Don't say that. If they go under then I have lost a lot more than $300. I think it would also severely damage the CFF program aswell.

Does WSB process for any other programs ?

Worst case, Lets say they do go down. Does TripleX pay their webmasters or do we get fucked?

Technically speaking, when I decided to push CFF I started working for CFF and not the billing company. Who they choose for billing is their problem right?

Say for instanace one of TopBucks procesors go down, Im sure Topbucks will still find a way to payup. After all, I sell for Topbucks, not CCbill, Epoch or Jettis.

:2 cents:
Ray <-------Shit disturber(so im told)

good point ray

i stopped using my sponsors that use WSB, no payment no traffic.

I think CFF is now offshore so they could probably dodge it. You could go after their officers in the USA if they are citizens.

Guys,

I know at least 1 guy from Triple X media personally. These are upstanding guys, that have been in this buisness for a long time. Provite Lolita was the first site I ever sold, and Paolo was nothing but helpful and honest with me the whole time.

Talking about guys offshore, and going after them in the US is all very premature. I can say with 100% certaintity they are not going to fuck anybody. For what my word's worth.

Website billing.. Like I said they've always paid me. THey've come out and said they recognize they've had problems, and according to Paolo they will be catching up this week. Let's give them the chance to make good on this promise. I'm realtively sure they will.

Neither Triple X Media nor Website Billing is in this buisness to screw us.

Daymon

When concidering a program to promote you should always look at other factors like billing company, the program's billing methods, content, country and reputation.

If WSB does go down (which i doubt it will), im sure CFF would find other means to pay you. Nevertheless you should always consider other factors that may hamper you when promoting a program. Never assume you are doing biz with just the sponsor. YOu have to take everything into account from who they bill with to how they set up thier billing methods and many other factors.

Usally a comany's reputation can speak for itself. CFF being new is establishing its reputation as we speak. Im willing to bet this will all work out just fine. But I have been wrong in the past.

Nevertheless CFF seems solid so I wouldnt worry. WHen it comes to WSB they are on the same boat as you are and are just playing the waiting game.

Hang in there. You'll get paid and this will all ride out im sure.

So any news from wsb today ? (Monday)

nope, weren't we supposed to get an email from them regarding this bullshit excuse for not paying people?

Dear Sir,

The reason for the delay in payment to you are because, we have just
opened a new merchant account with another bank and unfortunately they
have a hold on our account pending charge backs. Its the same thing as
the hold we have on your account due to charge backs. So as soon as we
get that deposit from Shared Global all payments owed will be issued.
Sorry if this delay has caused you any inconvenience.

Respectfully,

--
Carmen Rodriquez
Administrative Assistant / Accounting


bla bla bla

but i think that i will got the money
:)

Got an e-mail from them today and I'm sure they'll pay us soon.
Shit happens but if they would have posted on gfy what was going on I'm sure they would not have this many e-mails from pissed off webmasters.

I have urged them more than once to get on here and reassure webmasters of what their situation is.

In their defence, however, I understand why they would not reply to a thread where people say they suck, or they are cocksuckers, or they wish they would go under.

Like I said before, I'll say again... They will catch up. They are still processing. Thay haven't stopped.

Now go to rectalrooter and get your hosted galleries & content.
Hit me up personally if you need access.

Chris.

Put your faith in Jesus and all will be well my GFY people.

Comfort is forseen in our paths.

I'm in the same boat. First of all no one told me about their '5 day grace period', second of all they abuse that 'grace period' every fucking month.

I talked to Jimmy on the 19th and he gave ME shit for calling, saying the 15th payment isn't due 'till the 20th because of the grace period blah blah blah but it'd be there fer SHURE on the 20th.

Now it's the 24th, still no pay.

When I 'dared' to ask for payment on the 20th of last month, they threatened to close my account. Nice idea of customer service :rolleyes:

am i crazy, or is that a cannabalism reference..?!

Jesus ... dialer ?

No such word as dolcett in the dictionary that I can find. The closest variation is...

Main Entry: <b>dul·cet </b>
Pronunciation: 'd&l-s&t
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English doucet, from Middle French, from douz sweet, from Latin dulcis; perhaps akin to Greek glykys sweet
Date: 14th century
<b>1 </b>: <i>sweet to the taste</i>
2 : pleasing to the ear
3 : generally pleasing or agreeable



Dolcett runs gourmet girls, a bizarre fetishy site, yeah. Something wrong with cannibalism?? :eek7

:Hollering

i would pull any traffic still left with WSB away ASAP.
i get this from everything i've read recently and here, its not looking good and this is not the time to be overly optimistic.



and this one kist tops them all. I've never seena bigger reason to run that this

"""Websitebilling has lots of advantages. We are pushing more transactions through them then I have seen in this business in a long time. They seem to be able to push tranaction through with few declines. """

I got a response from them, but they are into me for a shitload of money and I was polite when I e-mailed them. My conversions with them are better than ever. This appears to be another case of GFY hysteria:

Hello Jay,

Affiliates are paid twice a month. But they are also paid a month behind, the reason for that is that we have to wait for all the charge backs for that month to come in to see if you have received any charge backs. Now that is the case for us also the bank we have a Merchant account with, also holds our money a month behind to see our charge back ratio. That is the reason why payment has not been issued as soon as I receive a deposit from Shared Global I will immediately issue you full payment. Sorry if this delay has caused you any inconvenience.

Respectfully,

--
Carmen Rodriquez

I hope this helps you guys.

hey CDSmith... i thought that Dolcett was an artist who did hand-drawn cannibal cartoons... i've seen some twisted comic pages online that featured women being farmed, dismembered, cooked, fucked and eaten not too long ago, i would have sworn that the artist who did them was 'Dolcett', maybe that was just a website name and i was mistaken... just had to ask..!

WSB owes us thousands since last month. I spoke to Mike Sperber there today, and he said he is POSITIVE everybody will be paid this week. I also asked him to come on this board and reassure people, but nobody from WSB has done so yet.....

If I don't get paid this week, I am pulling the plug on WSB as a processor for us. :ak47:

Yes someone has.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=110896

His name is <a href=http://gofuckyourself.com/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=18135>Michael</a>

hey, thanks! i am glad they responded. now let's hope the money comes through this week....

BTW, i have asked them to fix their inaccurate stats for many months ..... no response there. i would think a stats page should receive top priority from a payment processer's programming team, but i guess i'm being presumptuous. :helpme

WTF?????
That is supposed to be for the first month.
Not every month!!

I think you misnderstood.
What you are saying is that checks will be one month late every month! LOL

Mike finally called me back today. He apoligised up, down, & sideways (as opposed to Jimmy, who's usually confrontational IMLE)and swore I'd be paid in full by no later than friday.

Then again that's what they said LAST thursday :bangbang:

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt this time, but that's twice in two pay periods I've had trouble.

I still haven't been paid..... and roxanne (ext 214) hasn't answered her phone in weeks!

WTF IS GOING ON?

btw, roxanne is the accounting manager...

HAS ANYBODY BEEN PAID YET??????!

I AM PISSED THE FUCK OFF!!!

as of today, my friends who use WSB *still* have not received any checks or wires, fucked up... ccBill, thank you for always actually paying out..!

still nothing unfortunately

this topic looks like never ended story

Bitch better have my money!

word

sooner or later things will work out

I got my first check in a while from them. There were some problems though:

Carmen,

I received a check (009037) for my earnings 1/1/03 - 1/31/03 for 258.10. My total of sales for 1/1/03 - 1/31/03 was 603.02.

If this is my pay for that entire month, I am still owed 344.92 for sales in that period.

Is this check only for the sales from the first two weeks of that month?

Please let me know.

Thanks.

Jay


Anybody else had problems like this?

Do all of you who are owed money process your paysites with WSB or are you just owed from affiliate payouts of toehr sites that you promote? I did not think they were that big?

I've started changing all of my links over to CCBill - it will take a while to shut all of their traffic off - I was sending 1200-2000 hits a day. So far I have only got 1 check from them for 250.00 in November and another one for 258.10 recently.

I have to admint I am VERY CONCERNED with this:

Nov 2002 = 34.95
Dec 2002 = 377.93
Jan 2003 = 630.02
Feb 2003 = 897.60
Mar 2003 = 310.50

Total = 2251.00

I am $1700 in with them right now and things are not looking good!

Fact: These guys havent paid us for over 3 months.

- I've sent 10 emails

- I've made 3 phone calls, all times i've been asked to send an email

- I am owed thousands of dollars, and i'm borrowing money to pay my affiliates.

Are these guys crooks or just behind on their payments?

There's more money in paying you than not paying you.

There's more money in paying you than not paying you.

Breathe in, breathe out.

I'm not keen on a lack of competence (particularly when I'm looking at fairly simple software), but I know that they are trying to do it right, and that they're getting there.

unless they don't have the money to pay you?