have understanding issue at the hospital

But in a other day, or doc or hospital maybe you will have be fine... and most of peoples rarely goes in hospital in their lives

So ya, in few case like that its a problem, but for the day to day living i think it would rarely happen..

Axel_Crak · 03-11-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

The fuckers are going to get a rude awakening to find out you can't legislate language.

Not really, they are doing it at the moment... they put of lot of laws to for it and it help for sure,, they always help/encourage ( hum well "force" will be the proper word ) immigrant to learn french, especially for kids and school and its not too bad becuase if they dont do it, they will maybe never learn and stay more isolated. Again, sometimes theres some overstatement

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

isn't there a lot more to a culture than just language? .

Yes but its french culture, what defines a culture, i think the language is pretty important even more when your the only one around speaking it... so it have to be highly connected, it leads to french music, french literature etc etc

Encore une fois, un débat sans fin !!

Bonne soirée

2MuchMark · 03-11-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Speak English loud and proud, fuck them.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=529_1361049066

What are they gonna do, cry?

Lol!! Fortunately, most people in Montreal are not like this asshole. What's he doing at the end, crying like the little bitch that he is? Oh well. This guy has probably just realized that his options for the future are severely limited. I've met only one guy like this and I just felt sorry for him.

alias · 03-11-2013, 08:52 PM

MTL is a great city, Québec est "la belle province" some people rage because they still have Canadian Passports, Currency & Transfer Payments. Maybe not so bad.

Montréal houses many fine universities including a few English language based.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Canada#Quebec

An attempt to eradicate English will not be tolerated, but people speaking English also have to be mindful of the concerted attempt to keep the French charm, mystique and beauty of Québec.

SleazyDream · 03-11-2013, 10:06 PM

the best thing you can do to erase a culture is FORCE it on people by the government

keep it going, the french language in Canada will disappear in a generation or two.

RebelR · 03-12-2013, 03:56 AM

I think if the Quebecers want to legislate the french language then they should also speak the French language.. Growing up in Ontario we had french classes. I took them all the way through high school. Got stuck in Trois Riviers and had a huge communication problem. Not sure if it was the slang or dialect, but my French seemed to fail me.

Coming back from Qwebec Expo last year, on my way to the Airport, I had a cab driver from Algeria. He spoke no English, but communication was basic but understandable.

We Canadians are a funny bunch, we use different ethnic words for different things, we measure in both Metric and Imperial, and there are many cities in Canada where I would argue that English is not the predominant language. Times they are a changin.

CamTraffic · 03-12-2013, 04:13 AM

You haven't learn French yet Mark?
How long have you been in MTL?

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

keep it going, the french language in Canada will disappear in a generation or two.

No way José!

directfiesta · 03-12-2013, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

You haven't learn French yet Mark?
How long have you been in MTL?

No way José!

Bilingual is a mother tongue french person able to speak english ...

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