Forget Condoms, Meet the Biggest Enemy Porn Has

[mikesouth]

From
http://www.mikesouth.com


Fabian Thylmann is Porn Enemy Number One
By MikeSouth
November 12th, 2012

I stepped back a bit from the whole condom thing and started thinking about who or what has done the most damage to Porn Valley. Now right now if you ask people they will tell ya that its AHF, Michael Weinstein, that condom legislation. Of course that isn’t what they were saying just a few months ago. Then it was piracy. AVN even did an article on it in the July edition and all the porners they asked agreed piracy was the biggest problem they faced. One person, Dan from Girlfriends Films thought it was condom legislation.

But the truth is they were right, piracy has decimated the industry like nothing else, that is and should be porn enemy number ONE.

Take a look at the gaping asshole to the left. That is the face of modern piracy. His name, as most of you know, is Fabian Thylmann and the company he runs, Manwin, owns eight of the ten largest piracy tube sites in the world. He and the company he manages have done more to decimate Porn Valley than a hundred Michael Weinsteins. Even to this day he continues to make pirated content available for free via his tube sites and the owners of the content like Marie Madison are summarily ignored when they ask him to remove it or DMCA him.

In her own words:

“Okay I’ve had it. Fabian you siad you aren’t into dealing with stolen content. But you have tons of my content. You have no legal issue to use it. You and My hotbooks.com are using content that you have no right too. No matter how many DMCA’s I send or have other verified people send you DMCA’s you continually use it. I have eamiled you directly Fabian with no reply. You are using content that you have NO RIGHT TOO, yet you continually use my content. So step up Fabian, you either license it legally or put a stop to piracy; You claim you don’t deal in stlolen content. Yet no matter how many DMCA notices I send or have other’s send on my behalf you still pedal my content.

If you want my content then deal with me. Not just put it up; Fuck you and your “I do not deal in stolen content anymore” you do! You are showing my content with no rights to it. So many others are kissing your ass. Im sick of you and your given attitude that you can take whatever content you want without permission. You have ruined this industry, by taking what is not YOURS. The rest of you can kiss Fabian/Manwins ass. But until he actually steps up and actually pays for content he does not own he can kiss my ass.

Fabian you are the reason this industry is in disarray. You claim you aren’t into illegal content but ye you continually use content you have no right too. You got screeners from my distributor and turned it down for licensing. Now, all of my content is all over your sites. You dont respond to my DMCA requests, and if you do it is for only a day or two. Step up Fabian/Manwin and do what is right.”

There are an awful lot of people who are finally waking up to the fact that this ass pimple is a scourge on the industry, but it may be too little too late. Manwin has bought up much of the industry in “fire sale” conditions. He has also bought the FSC. Diane Duke who was not long ago whoring for money using the mantra piracy is destroying us is now the hand puppet of of Fabian Thylmann.

So when you look at your bottom line and its in shambles compared to what it was five or six years ago, remember to thank this guy for making that happen, this particular dick is so diseased with lying and corruption that a whole box of condoms won’t protect the industry. And there’s not a fucking thing you can do about it.

[Dirty F]

Oh my...

See sig!

[Penny24Seven]

Two people I know the most have almost same stats as I do, my income went up every year from 2000 to 2008 and down every year since then. My two friends who run 10 and 30 times more sites then me are about the same except 2007 was peak. So what all went down around that time to fuck shit up again?

[Roald]

Fabian makes you hard huh...

PS did you forget to credit Xbiz where you found the quote from Marie?
http://www.xbiz.net/index.php?c=disc...thread&id=7425

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

From
http://www.mikesouth.com


Fabian Thylmann is Porn Enemy Number One
By MikeSouth
November 12th, 2012

I stepped back a bit from the whole condom thing and started thinking about who or what has done the most damage to Porn Valley. Now right now if you ask people they will tell ya that its AHF, Michael Weinstein, that condom legislation. Of course that isn?t what they were saying just a few months ago. Then it was piracy. AVN even did an article on it in the July edition and all the porners they asked agreed piracy was the biggest problem they faced. One person, Dan from Girlfriends Films thought it was condom legislation.

But the truth is they were right, piracy has decimated the industry

Well I have no clue who you are and I only know about Mr. Thylmann because of this forum. But since I enjoy a good spectacle, I would just like to give you some advise.

Set up on your site an annonymous tips section.

A simple form that anyone can come and send you a little message without the need for registering, e-mail address or worry about being tracked. Certainly you would get a lot of garbage but I am also certain you would be nicely surprised at who would be willing to communicate what they know. (All it takes is one angry employee to tell you what she knows)

Perhaps you could also set up an account where people can donate money for a reward to the person that gives the tip/information that sees your end goal achieved. (All it takes is one person to need the money)

[mikesouth]

anon tips is an excelent idea TY


as for those of you kissing fabians ass.....go right ahead....and XBiz.net got credit though its not theirs its Maries....

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by pornopete

Wouldn't the term 'Meet' imply that you are introducing us to somebody new? We've all known about your boner for Fabian for a long time.

So busy concentrating on Fabian that anybody new could walk past him dressed in orange and blowing a trumpet and go unnoticed.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

anon tips is an excelent idea TY


as for those of you kissing fabians ass.....go right ahead....and XBiz.net got credit though its not theirs its Maries....

Getting tired of the same old news has nothing to do with kissing someones ass Mike. Did you really have nothing better to post this week than a re-run of the last 4 years?

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Roald

Fabian makes you hard huh...

PS did you forget to credit Xbiz where you found the quote from Marie?
http://www.xbiz.net/index.php?c=disc...thread&id=7425

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by Roald

Getting tired of the same old news has nothing to do with kissing someones ass Mike. Did you really have nothing better to post this week than a re-run of the last 4 years?

After you are done with porn you could start printing maps to all the super markets and stores that offer free samples so cheap people do not have to pay for food anymore.

[glamourmodels]

That's why I do cams! No pirates-

[ruff]

I'm curious as to why Marie Madison would not (or maybe she has) engage an attorney to sue for copyright violation. If would seem to be fairly easy to find a lawyer that would work for a percentage of settlement for such an open and shut case. It would seem to be kind of hard to defend if you are caught red-handed using other peoples property to make money. If someone steals from you and you can prove it, how can they defend themselves?

[Evil Chris]

This one could go on awhile.

[xNetworx]

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by Roald

Getting tired of the same old news has nothing to do with kissing someones ass Mike. Did you really have nothing better to post this week than a re-run of the last 4 years?

if you dont like it theres a cure for it...dont fucking read it....

I may end up the last man standing but I wont be kissing Fabians ass....

condoms are a minor irritation compared to this cancer....

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by ruff

I'm curious as to why Marie Madison would not (or maybe she has) engage an attorney to sue for copyright violation. If would seem to be fairly easy to find a lawyer that would work for a percentage of settlement for such an open and shut case. It would seem to be kind of hard to defend if you are caught red-handed using other peoples property to make money. If someone steals from you and you can prove it, how can they defend themselves?

That's what I don't understand, everyone's bitching about them using their content even after countless DMCA's... So why not step it up and get legally involved?

Stop whining and fucking act, you lazy son of a bitches.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

if you dont like it theres a cure for it...dont fucking read it....

I may end up the last man standing but I wont be kissing Fabians ass....

condoms are a minor irritation compared to this cancer....

And there is a cure for when you don't like the comments too, don't fucking post it on a public message board

Ps piracy is a cancer to the industry I agree, I just don't pin it to 1 person. I also don't go on and on about it ;)

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

if you dont like it theres a cure for it...dont fucking read it....

I may end up the last man standing but I wont be kissing Fabians ass....

condoms are a minor irritation compared to this cancer....

try some old fashioned ways of contact as well. Such as a post office box. Put the address on your site.

[shimmy2]

mike you're a cool cat. really. i was 10 feet away from you during your famous xbiz speech. you got nuts man. but you're giving this dude way too much shine like he's dr evil almighty... whatshisname from inspector gadget:



no single person and/or company can make or break this industry there are too many independents/rogues/rebels etc for this to happen. unless one company owns all the hosting, billing, and other struts that support everyones day to day ops business will continue as usual. this dude just so happens to be fortunate for the moment to have a chokehold on content/distribution and most people know this. do i think they will be around 10 years from now... heh. but if you still put out good stuff and stream it so its next to impossible to rip/share then you should be all good provided there is a demand for what you have. am i right or wrong here?

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

whatshisname from inspector gadget:

Doctor Claw.

[CaptainHowdy]

I refuse to read all that ...

[L-Pink]

I wish content thieves were treated like horse thieves.

[Adam_M]

The biggest enemy of the porn industry is that 90% of all sites are run by lazy stupid fucks who got on the gravy train when money came easy.

Fabian runs a company that shoots quality content, has good support and works hard. Power to Fabian and the 10% of smart people in this industry who are still producing good products and kicking ass!

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by Adam_M

The biggest enemy of the porn industry is that 90% of all sites are run by lazy stupid fucks who got on the gravy train when money came easy.

Fabian runs a company that shoots quality content, has good support and works hard. Power to Fabian and the 10% of smart people in this industry who are still producing good products and kicking ass!

Interesting reply. Adam, I agree with your first part 100%, and I think you're missing the point 100% on the second part.

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

no single person and/or company can make or break this industry there are too many independents/rogues/rebels etc for this to happen.

Exactly the point I made in the original thread on Xbiz the started this topic, if Fabian rode off into the sunset today it would have very little effect on the overall industry as a whole.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Roald

Fabian makes you hard huh...

PS did you forget to credit Xbiz where you found the quote from Marie?
http://www.xbiz.net/index.php?c=disc...thread&id=7425

The irony of stealing a quote from xbiz in a blog post complaining about stealing stuff is brilliant. Well spotted.

[BFT3K]

We need a "Stand Your Ground" law for internet crimes.

Self-defense is self-defense.

No tears will be spilled as far as I can tell.

[EriktheRabbit]

Originally Posted by Adam_M

The biggest enemy of the porn industry is that 90% of all sites are run by lazy stupid fucks who got on the gravy train when money came easy.

Fabian runs a company that shoots quality content, has good support and works hard. Power to Fabian and the 10% of smart people in this industry who are still producing good products and kicking ass!

Say "hi" to Fabian's anus next time you go in for a suck.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Adam_M

Fabian runs a company that shoots quality content, has good support and works hard. Power to Fabian and the 10% of smart people in this industry who are still producing good products and kicking ass!

Obviously you have nothing worth stealing, are trolling, or are just a complete idiot.

.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I may end up the last man standing but I wont be kissing Fabians ass....

condoms are a minor irritation compared to this cancer....

Only props should go to honest people like mike who hate thieves and are not afraid to speak out

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Adam_M

Fabian's paysites have quality content. However, he also owns largest pirate network in the known universe. I'd honestly suck him off to completion if given the chance, just to see if pirate cum tastes like rum or not.

Fixed that for ya.

[AdultEUhost]

here we go again

[Due]

This people in this industry who a suffering is suffering for the following reasons :
1: they mass produce tours and call them sites ( no real conversion testing, tweaking and tuning )
2: they produce 10k hosted galleries + 1K flv videos and think their promo tools are done
3: they rely on webmasters who can only promote stuff through XML blogposts, hosted galleries, hosted movies etc... Then outsource the writing to some $2 / hour "creative writer"

I think piracy only play a smaller role in the declined sales

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Actually, you don't say or do shit about it. Why would you? -you're just another European sucking off the American market share.

lets stop international trade so that no country is sucking any other country's share
idiot...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Due

This people in this industry who a suffering is suffering for the following reasons :
1: they mass produce tours and call them sites ( no real conversion testing, tweaking and tuning )
2: they produce 10k hosted galleries + 1K flv videos and think their promo tools are done
3: they rely on webmasters who can only promote stuff through XML blogposts, hosted galleries, hosted movies etc... Then outsource the writing to some $2 / hour "creative writer"

I think piracy only play a smaller role in the declined sales

How can it play smaller role if those 3 points you mention were there before tubes/piracy as well...

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

you silly clown. "international trade" means something is being traded back. Nothing is. This guy and other eurotrash won't even give to American charities. Now fuck off you attention whoring little cocksucker.

sounds like you had a bad sales day and are jealous....

i think freeones has pretty much kept alot of American paysites above the waterline from drowning.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I refuse to read all that ...

Too bad. You should.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Seriously? - Do I read like I give a flying fuck what some Brit thinks?

now it sounds like you are on your period.

what happened to you? you used to actually be interesting and post useful stuff.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

..what do you think I am doing now?

attacking roald for being dutch and attacking me for being british.

if you think that is useful, then err... well done sport!

[Colmike9]

All that because someone flipped out about DMCA?

Pirating has been around way before Fabian and Kim Dotcom is a bigger 'enemy' to the industry..

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

you silly clown. "international trade" means something is being traded back. Nothing is. This guy and other eurotrash won't even give to American charities. Now fuck off you attention whoring little cocksucker.

I have no problem with people not in the USA, but one thing that bothers me is how delusional they are about the importance of USA in their country and the lack of importance of their country in the USA.

Sadly, if England just disappears, 90% of American's will be unaffected. But if USA disappears, every European country will be shitting bricks because we're so important to THEIR economy.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

I have no problem with people not in the USA, but one thing that bothers me is how delusional they are about the importance of USA in their country and the lack of importance of their country in the USA.

Sadly, if England just disappears, 90% of American's will be unaffected. But if USA disappears, every European country will be shitting bricks because we're so important to THEIR economy.

I look forward to your views in 20... no 10 years when you are sucking up to the Chinese then you know what johnyclips is talking about when he says slaves.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by Colmike7

All that because someone flipped out about DMCA?

Pirating has been around way before Fabian and Kim Dotcom is a bigger 'enemy' to the industry..

Fabian turned it into a fine art.

[The Dawg]

I chuckled from a few comments here.

[Adam_M]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Obviously you have nothing worth stealing, are trolling, or are just a complete idiot.

.

Wrong on all three counts!

What I am is sick of hearing about how other people are killing everyone's business but then finding it impossible to get business done because no one replies to Emails or IM's..

Content theft is hurting everyone but if you have a case sue the shit out of them, if not lets just shut the fuck up and work on making money!

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Obviously you have nothing worth stealing, are trolling, or are just a complete idiot.

Most likely, all of the above.

.

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by Adam_M

Fabian runs a company that shoots quality content, has good support and works hard. Power to Fabian and the 10% of smart people in this industry who are still producing good products and kicking ass!

It's not the shit his company shoots that anybody has a problem with dumb ass.

But then again, even you couldn't be so stupid as to think otherwise.

Or could you?
.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

you silly clown. "international trade" means something is being traded back. Nothing is. This guy and other eurotrash won't even give to American charities. Now fuck off you attention whoring little cocksucker.

Then you should be bashing your american companies (sponsors) who accept foreign affiliates...
Also every company who hires people from outside US (affiliate payout can be considered salary in terms of leeching US wealth).
As for trade and "getting something back" they are getting back non american customers. Numbers may be lower but not every international trade is fair as well. For example you can buy something from X country for 100, then sell it to someone else in that country for 150. Here you "sucked off the wealth" lol.

ps: charities is for morons like you (you donate money and maybe 1% goes to the cause).

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

I look forward to your views in 20... no 10 years when you are sucking up to the Chinese then you know what johnyclips is talking about when he says slaves.

I don't care if the Chinese own 99.9999% of this country, the fact that USA is the most highly paid for traffic in the world speaks volumes of our importance to you guys.

[Due]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

How can it play smaller role if those 3 points you mention were there before tubes/piracy as well...

There have always been piracy, the first TGPs was linking straight to members areas or full sized pictures

Then there was password trading sites etc

Mainstream was copying adult, now mainstream is years ahead of adult..