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Originally Posted by kyro
(Post 19426855)
this part is wrong. people should not be given a choice to break the law when it can easily be prevented. make assualt rifle illegal and dont sell them, then you don't need to leave it up to the person if they want to break the law. easy.
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They have to be given the chance to break a law, otherwise they would be enslaved humans doing only what they were instructed to do. Part of being a free or somewhat free human is the freedom to make the wrong choices.
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Originally Posted by bronco67
(Post 19426947)
Can't compare cars and guns, because cars are infinitely more useful to civilian society than guns. We can lose guns, but not cars -- unless you want to put wheels on a rifle and load people into it.
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I live in an area of the world where there are more bicycles and mopeds than cars. China alone has 1/3 of the world's population and the majority of them do not own cars. You only think you need a car. Cars are nothing more than a convenience. Guns existed long before cars and people got around just fine. And while guns may be less useful than a car, it is still the operator who decides what it is used for.
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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter
(Post 19427096)
well there is a practical purpose to a car, it is a means of transportation. the speed limit is not absolute, some places you can safely go faster so some flexibility is in order. some cars have speed chips, and i am pretty sure more of this technology is coming. this is a different debate though, but if your objective is to save lives then it should be looked upon. however it should not detract from the gun control debate.
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As far as I know the top speed limit is only 85mph. When speed limits reach 140 - 160mph in the USA we'll have that debate. Though, a speed chip is a brilliant invention if they put them on every car on the road.
There is no such thing as real gun control. I honestly don't understand how so many of you refuse to acknowledge the elephant sitting in the room, which is criminals and violent crazy people do not follow the law, ever. People who are gung-ho on killing others obviously throw the concept of law out of the window the moment they decide to go on a killing spree. You can pass 10000000000 gun laws and it doesn't matter to those who are actually going to use them for killing someone. Gun laws penalize honest and responsible citizens, that's it.
You can never legislate your way out of a problem that is created by violent people. NEVER. Won't work. Can't work. But I'll play along and lets say they ban assault weapons totally. OK, pats on the back for everyone. Now what is going to happen when the next crazy uses an existing assault weapon and kills a bunch more kids? A 2nd ban on them? "This time we really mean it." OK, so somehow they magically round them all up and destroy them. Criminals and crazy will then choose the next weapon of choice, which will be a semi-automatic or just a handgun. 7 bullets from a good shot can kill 7 kids. And with a speed loader, you can kill 7 more probably before someone *might* take you down. This is assuming you only have one 7 shot pistol. Ban them too? I could fuck up a small room full of people with a shotgun if I wanted to. Ban them? Good luck with all that.
These whack jobs are going to use whatever tools are at their disposal. So unless they confiscate and destroy every gun in the world (which would be great), not a single law is going to change anything. |
