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Vendzilla 02-12-2013 07:29 PM

Barry just said we don't need a bigger government?
 
Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

2013 02-12-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19477751)
Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

you sound like more bs

purecane 02-12-2013 07:32 PM

i'm calling bullshit on whatever he says...

Vendzilla 02-12-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19477755)
you sound like more bs

I asked a good question, stop hating!

CyberHustler 02-12-2013 07:41 PM

I like the higher quality early childhood education stuff...

Vendzilla 02-12-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19477771)
I like the higher quality early childhood education stuff...

California already has that, it's called the head start program

SuckOnThis 02-12-2013 07:46 PM

Did you start this thread before or after you went out to your mailbox to collect your govt check?

Supz 02-12-2013 07:47 PM

so basically you are surprised a politician is full of shit?

Vendzilla 02-12-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19477783)
so basically you are surprised a politician is full of shit?

I'm surprised anyone believes otherwise.

http://www.bing.com/politics/stateof...PSERP&crea=771

interesting that it's all negative, average is -54 ? after 8 million votes

Minte 02-12-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19477751)
Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

I am going with...... *MORE BULLSHIT*

Matt 26z 02-12-2013 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19477751)
Is he changing course, or is this more bullshit?

He has cut the size of the government every month he has been office. Reagan, the man who first championed the smaller government movement, increased the size of the government drastically.

If you are for smaller government, you are for President Obama.

Matt 26z 02-12-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19477793)
I'm surprised anyone believes otherwise.

http://www.bing.com/politics/stateof...PSERP&crea=771

interesting that it's all negative, average is -54 ? after 8 million votes

That is in partnership with Fox News and Bing. CNN and MSNBC (no longer associated with Microsoft) did not promote it.

Matt 26z 02-12-2013 08:08 PM

Obama is the only president in modern history to cut the size of the government every year he has been in office.

http://bishopforcongress.com/sites/d...vjobs_lg_1.jpg

Dvae 02-12-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19477799)
He has cut the size of the government every month he has been office. Reagan, the man who first championed the smaller government movement, increased the size of the government drastically.

If you are for smaller government, you are for President Obama.

Please stop watching MSNBC!

Vendzilla 02-12-2013 08:14 PM

The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news...ment/index.htm

Matt 26z 02-12-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19477820)
Please stop watching MSNBC!

If you believe that Obama has increased the size of the government, I challenge you to post proof. Get a link in here. It shouldn't be too hard.

I'll be waiting.

But of course you won't post proof because none exists.

DTK 02-12-2013 08:15 PM

maybe the right wing screamers were full of shit calling obama a radical "leftist" the whole time. again, if you are capable of dispassionately looking at at his actual record (and not the one the right wing invented), you'll see a right-center record.

there's a reason true liberals and progressives (not that i am one) are pissed at him. Not that BillO or Hannity or whomever would ever tell you that.

not that obama isn't full of shit. he is. he's just another corporate shill like the last 8 presidents, but just sayin'

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Matt 26z 02-12-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19477827)
The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news...ment/index.htm

It depends on how you want to define government employment. The right wing includes everyone on the government's payroll in an attempt to overturn Obama's accomplishment. This includes temporary census employees.

TMM_John 02-12-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19477843)
It depends on how you want to define government employment. The right wing includes everyone on the government's payroll in an attempt to overturn Obama's accomplishment. They include members of the military and even temporary census employees.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_orkXxp0bhE...yees-chart.gif

http://mercatus.org/sites/default/fi...nt%20PDF_0.png

Dvae 02-12-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19477828)
If you believe that Obama has increased the size of the government, I challenge you to post proof. Get a link in here. It shouldn't be too hard.

I'll be waiting.

But of course you won't post proof because none exists.

According to the New York Times the federal government has grown under Obama.
Fact-Checking Obama and Romney - NYTimes.com

Size of Government

“The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me.” — Mr. Obama

Again, it depends on how it is counted. Looking at the five months from Mr. Obama’s inauguration to June 2009, when the recession officially ended, and including state and local governments, which are not under his direct control, government employment at all levels was virtually unchanged, from 22,576,000 in January 2009 to 22,570,000 in June, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Total government employment was 21,969,000 in May 2012, a reduction of about 600,000 jobs. But looking only at the federal work force under Mr. Obama’s direct control, then government employment has actually gone up. He inherited a federal work force of 2,061,700, and it rose slightly through June 2009 to 2,109,700; by May of this year, it had grown further to 2,204,100, a 7 percent increase.

Mr. Obama is not correct in saying this was the “only time” government shrank during a recession. During the recession from July 1981 through November 1982, under President Ronald Reagan, and again during the recession from July 1990 through March 1991, under the elder President George Bush, government employment shrank slightly, both over all and in the federal work force specifically. The White House said he meant the recession and the 35 months after it.

Either way, while Mr. Obama has boasted of shrinking the public work force, he has advocated policies to prevent it from shrinking by helping state and local governments avoid laying off employees. In recent days, he has lamented that continuing economic troubles result in part from a decreasing public work force.

purecane 02-12-2013 08:30 PM

Monday, March 30, 1981

that's what happens when you try to decrease government

Houdini 02-12-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19477843)
It depends on how you want to define government employment. The right wing includes everyone on the government's payroll in an attempt to overturn Obama's accomplishment. This includes temporary census employees.

And the left includes temp workers only when it's convenient, like employment numbers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_524468.html

Vendzilla 02-12-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19477860)
Monday, March 30, 1981

that's what happens when you try to decrease government

GoFuckYourself

Vendzilla 02-12-2013 08:57 PM

This Rubio guy, I like him, but how hot were the lights on him?

I'm waiting to hear from Ted Nugent

EonBlue 02-12-2013 09:35 PM

"Size of government" does not refer to the number of employees working for the government. It refers to the amount of government spending expressed as a percentage of GDP.

epitome 02-12-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19477895)
This Rubio guy, I like him, but how hot were the lights on him?

I'm waiting to hear from Ted Nugent

Great guy!

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1Y3UXZM_enUS513US513&aq=0&oq=marc+rubio +s&client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=marco+rubio+scandal


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