Where are the gas chambers?

Huh? I asked for proof of gas chambers. You must be confused.
Edit. I thought you quoted me so maybe this is something else.

Just Google "holocaust gas chambers", thousands of images.

My prior post was an answer to Jaeger who claims that the Final Solution didn't exist.

lol i mean post me some actual evidence not people that are far removed writing their opinions, like you know a fucking 1st source document, that says something about bullets being too valuable.. you won't find anything because there isnt anything, in fact there are NO ORDERS AT ALL that say anything about killing jews.

FULL OF SHIT. just saying once again, history is written by the victors and then their teachers teach us these lies and unless you bother to look into you just go right ahead and believe it.

(and btw the way those links you gave were written by jews. and of course they are ever so un-biased INSERT SARCASM)

You aren't gonna show me anything are you? Why is that?

I know, you can't be bothered to read articles from Museums and other such meaningless sources.

Well Jaeger, since your parents decided not to educate you it's not my job either.

So enjoy your ignorance and whatever you do, don't be bothered to read.

Leads to very bad things.

Knowledge.

Franck, if you can't be bothered to use Google then that's your choice.

This is really odd behaviour, you know that right? Why do you refuse to show me proof of gas chambers?

the 'gas chambers' did not exist they were simply de-lousing facilities to get help the people avoid things like typhus which spread easily in cramped conditions such as these camps. Of course these measures did not fully work and many died from disease anyway.

Im not saying jews were treated well but i am saying there was not a plan to kill them all. if that were the case they would have all been dead its just fucking logic. how many russians died in that war fighting the axis? was it 20 million? something like that anyway... and they couldnt kill all the people they kept in camps? why are there so many survivors...? its bullshit, just fucking think logically for a second.....

lol and of course GOOGLE is the source of all things correct... you will get a lot of shit on google, google is not the answer to everything lol if it was why bother studying or learning anything??

So i can claim anything i want and if someone wants proof i just say "Google".
Ok, good to know.

Franck, whatever. Does the big bad google scare you? :)

Jaeger, nowhere did I say google was the only place to look or even the best. It's just the one I use since you seem unable or unwilling to search and read, much less learn.

But, I guess when facts fail you, attack the source.

Wild guess, Google is some sort of Jewish conspiracy, right?

im very tired and near sleep as i first mentioned but thats not the point, I am pretty fucking sure i am more educated than you i went to an elite private school and i have a degree in social science (pyschology), and also honours in psychology. However correct me if i am wrong since i do not know you.

The fact, is i do bother to read, but all you give me is Jewish museum fucking links. CLEARLY BIASED. They have nothing to gain from lying at all do they? only the Israeli state...

Question, are you a Jew?

there is not one single legitimate scholar that refutes the final solution. debating whether or not there was a final solution isn't even a valid debate.

thats not true at all lol david irving comes to mind but there are others. i love these blanket bullshit comments from people. funny.

Facts Jaeger, we're talking facts here. Focus.

I listed a US Museum, a Danish education site, and Thinkquest.

Hardly Jewish sites.

Why do you refuse to show me proof of gas chambers? Is it some kind of secret?

Franck, go troll somewhere else.

No reason for me to post Holocaust pictures on an adult biz board just because you're too lazy.

Or stupid.

Found this video that says gas chambers are a myth:

like i said im tired... US museum yeah well we all know the relationship with the US and jews, similar with the danish.. i did skim those links, yes only skim, im tired, but i did not see anything about bullets being too precious to use on jews which was your point, maybe i missed it?

BTW you did not answer my question, are you jewish? ( i have 2 good jewish friends btw im not being anti-jew here just asking)

I have proof that you went to jail for selling crack.
No, i'm not gonna show it.
Just use Google.

See how that works? Funny, isn't it.

So what REALLY is the reason you refuse to show me proof?

you think david irving is a legitmate scholar? hahahah, derp.

just a bit i found on irving-

Irving's reputation as an historian was widely discredited after he brought an unsuccessful libel case against the American historian Deborah Lipstadt and Penguin Books.

that's your legitimate scholar.... hahahahahahahahahhhh

little more:


The English court found that Irving was an active Holocaust denier, antisemite, and racist, who "associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism",[5] and that he had "for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence"

again,

there is not 1 single legitimate scholar on this planet that does not validate the final solution.

period.

I nominated this thread for 'Retarded Theard of the Month'. I hope it wins. It should..

oh wow you are so clever.. actually YES HE IS he has written massive books that are well established with credibility about WW2. Then of course he got slammed for his views. It happens in all academic fields if you are in the minority you get slammed. Physics, psychology, everthing. It doesn't mean you are wrong. Remember the planet was considered flat until relatively recently. Anyway i digress. there are others as well i just dont know their names off hand and anyway its kind of irrelevant.... Bottom line is do your own research look into shit and stop reading everything the establishment wants you to read.

technically i am a scholar i have a published paper (in psychology).

And i don't validate your final solution. So there. Wrong. Very wrong.

oh but of course im not legitimate right?? and nor is anyone who disagrees with you....

i've done my own research. i'm not the one here trying to back up my view by pointing to anti-semitic nazi sympathers as truthful historians, that would be you.

you can disagree all you want, but you haven't disagreed with me at all. you might want to reread my posts here, i haven't tried to change your mind. i did supply a fact, which is again, not 1 legitimate scholar believes the holocaust did not happen.

There are plenty of still living Holocaust survivors who tell their stories. And their personal stories and recollections corroborate most of what we think about the Holocaust and none of what you say. I don't doubt that diseases couldn't have ravaged the camps, but so did starvation, random executions, gas showers, so on and so forth.

It's like Lance Armstrong and steroids, where there's smoke there is fire.

I guess the living survivors of Auschwitz, Dachau, Warsaw Ghetto, etc. all conspired to tell a different story? There are massive organizations out there that still hunt Nazi war criminals to this day, but it was only a few rogue guys? I think in reality you might be taking some evidence and giving it your own meaning which is far from the truth...

What say you? Are all those living survivors lying or mis-stating the truth?

For the record my gf went to the LA holocaust museum yesterday. There was a random speaker / Holocaust survivor. He talked in detail of the gas chamber. He came from a fairly large family and only him and his mother survived. He was a 9 year old when he entered the camp and only survived by being a run-errand boy.

If you doubt it, go to a Holocaust museum. There are plenty, buildings full of evidence.

And yes, others got it really bad as well including the Russians. And when the Russians entered Germany, the German civilians got it bad as well for payback, including the who knows how many German soldiers who were captured in Russia that never returned. Moreover I am reading a book right now that said the Nazis came to power with only 44% of the vote, and then the Nazis outlawed all other political parties. Many of the soldiers forced to serve / fight, really didn't have a choice, and never even really supported "The Party." Most of the airmen in the Luftwaffe (German Air Force) weren't even supporters of Hitler, and were pretty open about not liking him, but still felt they had to protect their homeland.

My religion doesn't and shouldn't have any bearing on this discussion.

Why would you care?

I'm looking for where I read about the bullets being discussed, haven't found it yet.

tomorrow i will be less tired and will show you some links my friend. and your religion doesnt matter per se, but if you are jewish then i understand your bias... nothing wrong with jews at all, i mean at all, all the jews i know personally are fucking lovely people, but you gotta admit jews kinda have a vested interest in this... i mean without the holocaust bs the israeli state would probably not exist...

death marches certainly were not logical and didn't kill everyone marching either.

In the final months of the Third Reich, as the Allied armies approached Germany, the regime began to evacuate the 715,000 prisoners held in concentration camps. Most of the inmates were being used as forced labour for the German war economy, although under conditions deliberately engineered to weaken and eventually kill them: the Nazis even had a specific term for this, Vernichtung durch Arbeit, "annihilation through work".

Although the prisoners were already very weak or ill after enduring the routine violence, overwork and starvation of concentration camp or prison camp life, they were marched for dozens of miles in the snow to railway stations, then transported for days at a time without food, water or shelter in freight carriages originally designed for cattle. On arrival at their destination, they were then forced to march again to the new camp. Prisoners who were unable to keep up due to fatigue or illness were usually executed by gunshot.


http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar...pix/march2.jpg

evidence is in documents not people's 60 yr old bias memories... Basic Psychology will point out that witnesses generally have very poor memories of events after time passes, people are very suggestable and you can actually insert memories into them by merely using suggestive words and such. However ill post tomorrow when im less tired a link of jews who stated they played soccer and had dances and performed plays in these camps... they dont want you to hear that though do they...

no need, many of us saw the movie a long time ago

Jaeger, I will look forward to continuing this with you tomorrow then.

Tisme, hang on got this for you in the meantime, its very long but its very good, even my bimbo ex gf got through it and liked it...

if you have time you should watch...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

i cannot find the other shorter video i wanted to post but ill have more time to look tomorrow..

Sure, with that type of logic you can come up with an explanation for almost anything. Maybe we should discard all eye witness accounts of everything, including within the legal system? Because eye witness accounts are too faulty, and people are suggestable. Memories can easily be inserted into people....

I guess all the riders that saw Lance Armstrong do steroids were wrong, even though he openly admitted to it... It was figments of their imaginations and the suggestions of him doing steroids altered their memories.

I choose to accept the face value of things, and understand there will be no convincing you. Clearly everyone else got it wrong, and you got it right.

dude psychology teaches that the legal system is flawed with regard to eye witness accounts, its a long story but its what i learnt at university, people are very suggestable after a certain amount of time after an event. the legal system does not take this into account because the legal system is based on brittish law 1000 years old and before that roman law, basically it does not adapt quickly...