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Old 12-19-2012, 10:48 AM   #1
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why do you own a gun? this is why I do:

when I lived in Hollywood about 15 years ago, and "black man" entered the apartment next door to mine and murdered 2 young women with a shotgun.. I had no gun and was VERY uncomfortable.

I had no way to protect myself if the guy decided to come to my place next and I had nowhere to run. took the cops over an hour to get there. the cops job is NOT to protect people. the cops are only to enforce the law.

I now have a gun available to me... and in over 15 years I've only considered getting it twice, both times in my home when being confronted with aggressive violent people.

once I woken in the middle of the night when I felt the apartment shift like someone was walking and then bathroom door shut and the light went on... I got up and walked over, pulled open the door and some random guy was chopping lines on the bathroom counter...

I asked him to leave... I did NOT pull my gun or even get the gun. that's my experience with guns and why I have one... you don't want a gun... fine, leave me alone with mine.
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I feel sorry for your neighbours that they have to live next to a guy with a gun.
I know it would make me feel VERY uncomfortable.
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I like to know that if somebody is trying to kill me that I have the tools to defend myself. I hope I never have to fire it on a person but if I do, it will be well deserved.
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I wish every American would have a gun. I'd just sit here and watch and smile.
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I feel sorry for your neighbours that they have to live next to a guy with a gun.
I know it would make me feel VERY uncomfortable.
We get it man. Guns are bad, blah, blah blah. However, I don't live in a happy land of windmills, techno and wooden shoes. There are tons of crazy motherfuckers on Meth all over my area. If they try to rob and/or kill me or my family, you bet your ass they will catch a hot one.
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We get it man. Guns are bad, blah, blah blah. However, I don't live in a happy land of windmills, techno and wooden shoes. There are tons of crazy motherfuckers on Meth all over my area. If they try to rob and/or kill me or my family, you bet your ass they will catch a hot one.
Every single gun owner here seems to live in an area that's full of rapists, murderers and meth labs. I'm not joking. Every single one of them.
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Every single gun owner here seems to live in an area that's full of rapists, murderers and meth labs. I'm not joking. Every single one of them.
Welcome to any big city in the USA
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move out of the ghettos.
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move out of the ghettos.
I don't live in the ghetto. The average home price in my zip code is high and crime is very low. I do venture outside my area and I also want to protect my home. Get it?
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Every single gun owner here seems to live in an area that's full of rapists, murderers and meth labs. I'm not joking. Every single one of them.
The dirt-bags have cars and drive where the money is.
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I don't live in the ghetto. The average home price in my zip code is high and crime is very low. I do venture outside my area and I also want to protect my home. Get it?
so you take a gun with you wherever you go? seems overly paranoid.
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why? Then criminals in the ghettos will leave and come to the good neighborhoods to rob us..
the chances of the average person actually being robbed is not very high, even less chances of a home invasion. sure these things happen, and they obviously happen to someone but its not like 50% of the population or even 30% will be robbed at some point in their lives. do you really feel more secure owning a gun? because it seems everyone who owns one is really scared of something happening.
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so you take a gun with you wherever you go? seems overly paranoid.
It's insane.
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the chances of the average person actually being robbed is not very high, even less chances of a home invasion. sure these things happen, and they obviously happen to someone but its not like 50% of the population or even 30% will be robbed at some point in their lives. do you really feel more secure owning a gun? because it seems everyone who owns one is really scared of something happening.
The only thing they really should be worried about is all the resposible gun owners walking around with guns for self protection.
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I was listening to a radio program about the gun laws in the USA and the stats they were saying is that 90% of people who are shot in the US have or own guns
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I was listening to a radio program about the gun laws in the USA and the stats they were saying is that 90% of people who are shot in the US have or own guns
wtf does being shot have to do with ownership?? just because you own a gun its suppose to prevent you from being shot?
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Every single gun owner here seems to live in an area that's full of rapists, murderers and meth labs. I'm not joking. Every single one of them.
Nope..none of that where I am at.

However,there are a lot of people in my area that do well.
And we are targets for crime. Isolated on large pieces of property. My property is heavily wooded. If someone decided to break in, our security system will go off. If there are any county sheriff officers in the area they might get to my house in 5 minutes. Odds are there won't be and if will take them much longer to arrive. Even minutes can make a difference.

I don't own an assault rifle. I have no need or desire for one.
If I can't make my presence known with my pump shotgun or handgun then I don't see how an assault weapon will serve me. IF you were sneaking around my house in the dark and you heard the sound of a round being chambered in a 12g...you probably wouldn't hang around . It's a very intimidating sound.
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In my case the police response time would be less than a minute. We are a small town and I am off a main road, not far from the police. I am also in the middle of suburbia surrounded by thousands of other houses, so the odds of someone targeting me are pretty slim.

I have firearms, but not really for home defense.
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wtf does being shot have to do with ownership?? just because you own a gun its suppose to prevent you from being shot?
Well thats what most gun owners seem to think. If you own a gun you can shoot the bad guy before he shoots you, but according to the stats they were saying that 90% of people who were killed by guns owned guns themselves.
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Well thats what most gun owners seem to think. If you own a gun you can shoot the bad guy before he shoots you, but according to the stats they were saying that 90% of people who were killed by guns owned guns themselves.
Another reason why everyone that owns a gun should be CARRYING the gun at all times.
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I feel sorry for your neighbours that they have to live next to a guy with a gun.
I know it would make me feel VERY uncomfortable.
so if a couple of brothers stopped by in the next apt, started murdering young woman with a shotgun you would sit there drink beer and watch football? hell of a guy there ...
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I had no way to protect myself if the guy decided to come to my place next and I had nowhere to run. took the cops over an hour to get there. the cops job is NOT to protect people. the cops are only to enforce the law.
Sadly that's the reality we live in and why most people get guns in this country.

The average response time for a 911 calls is 6 minutes. In 6 minutes you could be faced with ending someone else's life who has broken into your house, or they end your life.

Having a gun and being responsible about it is what makes you live longer, and one less person out there to rob or kill another person.

It's like the movie "Wanted" where Angelina Jolie's character tells about the story of her father being killed and her being cut... That one person didn't do their job of getting rid of that bad person, and as a result 3 other peoples lives were ended and/or ruined because of it.

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I was listening to a radio program about the gun laws in the USA and the stats they were saying is that 90% of people who are shot in the US have or own guns
90%of the people shot in the USA are black people with guns
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of course not, he'd want to fuck the black guys.. he's dutch man.
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so called ghettos anywere in the world are relatively safe aside from petty thievery. nobody really wants to hurt you as there is no gain or motive, they just want your silly electronic gadgets then they're out the window. i've had my house robbed twice in 2 yrs and in both instances caught the little jits in the act. last time one fled and the other hid in my shower stall, behind frosted glass of all things. when i grabbed my machete he screamed like a bitch and jumped out the 2nd floor bathroom window. loco homeowner no necesito pistolas
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the chances of the average person actually being robbed is not very high, even less chances of a home invasion. sure these things happen, and they obviously happen to someone but its not like 50% of the population or even 30% will be robbed at some point in their lives. do you really feel more secure owning a gun? because it seems everyone who owns one is really scared of something happening.
They're not scared, it's all about the hero complex...
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Well if thats the case then owning a gun will not protect you

I said this before. When I lived in South Africa I was brought up with a massive gun culture which I thought was normal and pretty cool, when I left South Africa. It made me realise just what a fucked up and violent place I was living in and im glad to be out of it. Its so easy to pull the trigger....
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99% of the meth is smoked by white people what?
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here you are spinning that shit again you know nothing about. Seriously? -you a Canadian know American home invasion % statistics? As you then decide the seriousness and scared levels? As an American I'll explain it to you very simply.

YOU're FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD.

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I think you have some serious anger issues. I've never been a victim of any crime. Should I be worried that I will be in the future? Stop living in a state of fear. Guns are only making people even more paranoid.
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Nope..none of that where I am at.

However,there are a lot of people in my area that do well.
And we are targets for crime. Isolated on large pieces of property. My property is heavily wooded. If someone decided to break in, our security system will go off. If there are any county sheriff officers in the area they might get to my house in 5 minutes. Odds are there won't be and if will take them much longer to arrive. Even minutes can make a difference.

I don't own an assault rifle. I have no need or desire for one.
If I can't make my presence known with my pump shotgun or handgun then I don't see how an assault weapon will serve me. IF you were sneaking around my house in the dark and you heard the sound of a round being chambered in a 12g...you probably wouldn't hang around . It's a very intimidating sound.

What he said ^^^

I live in a very affluent area in Los Angeles. Very near to GrapeSoda I think. AgouraHills.

There are about 5 home invasions every 6 months in the 15-18 mile radius of our house.

There's this new thing that the gang bangers in bad neighborhoods 30-40 miles from the nice areas do called "Flocking".

Essentially they have to drive out of the ghettos because there's nothing else left in the ghettos to steal.

They attack well to do neighborhoods in unincorporated areas, where it takes a longer time for the police to get to the homes.

Tie up the inhabitants, rip their houses apart, take what they want, and in some cases, sexually assault or rape the occupants.

It happens.

People who live in foreign countries don't know what the culture has turned into in the USA, especially in big cities.

Gates don't protect you. Securities don't protect you.

My Mossberg protects me and my family should it ever happen. I don't live in fear. Not one bit. I live prepared.

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What he said ^^^

I live in a very affluent area in Los Angeles. Very near to GrapeSoda I think. AgouraHills.

There are about 5 home invasions every 6 months in the 15-18 mile radius of our house.

There's this new thing that the gang bangers in bad neighborhoods 30-40 miles from the nice areas do called "Flocking".

Essentially they have to drive out of the ghettos because there's nothing else left in the ghettos to steal.

They attack well to do neighborhoods in unincorporated areas, where it takes a longer time for the police to get to the homes.

Tie up the inhabitants, rip their houses apart, take what they want, and in some cases, sexually assault or rape the occupants.

It happens.

People who live in foreign countries don't know what the culture has turned into in the USA, especially in big cities.

Gates don't protect you. Securities don't protect you.

My Mossberg protects me and my family should it ever happen. I don't live in fear. Not one bit. I live prepared.

i hope you keep it by your side loaded at all times, otherwise, chance are it will be useless or possibly even used on you/your family.
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i hope you keep it by your side loaded at all times, otherwise, chance are it will be useless or possibly even used on you/your family.
I'm a five year police veteran, a decorated military police officer, and served 3 of my 5 years on the tactical SRT team. I'm plenty familiar with the use of force, tactical operations, and responsible handling of firearms.

I think I'm ok.
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..hero complex? Interesting, Ive been offered a concealed carry as the local Sheriff in my parish is the ONLY person who can issue them. I've declined twice because I have no interest carrying a gun because they're simply too heavy.
It's all about you?

USA has a deep ceded hero complex.
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Must suck to live in constant fear of being robbed that you need to arm yourself to feel safe. Glad I live where I live.
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What he said ^^^

I live in a very affluent area in Los Angeles. Very near to GrapeSoda I think. AgouraHills.

There are about 5 home invasions every 6 months in the 15-18 mile radius of our house.

There's this new thing that the gang bangers in bad neighborhoods 30-40 miles from the nice areas do called "Flocking".

Essentially they have to drive out of the ghettos because there's nothing else left in the ghettos to steal.

They attack well to do neighborhoods in unincorporated areas, where it takes a longer time for the police to get to the homes.

Tie up the inhabitants, rip their houses apart, take what they want, and in some cases, sexually assault or rape the occupants.

It happens.

People who live in foreign countries don't know what the culture has turned into in the USA, especially in big cities.

Gates don't protect you. Securities don't protect you.

My Mossberg protects me and my family should it ever happen. I don't live in fear. Not one bit. I live prepared.

Go and live is South Africa and then come back and tell me a gun will protect you

In South Africa our iron fence when from 2 foot tall to just under 6foot with spikes on the top, We had bars on our windows, and metal security gates on our external doors, my dad owned a gun, We even had armed responce security but it still did not stop us from being robbed 5 times and my mom from being mugged.

I have a very close freind who is a SAP (police) he was off duty and always carried a gun He is now in a wheel chair because he was held up at gun point over his car after which they shot him in the back anyway.

Some people now have multiple metal locked doors within thier own houses for security, which means even going to the toilet you have to unlock these doors, because guns dont stop crime.
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I'm a five year police veteran, a decorated military police officer, and served 3 of my 5 years on the tactical SRT team. I'm plenty familiar with the use of force, tactical operations, and responsible handling of firearms.

I think I'm ok.
You are ok. But I can get a concealed firearm in my state with $75 ($25 for the 2 hr education course requirement) and up to $50 permit fee. You want a bunch of people meeting these requirements w/ concealed handguns?
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I'm not going to read or participate in all this foreigner rhetoric. I do not live in fear. Far from it. You foreigners are not equipped to understand. Have a good one. I've used up my 5 minutes of GFY time this week any how.

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not all guns are protection. do you guys hunt for anything else besides maple syrup?
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I'm not going to read or participate in all this foreigner rhetoric. I do not live in fear. Far from it. You foreigners are not equipped to understand. Have a good one. I've used up my 5 minutes of GFY time this week any how.

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I think I am very equiped to understand after living 18 years over in South Africa where in some parts guns rule and life means nothing ...

Happy Holidays to you to
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Must suck to live in constant fear of being robbed that you need to arm yourself to feel safe. Glad I live where I live.
We're glad you live where you live too. Bryan

Constant fear..seriously? I do believe this is the first time I have ever used that smilie.
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Because Freedom can't exist without having the ability to protect yourself.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
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Because Freedom can't exist without having the ability to protect yourself.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
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Because Freedom can't exist without having the ability to protect yourself.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
I doubt it would really work out if it came down to that but regardless, in the meantime, innocent people are dying.
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I doubt it would really work out if it came down to that but regardless, in the meantime, innocent people are dying.
Never under estimate the power of the people. There's a reason why this country has never been occupied.

"All enemies, foreign and domestic" doesn't mean they will be wearing towels on their heads.
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nah, the other Americans who pulled a ticket waiting in line to answer your post might agree with you.
Ok then, rage on.
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"All enemies, foreign and domestic" doesn't mean they will be wearing towels on their heads.
those kids were sacrificed for freedom and liberty i suppose then. the parents should be proud.
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those kids were sacrificed for freedom and liberty i suppose then. the parents should be proud.
Where do people come up with this type of bullshit? What a fucking idiot...
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