Barry just said we don't need a bigger government? - GoFuckYourself.com

Vendzilla · 02-12-2013, 07:29 PM

Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

2013 · 02-12-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

you sound like more bs

purecane · 02-12-2013, 07:32 PM

i'm calling bullshit on whatever he says...

Vendzilla · 02-12-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013

you sound like more bs

I asked a good question, stop hating!

CyberHustler · 02-12-2013, 07:41 PM

I like the higher quality early childhood education stuff...

Vendzilla · 02-12-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler

I like the higher quality early childhood education stuff...

California already has that, it's called the head start program

SuckOnThis · 02-12-2013, 07:46 PM

Did you start this thread before or after you went out to your mailbox to collect your govt check?

Supz · 02-12-2013, 07:47 PM

so basically you are surprised a politician is full of shit?

Vendzilla · 02-12-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz

so basically you are surprised a politician is full of shit?

I'm surprised anyone believes otherwise.

http://www.bing.com/politics/stateof...PSERP&crea=771

interesting that it's all negative, average is -54 ? after 8 million votes

Minte · 02-12-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

I am going with...... *MORE BULLSHIT*

Matt 26z · 02-12-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

He has cut the size of the government every month he has been office. Reagan, the man who first championed the smaller government movement, increased the size of the government drastically.

If you are for smaller government, you are for President Obama.

Matt 26z · 02-12-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I'm surprised anyone believes otherwise.

http://www.bing.com/politics/stateof...PSERP&crea=771

interesting that it's all negative, average is -54 ? after 8 million votes

That is in partnership with Fox News and Bing. CNN and MSNBC (no longer associated with Microsoft) did not promote it.

Matt 26z · 02-12-2013, 08:08 PM

Obama is the only president in modern history to cut the size of the government every year he has been in office.

Dvae · 02-12-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

He has cut the size of the government every month he has been office. Reagan, the man who first championed the smaller government movement, increased the size of the government drastically.

If you are for smaller government, you are for President Obama.

Please stop watching MSNBC!

Vendzilla · 02-12-2013, 08:14 PM

The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news...ment/index.htm

Matt 26z · 02-12-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Please stop watching MSNBC!

If you believe that Obama has increased the size of the government, I challenge you to post proof. Get a link in here. It shouldn't be too hard.

I'll be waiting.

But of course you won't post proof because none exists.

DTK · 02-12-2013, 08:15 PM

maybe the right wing screamers were full of shit calling obama a radical "leftist" the whole time. again, if you are capable of dispassionately looking at at his actual record (and not the one the right wing invented), you'll see a right-center record.

there's a reason true liberals and progressives (not that i am one) are pissed at him. Not that BillO or Hannity or whomever would ever tell you that.

not that obama isn't full of shit. he is. he's just another corporate shill like the last 8 presidents, but just sayin'

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Matt 26z · 02-12-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news...ment/index.htm

It depends on how you want to define government employment. The right wing includes everyone on the government's payroll in an attempt to overturn Obama's accomplishment. This includes temporary census employees.

TMM_John · 02-12-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

It depends on how you want to define government employment. The right wing includes everyone on the government's payroll in an attempt to overturn Obama's accomplishment. They include members of the military and even temporary census employees.

Dvae · 02-12-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

If you believe that Obama has increased the size of the government, I challenge you to post proof. Get a link in here. It shouldn't be too hard.

I'll be waiting.

But of course you won't post proof because none exists.

According to the New York Times the federal government has grown under Obama.
Fact-Checking Obama and Romney - NYTimes.com

Size of Government

“The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me.” — Mr. Obama

Again, it depends on how it is counted. Looking at the five months from Mr. Obama’s inauguration to June 2009, when the recession officially ended, and including state and local governments, which are not under his direct control, government employment at all levels was virtually unchanged, from 22,576,000 in January 2009 to 22,570,000 in June, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Total government employment was 21,969,000 in May 2012, a reduction of about 600,000 jobs. But looking only at the federal work force under Mr. Obama’s direct control, then government employment has actually gone up. He inherited a federal work force of 2,061,700, and it rose slightly through June 2009 to 2,109,700; by May of this year, it had grown further to 2,204,100, a 7 percent increase.

Mr. Obama is not correct in saying this was the “only time” government shrank during a recession. During the recession from July 1981 through November 1982, under President Ronald Reagan, and again during the recession from July 1990 through March 1991, under the elder President George Bush, government employment shrank slightly, both over all and in the federal work force specifically. The White House said he meant the recession and the 35 months after it.

Either way, while Mr. Obama has boasted of shrinking the public work force, he has advocated policies to prevent it from shrinking by helping state and local governments avoid laying off employees. In recent days, he has lamented that continuing economic troubles result in part from a decreasing public work force.

purecane · 02-12-2013, 08:30 PM

Monday, March 30, 1981

that's what happens when you try to decrease government

Houdini · 02-12-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

It depends on how you want to define government employment. The right wing includes everyone on the government's payroll in an attempt to overturn Obama's accomplishment. This includes temporary census employees.

And the left includes temp workers only when it's convenient, like employment numbers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_524468.html

Vendzilla · 02-12-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by purecane73

Monday, March 30, 1981

that's what happens when you try to decrease government

GoFuckYourself

Vendzilla · 02-12-2013, 08:57 PM

This Rubio guy, I like him, but how hot were the lights on him?

I'm waiting to hear from Ted Nugent

EonBlue · 02-12-2013, 09:35 PM

"Size of government" does not refer to the number of employees working for the government. It refers to the amount of government spending expressed as a percentage of GDP.

epitome · 02-12-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

This Rubio guy, I like him, but how hot were the lights on him?

I'm waiting to hear from Ted Nugent

Great guy!

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1Y3UXZM_enUS513US513&aq=0&oq=marc+rubio +s&client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=marco+rubio+scandal

02-12-2013, 07:29 PM	#1
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	Barry just said we don't need a bigger government? Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit? __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

02-12-2013, 07:32 PM	#3
purecane Annakin Skywalker Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: megaminds' secret lair Posts: 1,324	i'm calling bullshit on whatever he says... __________________ [email protected]

02-12-2013, 08:14 PM	#15
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget. http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news...ment/index.htm __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

02-12-2013, 08:15 PM	#17
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	maybe the right wing screamers were full of shit calling obama a radical "leftist" the whole time. again, if you are capable of dispassionately looking at at his actual record (and not the one the right wing invented), you'll see a right-center record. there's a reason true liberals and progressives (not that i am one) are pissed at him. Not that BillO or Hannity or whomever would ever tell you that. not that obama isn't full of shit. he is. he's just another corporate shill like the last 8 presidents, but just sayin' see fuckin sig . . __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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purecane Annakin Skywalker Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: megaminds' secret lair Posts: 1,324	Monday, March 30, 1981 that's what happens when you try to decrease government __________________ [email protected]

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CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,062	I like the higher quality early childhood education stuff...

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SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	Did you start this thread before or after you went out to your mailbox to collect your govt check?

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Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	so basically you are surprised a politician is full of shit?

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Obama is the only president in modern history to cut the size of the government every year he has been in office.

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	This Rubio guy, I like him, but how hot were the lights on him? I'm waiting to hear from Ted Nugent __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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EonBlue Apocalypse Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Limbo Posts: 3,043	"Size of government" does not refer to the number of employees working for the government. It refers to the amount of government spending expressed as a percentage of GDP.