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Old 02-16-2013, 06:46 PM   #51
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Strange that such a straightforward question is going unanswered.
Um no i asked him what he means by "IT" the us dollar or the bitcoin.
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another non-government regulated currency

Tulip Bulbs - For a while in Holland "The Currency"
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At the peak of tulip mania, in February 1637, some single tulip bulbs sold for more than 10 times the annual income of a skilled craftsman. It is generally considered the first recorded speculative bubble (or economic bubble)


According to Mackay, the growing popularity of tulips in the early 17th century caught the attention of the entire nation; "the population, even to its lowest dregs, embarked in the tulip trade".[7] By 1635, a sale of 40 bulbs for 100,000 florins (also known as Dutch guilders) was recorded. By way of comparison, a ton of butter cost around 100 florins, a skilled laborer might earn 150 florins a year, and "eight fat swine" cost 240 florins.[7] (According to the International Institute of Social History, one florin had the purchasing power of ?10.28 in 2002.[33])

By 1636 tulips were traded on the exchanges of numerous Dutch towns and cities. This encouraged trading in tulips by all members of society; Mackay recounted people selling or trading their other possessions in order to speculate in the tulip market, such as an offer of 12 acres (49,000 m2) of land for one of two existing Semper Augustus bulbs, or a single bulb of the Viceroy that was purchased for a basket of goods (shown at right) worth 2,500 florins

Tulip mania reached its peak during the winter of 1636?37, when some bulbs were reportedly changing hands ten times in a day. No deliveries were ever made to fulfill any of these contracts because in February 1637, tulip bulb contract prices collapsed abruptly and the trade of tulips ground to a halt.[28] The collapse began in Haarlem, when, for the first time, buyers apparently refused to show up at a routine bulb auction. Only sellers existed, as there were no buyers, at all.
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Sure the price will probably come down again, this time though there is more of an economy in place. One bitcoin gambling site made $500,000 in its first 6 months.. Bit pay has 2000 merchants and growing at a 50% rate every month. The texas holdem industry is huge.. lots of room to grow.. I'm long term. There is also a major US casino about to start accepting them.
Right now
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No chargebacks, instant payments. Couple good reasons. Like I said before you don't even have to deal with bitcoins at all if you dont want. You can accept them and get them converted to cash by the processor.
When my mortgage company starts taking bitcoins. I will start excepting them as payment.

Anyway, you got your answer, yes we are bitcoin haters.

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I want to reply with something good, but you are so ignorant to how bitcoin works it seems I dont know where to start. Do you think when someone pays with a credit card they are paying with american dollars or are they paying with fictional 1's and 0's on a computer?
Those fictional 1s and 0s are backed up by real currency/banks.
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Those fictional 1s and 0s are backed up by real currency/banks.
Imaginary currency will bubble explode some day. Remember this post.
Real currency that they print on the printing press every day? Currencies backed by banks have never collapsed no way.
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Real currency that they print on the printing press every day? Currencies backed by banks have never collapsed no way.
Are you familiar with the federal reserve? Are you going to ensure my bitcoins like the bank insures my money?

Face it. You probably were sucked in to buying a shit ton of bitcoins, now you are here trying to convince the rest of us to take the ride with you. Now you are mad that no one agrees with you.

Let me guess. You are going to build a bonker for the end of the world when construction companies start accepting bitcoins.
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Are you familiar with the federal reserve? Are you going to ensure my bitcoins like the bank insures my money?

Face it. You probably were sucked in to buying a shit ton of bitcoins, now you are here trying to convince the rest of us to take the ride with you. Now you are mad that no one agrees with you.
Yes I'm familiar with the fed they are the main reason that your dollar is worth less and less each day. Actually the dollar has lost 97% of its value since the Fed came into existence.

Where do I sign up for this awesome Fed? lol

I'm not trying to get anyone to buy them. I'm saying places can accept them and never even have to deal with bitcoins. The cash goes right into your bank account. Nothing wrong with more payment options, less fees, and no chargebacks.

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So let me get it right - if some kid invents fake internet currency it is serious business for you?
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Yes I'm familiar with the fed they are the main reason that your dollar is worth less and less each day. Actually the dollar has lost 97% of its value since the Fed came into existence.

Where do I sign up for this awesome Fed? lol

I'm not trying to get anyone to buy them. I'm saying places can accept them and never even have to deal with bitcoins. The cash goes right into your bank account. Nothing wrong with more payment options, less fees, and no chargebacks.


You asked if people still hate bitcoins. You got your answer. That answer is yes. You dont want to believe it. But it is. No one is agreeing with you. That is the answer to your question. Nothing more really to talk about.
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So let me get it right - if some kid invents fake internet currency it is serious business for you?
Serious business for some people

"Bitcoin Casino on track to make a million dollars a year"

http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/bit...illion-a-year/
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Serious business for some people

"Bitcoin Casino on track to make a million dollars a year"

http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/bit...illion-a-year/
LOL, a million a year. Full Tilt used to make that a week just raking poker games.
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I had a bitcoin wallet and it took forever to update the thing and it took up alot of space. Does it store every single transaction ever made on you computer?

The other thing I don't like is people say there are no transaction costs, but I got charged a transaction fee when I bought something. A pretty steep one too because I got a bunch of small transactions in.
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LOL, a million a year. Full Tilt used to make that a week just raking poker games.
Yeah and where are sites like Full Tilt now?

Want to know where they are headed? Bitcoin.

http://www.gambling911.com/businessf...on-012813.html
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Serious business for some people

"Bitcoin Casino on track to make a million dollars a year"

http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/bit...illion-a-year/
And why should not they profit if they see that there are idiots who give real value to imaginary currency.
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Yeah and where are sites like Full Tilt now?

Want to know where they are headed? Bitcoin.

http://www.gambling911.com/businessf...on-012813.html
Full Tilt was doing illegal things. but Poker starts and all the other sites are still around. They just dont allow US traffic to send in money. But European people and the rest of the world can send in money. They arent going broke that is for sure.
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Yeah and where are sites like Full Tilt now?

Want to know where they are headed? Bitcoin.

http://www.gambling911.com/businessf...on-012813.html
Full tilt failed not because of some currency (that they accepted) fail. Absolutely nothing to do with it. You make illogical arguments.
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I had a bitcoin wallet and it took forever to update the thing and it took up alot of space. Does it store every single transaction ever made on you computer?

The other thing I don't like is people say there are no transaction costs, but I got charged a transaction fee when I bought something. A pretty steep one too because I got a bunch of small transactions in.
You can add a fee so that the transaction will be processed faster by the miners. Noone ever said no transaction costs. As far as the blockchain yeah you have to download the full blockchain, but there are "lightweight" clients that dont use the whole chain. Not sure of any names off the top of my head. They are working on that aspect.
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Full tilt failed not because of some currency (that they accepted) fail. Absolutely nothing to do with it. You make illogical arguments.
that is exactly what he does. I tell him my dollars are insured. He tells me something bad about the FED. What he doesnt realize if I put 100k into the bank, I take 100k out. He is just begging for someone to agree with him is all. I wonder how much money it bitcoins he has that he is so desperate for approval.
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Full tilt failed not because of some currency (that they accepted) fail. Absolutely nothing to do with it. You make illogical arguments.
They failed (in the us) because of laws surrounding the currency. The currency is tighly controlled. Bitcoin can't be controlled. Instant cash in's and cash outs no banks to go through.

I showed you proof that big casino's were picking up on it, and I'm still the crazy one.
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I'm happy we implemented bitcoin. It attracted a whole different breed of customer. All bitcoin customers are new customers...every single one. A lot of them tell me they just signed up to promote bitcoin which was pretty cool. These guys are pretty hard core bitcoin users. I will most likely integrate it in our other cam sites as well in the near future.
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I'm happy we implemented bitcoin. It attracted a whole different breed of customer. All bitcoin customers are new customers...every single one. A lot of them tell me they just signed up to promote bitcoin which was pretty cool. These guys are pretty hard core bitcoin users. I will most likely integrate it in our other cam sites as well in the near future.
Finially jeez.
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Um no i asked him what he means by "IT" the us dollar or the bitcoin.
it was blatantly obvious he meant bitcoin.
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it was blatantly obvious he meant bitcoin.
Bitcoins are produced at a predictable rate. Every 4 years it gets cut in half. Up until this past november 50 were produced every 10 minutes. It got cut to 25 this november.. in another 4 years it will get cut in half again. There will only be 21 million ever made. Right now there are about 10.7 million in circulation. Its all written in the code, and the code is open source and constantly being reviewed.
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Bitcoins are produced at a predictable rate. Every 4 years it gets cut in half. Up until this past november 50 were produced every 10 minutes. It got cut to 25 this november.. in another 4 years it will get cut in half again. There will only be 21 million ever made. Right now there are about 10.7 million in circulation. Its all written in the code, and the code is open source and constantly being reviewed.
It is written in stone in open source code. lol
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It is written in stone in open source code. lol
If someone tries to change the code, the rest of the network will reject it. I understand that I'm talking to someone who has no idea how this works.
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If someone tries to change the code, the rest of the network will reject it. I understand that I'm talking to someone who has no idea how this works.
Thats because I live in real life so when i go buy milk they dont laugh at me for trying to buy bitcoins. I am sorry you are some kooky dude who thinks that bitcoins are the next best thing, but you are only the 100th person to come here and say this over the past 3-4 years or whenever bitcoins started to say the same thing, but nothing has changed.

Can you be honost now, and tell us how much money you invested into bitcoins that you created a thread and had to wait 2 pages for someone to agree with you and when it happened you said 'Finally!'

Let us the true story behind this thread.
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Thats because I live in real life so when i go buy milk they dont laugh at me for trying to buy bitcoins. I am sorry you are some kooky dude who thinks that bitcoins are the next best thing, but you are only the 100th person to come here and say this over the past 3-4 years or whenever bitcoins started to say the same thing, but nothing has changed.

Can you be honost now, and tell us how much money you invested into bitcoins that you created a thread and had to wait 2 pages for someone to agree with you and when it happened you said 'Finally!'

Let us the true story behind this thread.
If you go back long enough I was probably one of the first people to talk about bitcoin on here years back. Now look some of the biggest websites in the world are accepting bitcion.. casino's are accepting bitcoin.. even webcam models. lol. Yes there are even debit cards where you can buy your milk with bitcoin.

I'm not trying to be rich, I stated before I only have 10 or so bitcoins. I like the idea.
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I dont think bitcoins are gonna go away. But I do see them being used as a payment option for pirates and I have seen them being mentioned more and more on file locker forums and other pirate sites, so I think once that happens it will cause yet more headaches for copyright holders. I did use to mine them when they first appeared but havent done so in over a year now.
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If you go back long enough I was probably one of the first people to talk about bitcoin on here years back. Now look some of the biggest websites in the world are accepting bitcion.. casino's are accepting bitcoin.. even webcam models. lol. Yes there are even debit cards where you can buy your milk with bitcoin.

I'm not trying to be rich, I stated before I only have 10 or so bitcoins. I like the idea.
LOL. Your passion for it seems that you would own a ton. Aside from my smart ass remarks. My personal opinion is they might stick around as what they are now, but they arent real currency and I would not invest in to them. What are the 'biggest websites in the world' that accept them? Can you give me some examples..
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LOL. Your passion for it seems that you would own a ton. Aside from my smart ass remarks. My personal opinion is they might stick around as what they are now, but they arent real currency and I would not invest in to them. What are the 'biggest websites in the world' that accept them? Can you give me some examples..
wordpress.com

and just yesterday reddit.com

I think wikipedia will be next.

If you would have invested 5k into bitcoins in 2010 you would have about 2 million dollars today. I didn't invest.

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and just yesterday reddit.com

I think wikipedia will be next.

If you would have invested 5k into bitcoins in 2010 you would have about 2 million dollars today. I didn't invest.
Are there people with 2 million dollars that are out there trying to buy that much worth of bitcoins?
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Are there people with 2 million dollars that are out there trying to buy that much worth of bitcoins?
I dont know who does what. Bitcoin has a market cap of about 300 million dollars.. 2 weeks ago it was 250 million.
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Buy Pizza with Bitcoins lol

The Pizza for Coins service has been set up by two programmers as a way to boost use of the digital cash.

The service acts as a middleman and converts bitcoins into US dollars that are used to pay for food. It charges a small fee to do the currency exchange.

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Are there people with 2 million dollars that are out there trying to buy that much worth of bitcoins?
More than you think..
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More than you think..
Ive honostly never thought about it. but I see what you are saying. Still doesnt change my opinion.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:33 AM   #92
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I had a bitcoin wallet and it took forever to update the thing and it took up alot of space. Does it store every single transaction ever made on you computer?
Yes, yes it does
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Each bitcoin will be worth thousands, like gold.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:32 AM   #94
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Large sites accepting it means nothing,since e-gold used to be very popular among sites too and we seen how that ended.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:23 AM   #95
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Large sites accepting it means nothing,since e-gold used to be very popular among sites too and we seen how that ended.
Egold had a central location to shut down. Bitcoin is owned by noone and has no central location
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I've been sitting on a few choice bitcoin domains if anyone is interested.
bitcoinvod.com
bitcoinvideos.com

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Old 03-12-2013, 04:26 AM   #97
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So who is panicking today?
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So who is panicking today?
You wouldn't be able to sell 2m worth of bitcoins. In any instance where there is demand, there is perceived value and a market will be made.

Bitcoins have recovered a bit from there 2011 implosion but they still are not backed, they still have no "faith and force", they are actively referred to as an agent for allowing nefarious transactions and thus "on the radar" of the security folks in a bad way.

Bitcoins are a hobby where 99% of the owners have no idea what they are holding. The "capitalization" you refer to is significantly less than, oh, say, Solyndra. Demand by those who have a little knowledge can sustain a price in an atmosphere of illiquidity, but a currency must have a sustaining value to survive.

Bitcoins have been valuable as a demo concept, so perhaps their legacy will have some value.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:48 AM   #99
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If you would have invested 5k into bitcoins in 2010 you would have about 2 million dollars today. I didn't invest.
Not in 2010 but a little while back I opened an account to invest 5k, they wanted me to jump through hoops to prove identity so I didn't bother.

it was trading around $6 at the time now it's $44

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I have some on an old hard drive. Now to just et them off of their???
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