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DavePlays · 02-21-2003, 06:02 PM

Now don't go jumping MY shit just because I posted this....

It was forwarded to me - and I'm just passing it along without comment for your reading pleasure...

OK?

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Does Anyone remember this?? It was 1987!

At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.

By the way, that senator was Al Gore.

KC · 02-21-2003, 06:06 PM

I've heard this before.. but I've never seen an official transcript.. or read this on an official web site.. I've even looked around to try and find references to this.. I have a hunch it was made up after the fact.

SleazyDream · 02-21-2003, 06:06 PM

i like al gore

KC · 02-21-2003, 06:08 PM

Here's a site I just found...

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...orth-osama.htm

Summary of eRumor:
Oliver North allegedly told a congressional hearing that he had installed a security system in his home because of threats to his family by Osama Bin Laden. Later versions of the story say the person questioning Col. North was Senator Al Gore.

The Truth:
According to the Congressional Record, there was no mention of Osama Bin Laden during the Iran-Contra hearings by Oliver North or anyone else. In fact, there was no mention of Osama Bin Laden in the Congressional Record at all in 1987, the year of the hearings.

Also, Senator Al Gore was not a member of the joint House-Senate Iran-Contra Committee and did not do any of the questioning.

One of the charges against North at that time, however, was his accepting a security system for his home as a gift. He said he needed it because of threats against himself and his family by Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal.

Paul Bedard whose column WASHINGTON WHISPERS appears on USNEWS.com contacted North who confirmed that he never referenced Bin Laden who, in fact, became a friend of the U.S. against Soviet invaders of Afghanistan.

NetRodent · 02-21-2003, 06:08 PM

This appears to be an urban legend. Although I suppose its possible that its an urban legend that its an urban legend.

http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/ollie.html

jimmyf · 02-21-2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i like al gore

so does 12clicks.

Kris · 02-21-2003, 06:10 PM

Sunday :: October 20, 2002

Internet Hoaxes: Oliver North Naming Bin Laden

There's another internet e-mail hoax going around. We received it today, but it has been in circulation for a while. It has two parts, the first concerning Oliver North and the second about Mohammad Attah.

The e-mail says that Oliver North testified at the 1987 Iran-Contra hearings before Congress that he had bought an expensive home security system to protect himself from Osama bin Laden, who North said wanted to assassinate him. This was years before bin Laden emerged as a suspected terrorist leader. The phony email goes on to say that North was asked what he would do about Bin Laden and that he replied, "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth." Lastly, the email says Al Gore was the Senator asking the questions.

According to ABC News, 11/29/01, "North did indeed testify about his need for protection. But a review of the hearing transcripts shows he was talking about Abu Nidal, leader of a terrorist group responsible for airport shootings and other attacks in the Middle East in the 1980s. (Nightline, 11/19/01; 20/20, 11/21/01)"

Here is the Nightline transcript which ran the tape of that portion of North's 1987 testimony:

JOHN DONVAN: An e-mail that's making the rounds these days has an air of authenticity about it. It is about Oliver North's 1987 nationally televised testimony before Congress. In tonight's Fact Check, the e-mails quote North as saying he and his family installed an expensive security system after they were threatened. "Threatened by whom?" "By a terrorist, sir." "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?" "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir." We went into the tape archives and this is what was really said.

(Beginning of footage from July 8, 1987)

Mr. OLIVER NORTH: The issue of the security system was first broached immediately after a threat on my life by Abu Nidal. Abu Nidal is, as I'm sure you on the intelligence committees know, the principal, foremost assassin in the world today. He is a brutal murderer.

DONVAN: Abu Nidal is thought to be living in Iraq under the protection of Saddam Hussein.

Nor was it Al Gore who questioned Oliver North. It was committee counsel John Nields, who is not even a senator. Oliver North

KC · 02-21-2003, 06:11 PM

It's funny how people seem to believe really unbelievable things just because their appear online.

I'm not directing that at DavePlays, but at the people in general who believe this stuff without considering the source.

dav555add · 02-21-2003, 06:13 PM

Oliver North will one day be President, most likely the 2008 elections.
Can't wait for that day, when we finally have a "No non sense" President.

DavePlays · 02-21-2003, 06:16 PM

I've always liked Ollie....

But I'm as interested in the truth as anyone.

rooster · 02-21-2003, 06:17 PM

02-21-2003, 06:02 PM	#1
DavePlays Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: West (by God) Virginia Posts: 1,088	Remember what Ollie North said Now don't go jumping MY shit just because I posted this.... It was forwarded to me - and I'm just passing it along without comment for your reading pleasure... OK? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does Anyone remember this?? It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration. There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning! He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?" Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir." The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?" "No, sir," continued Ollie. "No? And why not?" the senator asked. "Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir." "Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned. "By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered. "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?" "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied. At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked. "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered. "And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator. "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth." The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip. By the way, that senator was Al Gore. __________________ THE BEST CONVERTING TGP If I were only going to submit to one TGP, it would be BOOK-MARK.NET.

02-21-2003, 06:06 PM	#2
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	I've heard this before.. but I've never seen an official transcript.. or read this on an official web site.. I've even looked around to try and find references to this.. I have a hunch it was made up after the fact. __________________ Jupiter Hosting, Inc. Vice President, Business Development kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

02-21-2003, 06:06 PM	#3
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02-21-2003, 06:08 PM	#4
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	Here's a site I just found... http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...orth-osama.htm Summary of eRumor: Oliver North allegedly told a congressional hearing that he had installed a security system in his home because of threats to his family by Osama Bin Laden. Later versions of the story say the person questioning Col. North was Senator Al Gore. The Truth: According to the Congressional Record, there was no mention of Osama Bin Laden during the Iran-Contra hearings by Oliver North or anyone else. In fact, there was no mention of Osama Bin Laden in the Congressional Record at all in 1987, the year of the hearings. Also, Senator Al Gore was not a member of the joint House-Senate Iran-Contra Committee and did not do any of the questioning. One of the charges against North at that time, however, was his accepting a security system for his home as a gift. He said he needed it because of threats against himself and his family by Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal. Paul Bedard whose column WASHINGTON WHISPERS appears on USNEWS.com contacted North who confirmed that he never referenced Bin Laden who, in fact, became a friend of the U.S. against Soviet invaders of Afghanistan. __________________ Jupiter Hosting, Inc. Vice President, Business Development kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

02-21-2003, 06:08 PM	#5
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	This appears to be an urban legend. Although I suppose its possible that its an urban legend that its an urban legend. http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/ollie.html __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

02-21-2003, 06:10 PM	#7
Kris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 940	Sunday :: October 20, 2002 Internet Hoaxes: Oliver North Naming Bin Laden There's another internet e-mail hoax going around. We received it today, but it has been in circulation for a while. It has two parts, the first concerning Oliver North and the second about Mohammad Attah. The e-mail says that Oliver North testified at the 1987 Iran-Contra hearings before Congress that he had bought an expensive home security system to protect himself from Osama bin Laden, who North said wanted to assassinate him. This was years before bin Laden emerged as a suspected terrorist leader. The phony email goes on to say that North was asked what he would do about Bin Laden and that he replied, "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth." Lastly, the email says Al Gore was the Senator asking the questions. According to ABC News, 11/29/01, "North did indeed testify about his need for protection. But a review of the hearing transcripts shows he was talking about Abu Nidal, leader of a terrorist group responsible for airport shootings and other attacks in the Middle East in the 1980s. (Nightline, 11/19/01; 20/20, 11/21/01)" Here is the Nightline transcript which ran the tape of that portion of North's 1987 testimony: JOHN DONVAN: An e-mail that's making the rounds these days has an air of authenticity about it. It is about Oliver North's 1987 nationally televised testimony before Congress. In tonight's Fact Check, the e-mails quote North as saying he and his family installed an expensive security system after they were threatened. "Threatened by whom?" "By a terrorist, sir." "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?" "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir." We went into the tape archives and this is what was really said. (Beginning of footage from July 8, 1987) Mr. OLIVER NORTH: The issue of the security system was first broached immediately after a threat on my life by Abu Nidal. Abu Nidal is, as I'm sure you on the intelligence committees know, the principal, foremost assassin in the world today. He is a brutal murderer. DONVAN: Abu Nidal is thought to be living in Iraq under the protection of Saddam Hussein. Nor was it Al Gore who questioned Oliver North. It was committee counsel John Nields, who is not even a senator. Oliver North __________________ I am the walrus.

02-21-2003, 06:11 PM	#8
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	It's funny how people seem to believe really unbelievable things just because their appear online. I'm not directing that at DavePlays, but at the people in general who believe this stuff without considering the source. __________________ Jupiter Hosting, Inc. Vice President, Business Development kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

02-21-2003, 06:13 PM	#9
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	Oliver North will one day be President, most likely the 2008 elections. Can't wait for that day, when we finally have a "No non sense" President. __________________ ...

02-21-2003, 06:16 PM	#10
DavePlays Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: West (by God) Virginia Posts: 1,088	I've always liked Ollie.... But I'm as interested in the truth as anyone. __________________ THE BEST CONVERTING TGP If I were only going to submit to one TGP, it would be BOOK-MARK.NET.

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