To Those In The EU: Big Brother (The USA) Is Coming After You! - GoFuckYourself.com

AdultPornMasta · 12-05-2012, 05:19 AM

This is a lengthy article, very shocking in nature!

You think the privacy laws in your home EU country will protect you?

Think again!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-...searchers-say/

A few excerpts from the article:

"European data stored in the "cloud" could be acquired and inspected by U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies, despite Europe's strong data protection laws, university researchers have suggested.

The research paper, titled "Cloud Computing in Higher Education and Research Institutions and the USA Patriot Act," written by legal experts at the University of Amsterdam's Institute for Information Law, support previous reports that the anti-terror Patriot Act could be theoretically used by U.S. law enforcement to bypass strict European privacy laws to acquire citizen data within the European Union."

""In particular, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments (FISA) Act makes it easy for U.S. authorities to circumvent local government institutions and mandate direct and easy access to cloud data belonging to non-Americans living outside the U.S., with little or no transparency obligations for such practices -- not even the number of actual requests."

This holds true for requests targeted at non-U.S. individuals and for entire business."

""In the U.S. legal framework, there is a legal doctrine called 'extra-territorial jurisdiction'. This implies that cloud providers operating anywhere in the EU, or anywhere in the world for that matter, have to comply with data requests from U.S. authorities as soon as they fall under U.S. laws," said Arnbak.

"These laws, including the Patriot Act, apply as soon as a cloud service conducts systematic business in the United States. It's a widely held misconception that data actually has to be stored on servers physically located in the U.S."

seeandsee · 12-05-2012, 05:59 AM

they will control all at the end

sperbonzo · 12-05-2012, 09:36 AM

http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-...-citizens-178/

The FBI records the emails of nearly all US citizens, including members of congress, according to NSA whistleblower William Binney. In an interview with RT, he warned that the government can use this information against anyone.

Binney, one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the history of the National Security Agency, resigned in 2001. He claimed he no longer wanted to be associated with alleged violations of the Constitution, such as how the FBI engages in widespread and pervasive surveillance through powerful devices called 'Naris.'

This year, Binney received the Callaway award, an annual prize that recognizes those who champion constitutional rights and American values at great risk to their personal or professional lives.

RT: In light of the Petraeus/Allen scandal while the public is so focused on the details of their family drama, one may argue that the real scandal in this whole story is the power, the reach of the surveillance state. I mean if we take General Allen ? thousands of his personal e-mails have been sifted through private correspondence. It?s not like any of those men was planning an attack on America. Does the scandal prove the notion that there is no such thing as privacy in a surveillance state?

William Binney: Yes, that?s what I?ve been basically saying for quite some time, is that the FBI has access to the data collected, which is basically the emails of virtually everybody in the country. And the FBI has access to it. All the congressional members are on the surveillance too, no one is excluded. They are all included. So, yes, this can happen to anyone. If they become a target for whatever reason ? they are targeted by the government, the government can go in, or the FBI, or other agencies of the government, they can go into their database, pull all that data collected on them over the years, and we analyze it all. So, we have to actively analyze everything they?ve done for the last 10 years at least.

RT: And it?s not just about those, who could be planning, who could be a threat to national security, but also those, who could be just?

WB: It?s everybody. The Naris device, if it takes in the entire line, so it takes in all the data. In fact they advertised they can process the lines at session rates, which means 10-gigabit lines. I forgot the name of the device (it?s not the Naris) ? the other one does it at 10 gigabits. That?s why they're building Bluffdale [database facility], because they have to have more storage, because they can?t figure out what?s important, so they are just storing everything there. So, emails are going to be stored there in the future, but right now stored in different places around the country. But it is being collected ? and the FBI has access to it.

RT: You mean it?s being collected in bulk without even requesting providers?

WB: Yes.

RT: Then what about Google, you know, releasing this biannual transparency report and saying that the government?s demands for personal data is at an all-time high and for all of those requesting the US, Google says they complied with the government?s demands 90 percent of the time. But they are still saying that they are making the request, it?s not like it?s all being funneled into that storage. What do you say to that?

WB: I would assume that it?s just simply another source for the same data they are already collecting. My line is in declarations in a court about the 18-T facility in San Francisco, that documented the NSA room inside that AST&T facility, where they had Naris devices to collect data off the fiber optic lines inside the United States. So, that?s kind of a powerful device, that would collect everything it was being sent. It could collect on the order over of 100 billion 1,000-character emails a day. One device.

RT: You say they sift through billions of e-mails. I wonder how do they prioritize? How do they filter it?

WB: I don?t think they are filtering it. They are just storing it. I think it?s just a matter of selecting when they want it. So, if they want to target you, they would take your attributes, go into that database and pull out all your data.

RT: Were you on the target list?

WB: Oh, sure! I believe I?ve been on it for quite a few years. So I keep telling them everything I think of them in my email. So that when they want to read it they?ll understand what I think of them.

RT: Do you think we all should leave messages for the NSA mail box?

WB: Sure!

RT: You blew the whistle on the agency when George W. Bush was the president. With President Obama in office, in your opinion, has anything changed at the agency, in the surveillance program? In what direction is this administration moving?

WB: The change is it?s getting worse. They are doing more. He is supporting the building of the Bluffdale facility, which is over two billion dollars they are spending on storage room for data. That means that they are collecting a lot more now and need more storage for it. That facility by my calculations that I submitted to the court for the Electronic Frontiers Foundation against NSA would hold on the order of 5 zettabytes of data. Just that current storage capacity is being advertised on the web that you can buy. And that?s not talking about what they have in the near future.

RT: What are they going to do with all of that? Ok, they are storing something. Why should anybody be concerned?

WB: If you ever get on the enemies list, like Petraeus did or? for whatever reason, than you can be drained into that surveillance.

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NALEM · 12-05-2012, 01:35 PM

Here is the article from Wired.com that shows off the NSA Spy Center being build in Utah. Good luck to us all.

12-05-2012, 05:19 AM	#1
AdultPornMasta Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,506	To Those In The EU: Big Brother (The USA) Is Coming After You! This is a lengthy article, very shocking in nature! You think the privacy laws in your home EU country will protect you? Think again! http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-...searchers-say/ A few excerpts from the article: "European data stored in the "cloud" could be acquired and inspected by U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies, despite Europe's strong data protection laws, university researchers have suggested. The research paper, titled "Cloud Computing in Higher Education and Research Institutions and the USA Patriot Act," written by legal experts at the University of Amsterdam's Institute for Information Law, support previous reports that the anti-terror Patriot Act could be theoretically used by U.S. law enforcement to bypass strict European privacy laws to acquire citizen data within the European Union." ""In particular, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments (FISA) Act makes it easy for U.S. authorities to circumvent local government institutions and mandate direct and easy access to cloud data belonging to non-Americans living outside the U.S., with little or no transparency obligations for such practices -- not even the number of actual requests." This holds true for requests targeted at non-U.S. individuals and for entire business." ""In the U.S. legal framework, there is a legal doctrine called 'extra-territorial jurisdiction'. This implies that cloud providers operating anywhere in the EU, or anywhere in the world for that matter, have to comply with data requests from U.S. authorities as soon as they fall under U.S. laws," said Arnbak. "These laws, including the Patriot Act, apply as soon as a cloud service conducts systematic business in the United States. It's a widely held misconception that data actually has to be stored on servers physically located in the U.S."

12-05-2012, 05:59 AM	#2
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12-05-2012, 09:36 AM	#3
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-...-citizens-178/ The FBI records the emails of nearly all US citizens, including members of congress, according to NSA whistleblower William Binney. In an interview with RT, he warned that the government can use this information against anyone. Binney, one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the history of the National Security Agency, resigned in 2001. He claimed he no longer wanted to be associated with alleged violations of the Constitution, such as how the FBI engages in widespread and pervasive surveillance through powerful devices called 'Naris.' This year, Binney received the Callaway award, an annual prize that recognizes those who champion constitutional rights and American values at great risk to their personal or professional lives. RT: In light of the Petraeus/Allen scandal while the public is so focused on the details of their family drama, one may argue that the real scandal in this whole story is the power, the reach of the surveillance state. I mean if we take General Allen ? thousands of his personal e-mails have been sifted through private correspondence. It?s not like any of those men was planning an attack on America. Does the scandal prove the notion that there is no such thing as privacy in a surveillance state? William Binney: Yes, that?s what I?ve been basically saying for quite some time, is that the FBI has access to the data collected, which is basically the emails of virtually everybody in the country. And the FBI has access to it. All the congressional members are on the surveillance too, no one is excluded. They are all included. So, yes, this can happen to anyone. If they become a target for whatever reason ? they are targeted by the government, the government can go in, or the FBI, or other agencies of the government, they can go into their database, pull all that data collected on them over the years, and we analyze it all. So, we have to actively analyze everything they?ve done for the last 10 years at least. RT: And it?s not just about those, who could be planning, who could be a threat to national security, but also those, who could be just? WB: It?s everybody. The Naris device, if it takes in the entire line, so it takes in all the data. In fact they advertised they can process the lines at session rates, which means 10-gigabit lines. I forgot the name of the device (it?s not the Naris) ? the other one does it at 10 gigabits. That?s why they're building Bluffdale [database facility], because they have to have more storage, because they can?t figure out what?s important, so they are just storing everything there. So, emails are going to be stored there in the future, but right now stored in different places around the country. But it is being collected ? and the FBI has access to it. RT: You mean it?s being collected in bulk without even requesting providers? WB: Yes. RT: Then what about Google, you know, releasing this biannual transparency report and saying that the government?s demands for personal data is at an all-time high and for all of those requesting the US, Google says they complied with the government?s demands 90 percent of the time. But they are still saying that they are making the request, it?s not like it?s all being funneled into that storage. What do you say to that? WB: I would assume that it?s just simply another source for the same data they are already collecting. My line is in declarations in a court about the 18-T facility in San Francisco, that documented the NSA room inside that AST&T facility, where they had Naris devices to collect data off the fiber optic lines inside the United States. So, that?s kind of a powerful device, that would collect everything it was being sent. It could collect on the order over of 100 billion 1,000-character emails a day. One device. RT: You say they sift through billions of e-mails. I wonder how do they prioritize? How do they filter it? WB: I don?t think they are filtering it. They are just storing it. I think it?s just a matter of selecting when they want it. So, if they want to target you, they would take your attributes, go into that database and pull out all your data. RT: Were you on the target list? WB: Oh, sure! I believe I?ve been on it for quite a few years. So I keep telling them everything I think of them in my email. So that when they want to read it they?ll understand what I think of them. RT: Do you think we all should leave messages for the NSA mail box? WB: Sure! RT: You blew the whistle on the agency when George W. Bush was the president. With President Obama in office, in your opinion, has anything changed at the agency, in the surveillance program? In what direction is this administration moving? WB: The change is it?s getting worse. They are doing more. He is supporting the building of the Bluffdale facility, which is over two billion dollars they are spending on storage room for data. That means that they are collecting a lot more now and need more storage for it. That facility by my calculations that I submitted to the court for the Electronic Frontiers Foundation against NSA would hold on the order of 5 zettabytes of data. Just that current storage capacity is being advertised on the web that you can buy. And that?s not talking about what they have in the near future. RT: What are they going to do with all of that? Ok, they are storing something. Why should anybody be concerned? WB: If you ever get on the enemies list, like Petraeus did or? for whatever reason, than you can be drained into that surveillance. . __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

12-05-2012, 01:35 PM	#4
NALEM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Where ever Delta flies Posts: 3,143	Here is the article from Wired.com that shows off the NSA Spy Center being build in Utah. Good luck to us all. __________________ "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."