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Darren · 02-21-2003, 11:48 AM

Anyone had dealings with these people, I got an email and I am not 100% sure if they are protecting my copyright on my behalf or accusing me of infringing copyright.

It as my URL and then a URL of "infringing" domain which is NOT mine.....

any ideas , are these guys legit?

Mr.Dee · 02-21-2003, 11:49 AM

I got email from them too.

Juicy D. Links · 02-21-2003, 11:49 AM

Post the email its a little vague from your post

Mr.Fiction · 02-21-2003, 11:56 AM

Post the email. Block out the URL's if you want.

Darren · 02-21-2003, 12:22 PM

NOTICE of COPYRIGHT-TRADEMARK, or RIGHT of PUBLICITY INFRINGEMENT

APIC - WORLDWIDE

3325 Griffin Road

Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33312

(954) 983-7312

Our association, the Association for the Protection of Internet Copyright ("APIC") (<http://www.apic-worldwide.com>), an Internet organization dedicated to the continued education of copyright law and enforcement of such law on behalf of our members, has been notified by one of our members, that a web site, is infringing upon our member's intellectual property rights. This site is hosted by your organization . APIC is an authorized agent, and has a good faith belief that the copyrighted work described in the paragraph below is being used in manner that is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent(s) or the law.

Anyone profitting from theft of property can be held liable under the RICO Act in the U.S.

http://www.prosolutionpills.com/?s=3&w=100141&p=2&sb=1

Date: Feb 14, 2003

To:

NOT SUPPLIED DUE TO GARBAGE MAIL
NA
NA, NA 07777
UG
999-333-1212 Fax: 999-333-1212

FALSE REGISTRATION REPORTED TO INTERNIC
FAILURE TO CORRECT WITHIN 15 DAYS WILL RESULT IN LOSS OF DOMAIN

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Infringing URLs:

? Private Media

http://pornheaven.sexstorage.net/TGP...10/index08.htm

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Infringing the Intellectual Property of others is against the state and federal laws of the United States as well as many other international countries. Such infringement may provide for substantial financial penalties and / or potential criminal prosecution. Please immediately: a) remove the referenced material from your Online Service Provider, b) provide APIC with written or electronic confirmation of its removal, and c) take other appropriate action against " " to prevent future infringement.

Pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) (<http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf>), this letter serves as actual notice of infringement in the event of legal proceedings.

Steve Easton is the director of APIC-Worldwide,is NOT an attorney. On behalf of the owner of the exclusive right to the material at issue in this notice, I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the owner, its agent, or the law. I hereby state, under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States, that the information in this notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is being infringed as set out in this notification.

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APIC WORLDWIDE, (the Association for the Protection of Internet Copyright), is a membership organization dedicated to the continued education of Internet copyright law and enforcement of such law through the co-operation of international, domestic, federal, state, and local statutes, laws, and ordinances. Additional information can be found at:

http://www.apic-worldwide.com

http://www.whatiscopyright.org

Berne Treaty

http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html

USC 18-2257

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2257.html

INTEGRITY OF COPYRIGHT MANAGEMENT INFORMATION

Article 12 of the WCT provides adequate and effective legal remedies against any person knowingly performing any of the following acts knowing, or with respect to civil remedies having reasonable grounds to know, that it will induce, enable, facilitate or conceal an infringement of any right covered by this Treaty or the Berne Convention: (i) to remove or alter any electronic rights management information without authority; (ii) to distribute, import for distribution, broadcast or communicate to the public, without authority, works or copies of works knowing that electronic rights management information has been removed or altered without authority. In addition, it is a criminal offense to violate section 1201 or 1202 willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain. Under section 1204 penalties range up to a $500,000 fine or up to five years imprisonment for a first offense, and up to a $1,000,000 fine or up to 10 years imprisonment for subsequent offenses. Nonprofit libraries, archives and educational institutions are entirely exempted from criminal liability. (Section 1204 (b)). For additional information on THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT OF 1998 visit:

http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf

No problems with posting URLS.... ProSolutionPills is registered with GODADDY using their proxy register.

Mr.Fiction · 02-21-2003, 12:50 PM

You run a sponsor program, right?

Maybe they are just sending you a copy because some affiliate of yours is being accused of stealing content? From what I've read about Apic, they falsely accuse people sometimes, so you should ask them for proof before you do anything.

stevo · 02-21-2003, 01:26 PM

Just reply, tell them your story and your questions and they should answer you quickly...

SleazyDream · 02-21-2003, 01:30 PM

ahhhh, the caped crusador strikes again

Gemini · 02-21-2003, 02:48 PM

Who was dat masked man?!

UnseenWorld · 02-21-2003, 02:50 PM

Tell the fuckers to boil it down to about three plain English sentences and you'll cut the bullshit on your end as well.

BigFish · 02-21-2003, 03:46 PM

if they want to protect content providers so much then go after acadia. Apic seem like they got nothing else to do but go around wasting their time fucking around with small time webmasters.

Brujah · 02-21-2003, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish
if they want to protect content providers so much then go after acadia. Apic seem like they got nothing else to do but go around wasting their time fucking around with small time webmasters.

He's gotta make a living somehow. Some chase ambulances, others chase webmasters.

BigFish · 02-21-2003, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

He's gotta make a living somehow. Some chase ambulances, others chase webmasters.

:O)

Mutt · 02-21-2003, 05:10 PM

That's what has always been wrong with APIC, his strategy is just stupid. He hunts down the smallest fish, guys on free hosting it seems to me most of the time, then sends these threatening emails to programs whose banners are on the infringers site, and the free hosts, and anbody else with the slightest connection to the infringement.

Like 5 years ago I posted to him on YNOT, put your money where your mouth is, sue a free host if you're so sure that they are liable for all the infringements on them. Sue a processor. Do something other than running around like a hysterical chicken with his head cut off and blaming people who are only tangentially involved in an infringement , in the way he has implicated Darin in this case. He really wants Darin to believe he or the APIC member he is representing are going to sue him because the infringer also happens to be promoting one of Darin's sites? HAHAHAHHAHHA...........get real.

There are plenty of real serious cases of infringement this guy could go after hard and they don't involve third parties like a webmaster affiliate program or a free host. Clear cut cases where he could make some big $$$ for those who APIC represents.

He's the boy who cried wolf. All the people I know who do own content have nothing to do with APIC, they look after their own biz and instead of yelling and screaming they do take legal action.

When was the last time APIC posted a lawsuit by one of their members? A succesful lawsuit.

02-21-2003, 11:48 AM	#1
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	Apic Anyone had dealings with these people, I got an email and I am not 100% sure if they are protecting my copyright on my behalf or accusing me of infringing copyright. It as my URL and then a URL of "infringing" domain which is NOT mine..... any ideas , are these guys legit? __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

02-21-2003, 12:22 PM	#5
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	NOTICE of COPYRIGHT-TRADEMARK, or RIGHT of PUBLICITY INFRINGEMENT APIC - WORLDWIDE 3325 Griffin Road Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33312 (954) 983-7312 Our association, the Association for the Protection of Internet Copyright ("APIC") (<http://www.apic-worldwide.com>), an Internet organization dedicated to the continued education of copyright law and enforcement of such law on behalf of our members, has been notified by one of our members, that a web site, is infringing upon our member's intellectual property rights. This site is hosted by your organization . APIC is an authorized agent, and has a good faith belief that the copyrighted work described in the paragraph below is being used in manner that is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent(s) or the law. Anyone profitting from theft of property can be held liable under the RICO Act in the U.S. http://www.prosolutionpills.com/?s=3&w=100141&p=2&sb=1 Date: Feb 14, 2003 To: NOT SUPPLIED DUE TO GARBAGE MAIL NA NA, NA 07777 UG 999-333-1212 Fax: 999-333-1212 FALSE REGISTRATION REPORTED TO INTERNIC FAILURE TO CORRECT WITHIN 15 DAYS WILL RESULT IN LOSS OF DOMAIN ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Infringing URLs: ? Private Media http://pornheaven.sexstorage.net/TGP...10/index08.htm ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Infringing the Intellectual Property of others is against the state and federal laws of the United States as well as many other international countries. Such infringement may provide for substantial financial penalties and / or potential criminal prosecution. Please immediately: a) remove the referenced material from your Online Service Provider, b) provide APIC with written or electronic confirmation of its removal, and c) take other appropriate action against " " to prevent future infringement. Pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) (<http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf>), this letter serves as actual notice of infringement in the event of legal proceedings. Steve Easton is the director of APIC-Worldwide,is NOT an attorney. On behalf of the owner of the exclusive right to the material at issue in this notice, I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the owner, its agent, or the law. I hereby state, under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States, that the information in this notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is being infringed as set out in this notification. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----iQA/AwUBN9/veP4FPqLzqgzREQIFMgCfWTmk2wVVtE+oyFYlaopCjtM5/PkAniaU3UDH6hkv28v6cK1VgiDSy/TV=maqC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- APIC WORLDWIDE, (the Association for the Protection of Internet Copyright), is a membership organization dedicated to the continued education of Internet copyright law and enforcement of such law through the co-operation of international, domestic, federal, state, and local statutes, laws, and ordinances. Additional information can be found at: http://www.apic-worldwide.com http://www.whatiscopyright.org Berne Treaty http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html USC 18-2257 http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2257.html INTEGRITY OF COPYRIGHT MANAGEMENT INFORMATION Article 12 of the WCT provides adequate and effective legal remedies against any person knowingly performing any of the following acts knowing, or with respect to civil remedies having reasonable grounds to know, that it will induce, enable, facilitate or conceal an infringement of any right covered by this Treaty or the Berne Convention: (i) to remove or alter any electronic rights management information without authority; (ii) to distribute, import for distribution, broadcast or communicate to the public, without authority, works or copies of works knowing that electronic rights management information has been removed or altered without authority. In addition, it is a criminal offense to violate section 1201 or 1202 willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain. Under section 1204 penalties range up to a $500,000 fine or up to five years imprisonment for a first offense, and up to a $1,000,000 fine or up to 10 years imprisonment for subsequent offenses. Nonprofit libraries, archives and educational institutions are entirely exempted from criminal liability. (Section 1204 (b)). For additional information on THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT OF 1998 visit: http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf No problems with posting URLS.... ProSolutionPills is registered with GODADDY using their proxy register. __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

02-21-2003, 01:30 PM	#8
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02-21-2003, 02:48 PM	#9
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02-21-2003, 02:50 PM	#10
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02-21-2003, 11:49 AM	#2
Mr.Dee Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 50	I got email from them too.

02-21-2003, 11:49 AM	#3
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Post the email its a little vague from your post

02-21-2003, 11:56 AM	#4
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Post the email. Block out the URL's if you want.

02-21-2003, 12:50 PM	#6
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	You run a sponsor program, right? Maybe they are just sending you a copy because some affiliate of yours is being accused of stealing content? From what I've read about Apic, they falsely accuse people sometimes, so you should ask them for proof before you do anything.

02-21-2003, 01:26 PM	#7
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	Just reply, tell them your story and your questions and they should answer you quickly...

02-21-2003, 03:46 PM	#11
BigFish Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,159	if they want to protect content providers so much then go after acadia. Apic seem like they got nothing else to do but go around wasting their time fucking around with small time webmasters.

02-21-2003, 05:10 PM	#14
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	That's what has always been wrong with APIC, his strategy is just stupid. He hunts down the smallest fish, guys on free hosting it seems to me most of the time, then sends these threatening emails to programs whose banners are on the infringers site, and the free hosts, and anbody else with the slightest connection to the infringement. Like 5 years ago I posted to him on YNOT, put your money where your mouth is, sue a free host if you're so sure that they are liable for all the infringements on them. Sue a processor. Do something other than running around like a hysterical chicken with his head cut off and blaming people who are only tangentially involved in an infringement , in the way he has implicated Darin in this case. He really wants Darin to believe he or the APIC member he is representing are going to sue him because the infringer also happens to be promoting one of Darin's sites? HAHAHAHHAHHA...........get real. There are plenty of real serious cases of infringement this guy could go after hard and they don't involve third parties like a webmaster affiliate program or a free host. Clear cut cases where he could make some big $$$ for those who APIC represents. He's the boy who cried wolf. All the people I know who do own content have nothing to do with APIC, they look after their own biz and instead of yelling and screaming they do take legal action. When was the last time APIC posted a lawsuit by one of their members? A succesful lawsuit. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!