Everybody gets that it's not "Obama's Sequester," right? - GoFuckYourself.com

GrantMercury · 02-21-2013, 03:31 PM

Don't fall for the GOP's bullshit.

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The latest semantic spin is to call the looming $1.2 trillion in cuts, which could throw the whole economy back into recession, ?Obama?s Sequester.? House Speaker John Boehner indulged this approach half a dozen times in a floor speech before he went on break, establishing its place in the talking-points firmament.

There are a couple problems with this tactic, as my colleague Michael Tomasky pointed out Tuesday. Congress passed sequestration before the president signed it, and the whole self-defeating exercise was carried out in response to Tea Party Republicans? insistence that we play chicken with the debt ceiling, which ultimately cost America its AAA credit rating.

But here?s the thing. I happened to come across an old email that throws cold water on House Republicans? attempts to call this ?Obama?s Sequester.? ...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...after-all.html

L-Pink · 02-21-2013, 03:34 PM

Again ???.

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GrantMercury · 02-21-2013, 03:41 PM

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Again ???.

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The sequester is all over the news. It's all they're talking about. I've heard so much bullshit about it. The corporate media is doing a typically shitty job of explaining the situation. People need to understand what happened, and why.

Wizzo · 02-21-2013, 03:54 PM

Not that I agree or disagree, just curious do you ever post anything industry or business related?

GrantMercury · 02-21-2013, 04:18 PM

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Not that I agree or disagree, just curious do you ever post anything industry or business related?

When I have something to post, I'll post. When I need industry advice, I'll ask. No worries.

Heath · 02-21-2013, 04:26 PM

His own words, or some BS from Newsweek/Daily Beast. Reading that article really explains why they're broke.

kane · 02-21-2013, 04:29 PM

I am so sick of all of their bullshit. Instead of fixing the problem they just kick the can down the road a little and then in a few months they have to deal with the next crisis to keep the country from collapsing. This way they don't actually have to do anything and can blame the other side for not getting anything done.

_Richard_ · 02-21-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I am so sick of all of their bullshit. Instead of fixing the problem they just kick the can down the road a little and then in a few months they have to deal with the next crisis to keep the country from collapsing. This way they don't actually have to do anything and can blame the other side for not getting anything done.

what's funny is you guys talk about 'keeping the country from collapsing'

isn't that fubar?

Fat Panda · 02-21-2013, 05:07 PM

of course its not obama's sequester...he would never actually cut spending

AdultPornMasta · 02-21-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Don't fall for the GOP's bullshit.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...after-all.html

Pardon me but fuck Obama.

In case you didn't get that, allow me to put it a different way............

FUCK OBAMA!

Robbie · 02-21-2013, 05:27 PM

GrantMercury...

In 2011 we lost a notch on our credit rating as a country.

Congress passed a law called the Budget Control Act Of 2011.

President Obama signed it into law.

Everybody congratulated each other on it. Republicans and Democrats. It was a great day! The news media hailed it as a huge step forward in getting our credit rating back and addressing the debt and deficit problems.

Today...Pres. Obama is pretending that this is some horrible nightmare that must never happend. And Congress is doing the same thing!

Meanwhile...the exact same media news anchors who were joyous and proclaiming The Budget Control Act Of 2011 as a tremendous show of leadership from Pres. Obama in 2011 are now grimly reporting about the horrible "sequestration" that will destroy the country.

It's a goddamn insult to all of us how these politicians and the media are playing us like fools.
Bottom line is...the govt. doesn't want to cut ANYTHING. Cutting takes away the money they are taking from us and diminishes their power.

Robbie · 02-21-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

Not that I agree or disagree, just curious do you ever post anything industry or business related?

No, he does not. He doesn't really have anything of value to offer this ADULT BUSINESS community.

Rochard · 02-21-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I am so sick of all of their bullshit. Instead of fixing the problem they just kick the can down the road a little and then in a few months they have to deal with the next crisis to keep the country from collapsing. This way they don't actually have to do anything and can blame the other side for not getting anything done.

This is exactly what they are doing.

We need a change. Clearly Obama doesn't have the balls.

Here's how it works from... If this vote fails before the deadline, Congress stops. No paycheck, no drivers, no security. No phones, no lights in their offices. No free haircuts - Congress has it's own barber - no paychecks (again), and Congress's secret little bank shuts down meaning no checks can be written.

On top of this, they aren't allowed to leave Washington DC until the problem is fixed.

You want to see shit get done in Congress - shut their crap off. Take away all of their perks and paychecks, they'll fucking jump for us.

AdultPornMasta · 02-21-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

GrantMercury...

In 2011 we lost a notch on our credit rating as a country.

Congress passed a law called the Budget Control Act Of 2011.

President Obama signed it into law.

Everybody congratulated each other on it. Republicans and Democrats. It was a great day! The news media hailed it as a huge step forward in getting our credit rating back and addressing the debt and deficit problems.

Today...Pres. Obama is pretending that this is some horrible nightmare that must never happend. And Congress is doing the same thing!

Meanwhile...the exact same media news anchors who were joyous and proclaiming The Budget Control Act Of 2011 as a tremendous show of leadership from Pres. Obama in 2011 are now grimly reporting about the horrible "sequestration" that will destroy the country.

It's a goddamn insult to all of us how these politicians and the media are playing us like fools.
Bottom line is...the govt. doesn't want to cut ANYTHING. Cutting takes away the money they are taking from us and diminishes their power.

ALL HAIL!

tony286 · 02-21-2013, 06:00 PM

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ALL HAIL!

Yep thats why 100 new millionaires were created during his first term, no bankers went to jail and obamacare is a cash grab for private insurance.

purecane · 02-21-2013, 06:04 PM

On 15 August 1971, the United States unilaterally terminated convertibility of the US$ to gold. This brought the Bretton Woods system to an end and saw the dollar become fiat currency.[1] This action, referred to as the Nixon shock, created the situation in which the United States dollar became a reserve currency used by many states. At the same time, many fixed currencies (such as GBP, for example), also became free floating.

and that is where the problem started.....we will never be able to pay back the interest on fiat currency loaned to the government by the fed....

AdultPornMasta · 02-21-2013, 06:08 PM

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Yep thats why 100 new millionaires were created during his first term, no bankers went to jail and obamacare is a cash grab for private insurance.

100% correct!

Heath · 02-21-2013, 06:09 PM

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Yep thats why 100 new millionaires were created during his first term, no bankers went to jail and obamacare is a cash grab for private insurance.

As a taxpayer, these 100 new millionaires are welcome for the handout. Now give it back.

:: looks at all of the failed green energy companies ::

Robbie · 02-21-2013, 06:12 PM

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As a taxpayer, these 100 new millionaires are welcome for the handout. Now give it back.

:: looks at all of the failed green energy companies ::

BINGO...as usual politicians hand out govt. money to their buddies and cronies and supporters.

Obama is just another politician milking the system. No different than the Bush's, Clinton, Reagan, and on and on back.

Nikki_Licks · 02-21-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is exactly what they are doing.

We need a change. Clearly Obama doesn't have the balls.

Here's how it works from... If this vote fails before the deadline, Congress stops. No paycheck, no drivers, no security. No phones, no lights in their offices. No free haircuts - Congress has it's own barber - no paychecks (again), and Congress's secret little bank shuts down meaning no checks can be written.

On top of this, they aren't allowed to leave Washington DC until the problem is fixed.

You want to see shit get done in Congress - shut their crap off. Take away all of their perks and paychecks, they'll fucking jump for us.

SuckOnThis · 02-21-2013, 07:00 PM

GrantMercury · 02-22-2013, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Where did you get that? It's hard to believe, even granting that the GOP was much more reasonable years ago.

Mr Spock · 02-22-2013, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Don't fall for the GOP's bullshit.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...after-all.html

Off course it is you ignorant fuckwit!!! Who is POTUS??

Barry-xlovecam · 02-22-2013, 05:47 AM

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On 15 August 1971, the United States unilaterally terminated convertibility of the US$ to gold. This brought the Bretton Woods system to an end and saw the dollar become fiat currency.[1] This action, referred to as the Nixon shock, created the situation in which the United States dollar became a reserve currency used by many states. At the same time, many fixed currencies (such as GBP, for example), also became free floating.

and that is where the problem started.....we will never be able to pay back the interest on fiat currency loaned to the government by the fed....

I was there, I remember -- Thanks Tricky Dick -- Nixon fucked us all.
America declared bankruptcy, devalued the US Dollar twice and we headed down the slippery slope.

The 1970 Dollar is worth $0.20 today -- 4/5 of its value gone.

slapass · 02-22-2013, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I was there, I remember -- Thanks Tricky Dick -- Nixon fucked us all.
America declared bankruptcy, devalued the US Dollar twice and we headed down the slippery slope.

The 1970 Dollar is worth $0.20 today -- 4/5 of its value gone.

Yeah, that is what happened...

/sarcasm

SuckOnThis · 02-22-2013, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Where did you get that? It's hard to believe, even granting that the GOP was much more reasonable years ago.

Eisenhower was more left than Obama is....

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower

Robbie · 02-22-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Where did you get that? It's hard to believe, even granting that the GOP was much more reasonable years ago.

In 1956 there was a very real need for all those things. It was still a time when a lot of those actions needed to be worked on.

In 2013...not so much. Those particular problems that Eisenhower was working on have been addressed for 57 years now.

Kinda like how the federal govt. waged a "war on poverty" starting decades ago, spent TRILLIONS of dollars...and yet the streets are still full of homeless people living in poverty.

I think (no..I KNOW) that in the beginning a lot of things the feds try to do have sincere intentions.
But after a few years they become bureaucracies and employers of govt. employees. And they then become never-ending money pits because it becomes what people do to earn a GOOD living.

They no longer address an actual problem, but instead are just another govt. job being paid for by tax dollars while current issues that really could use some federal oversight are shortchanged.

GrantMercury · 02-22-2013, 09:01 AM

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Off course it is you ignorant fuckwit!!! Who is POTUS??

Dumbass, one party is attempting to sabotage America's recovery.

GrantMercury · 02-22-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

In 1956 there was a very real need for all those things. It was still a time when a lot of those actions needed to be worked on.

I read over the list again. Those things are still needed.

sperbonzo · 02-22-2013, 09:08 AM

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Yep thats why 100 new millionaires were created during his first term, no bankers went to jail and obamacare is a cash grab for private insurance.

Exactly correct. Fascism does not own the means of production, it simply controls it.

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SuckOnThis · 02-22-2013, 09:13 AM

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Exactly correct. Fascism does not own the means of production, it simply controls it.

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Bush isnt president anymore, let it go.

pornguy · 02-22-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is exactly what they are doing.

We need a change. Clearly Obama doesn't have the balls.

Here's how it works from... If this vote fails before the deadline, Congress stops. No paycheck, no drivers, no security. No phones, no lights in their offices. No free haircuts - Congress has it's own barber - no paychecks (again), and Congress's secret little bank shuts down meaning no checks can be written.

On top of this, they aren't allowed to leave Washington DC until the problem is fixed.

You want to see shit get done in Congress - shut their crap off. Take away all of their perks and paychecks, they'll fucking jump for us.

They will jump right up unitl the time they get the first check and then do the same exact thing again.

If you want to fix the spending problems, start out with cutting the politicians themselves. But the budgets they have. Cut the income they make, cut the travel, the perks cut it all by 50%.

They all got into those positions saying they wanted to work for the people.

The reality is they got in to get paid. Its a Job for gods sake. But even then while getting paid they are fucking it off just to make more.

stinkyfingers · 02-22-2013, 09:41 AM

we are in deep shit

Rochard · 02-22-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

They will jump right up unitl the time they get the first check and then do the same exact thing again.

If you want to fix the spending problems, start out with cutting the politicians themselves. But the budgets they have. Cut the income they make, cut the travel, the perks cut it all by 50%.

They all got into those positions saying they wanted to work for the people.

The reality is they got in to get paid. Its a Job for gods sake. But even then while getting paid they are fucking it off just to make more.

I'm behind you. Let's do it.

pornguy · 02-22-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm behind you. Let's do it.

Even with the numbers of people we could hit with the message, the media hits more. People believe whats on the TV.

Find a way to cut off the " Idiot tube " and this country might straighten out some.

Mr Spock · 02-22-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Dumbass, one party is attempting to sabotage America's recovery.

What recovery ? its not fucking happening , you will be be sucking Chinese cock in 2016. They own ur lazy welfare loving ass!!!

crockett · 02-22-2013, 01:32 PM

Every thing is Obama's fault didn't you know?

More over at http://www.reddit.com/r/thanksobama

crockett · 02-22-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC

of course its not obama's sequester...he would never actually cut spending

Right.. and the Republicans are bending over backwards to come to a compromise by getting a little and giving in a little. It's always the same BS with the Right.. You guys never want to give up anything of your own, but always expect the other side to give everything to you.

JP-pornshooter · 02-22-2013, 03:05 PM

correct me if i am wrong but i believe we were facing the fiscal cliff sometime back in 2011, shit about to hit the fan, credit rating downgraded.
no agreements in sight, Obama wrote this bill and made it purposely very very grave with the thought that surely congress would find a solution before it would come to this.
congress passed the bill and obama signed it, no?

Rochard, I agree with you 100%.
All voters should unanimously agree NOT to re elect any of those knuckle heads in Congress, ever ever again.. No matter what they individually promise.

DTK · 02-22-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

Rochard, I agree with you 100%.
All voters should unanimously agree NOT to re elect any of those knuckle heads in Congress, ever ever again.. No matter what they individually promise.

I absolutely agree, but good fucking luck with that. in case you haven't noticed, at least 95% of the population is either

1) fully propagandized by major media outlets (locked in to the dem vs rep bullshit)
2) doesn't care, doesn't vote
3) is too lazy to actually do some homework and learn what's really been going on with this country for the last 30+ years.

or any combination of the 3.

sad, tragic, infuriating, but true

Robbie · 02-22-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

I absolutely agree, but good fucking luck with that. in case you haven't noticed, at least 95% of the population is either

1) fully propagandized by major media outlets (locked in to the dem vs rep bullshit)
2) doesn't care, doesn't vote
3) is too lazy to actually do some homework and learn what's really been going on with this country for the last 30+ years.

or any combination of the 3.

sad, tragic, infuriating, but true

You left out "4"

4. Receive some sort of govt. check and vote accordingly to keep that govt. check rolling.

Helix · 02-22-2013, 08:22 PM

It is Obama's sequester. He proposed it.

DTK · 02-22-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You left out "4"

4. Receive some sort of govt. check and vote accordingly to keep that govt. check rolling.

Good point, though i guess i'd sorta lump that in with "1". you're on a team and that's how you're votin'

Robbie · 02-22-2013, 08:39 PM

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Good point, though i guess i'd sorta lump that in with "1". you're on a team and that's how you're votin'

I kinda differentiated between media propaganda and actually getting a check in the mail.
The majority of people who get govt. checks in the mail have never watched a news program in their lives. lol

I knew PLENTY of those types in South Carolina. They never watched the news or had any remote idea what the current big issues are. But they could tell you line for line all the latest stupid dialogue from "Jersey Shore"

DTK · 02-22-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I knew PLENTY of those types in South Carolina. They never watched the news or had any remote idea what the current big issues are. But they could tell you line for line all the latest stupid dialogue from "Jersey Shore"

Intentionally dumbed-down populace

Robbie · 02-22-2013, 09:58 PM

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Intentionally dumbed-down populace

Some people don't have to be intentionally dumbed-down. They just truly don't care.

At least all the folks who watch MSNBC and Fox News and CNN are interested and looking for knowledge and insight. The majority of people don't even bother or care about the news in any way, shape, or form.

DTK · 02-22-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

At least all the folks who watch MSNBC and Fox News and CNN are interested and looking for knowledge and insight.

they won't get much of either from those three, that's the problem

DTK · 02-22-2013, 11:02 PM

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1) fully propagandized by major media outlets (locked in to the dem vs rep bullshit)

Forgot to mention.. the fully propagandized believe they are fully informed. if they only knew...but facts can't get inside their bubbles

GrantMercury · 02-23-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Eisenhower was more left than Obama is....

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower

Yes, I knew Eisenhower was a good Republican. I didn't know the GOP platform was ever that liberal, though. I haven't had time to look into it. It'd be great if the Repubs took their party back from the crazies.

GrantMercury · 02-23-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix

It is Obama's sequester. He proposed it.

The teabagging GOP was playing chicken with the nation's economy. Otherwise there would be no "sequester."

If Obama is guilty of anything, it's being a bad negotiator. I'll concede that.

The driving force behind this dreary fucking mess is the debt ceiling games the Repiggies are playing - the GOP threatening to not pay the bills they themselves have already incurred. This shit has never gone on before. There is no longer any line the teapublicans won't cross.

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,841	GrantMercury... In 2011 we lost a notch on our credit rating as a country. Congress passed a law called the Budget Control Act Of 2011. President Obama signed it into law. Everybody congratulated each other on it. Republicans and Democrats. It was a great day! The news media hailed it as a huge step forward in getting our credit rating back and addressing the debt and deficit problems. Today...Pres. Obama is pretending that this is some horrible nightmare that must never happend. And Congress is doing the same thing! Meanwhile...the exact same media news anchors who were joyous and proclaiming The Budget Control Act Of 2011 as a tremendous show of leadership from Pres. Obama in 2011 are now grimly reporting about the horrible "sequestration" that will destroy the country. It's a goddamn insult to all of us how these politicians and the media are playing us like fools. Bottom line is...the govt. doesn't want to cut ANYTHING. Cutting takes away the money they are taking from us and diminishes their power. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I am so sick of all of their bullshit. Instead of fixing the problem they just kick the can down the road a little and then in a few months they have to deal with the next crisis to keep the country from collapsing. This way they don't actually have to do anything and can blame the other side for not getting anything done.

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JP-pornshooter Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: westcoast usa Posts: 4,007	correct me if i am wrong but i believe we were facing the fiscal cliff sometime back in 2011, shit about to hit the fan, credit rating downgraded. no agreements in sight, Obama wrote this bill and made it purposely very very grave with the thought that surely congress would find a solution before it would come to this. congress passed the bill and obama signed it, no? Rochard, I agree with you 100%. All voters should unanimously agree NOT to re elect any of those knuckle heads in Congress, ever ever again.. No matter what they individually promise. __________________ "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown

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