frustrations of a hand submitter - GoFuckYourself.com

shipwreck · 02-17-2003, 07:36 PM

I've just started submitting in the last month or so...
I use G.A.S.S. and am very happy with it, but there are a few things tgp's do that seem to discriminate against hand submitters.

Here is a fairly short list of the things I'm talking about

1 forcing submitters to use cryptic randomly generated passwords.

If you use an auto-submitter than you simply type the password into the program once and only once and never worry about it again.

If you are a hand submitter you wind up with a giant flat file that you have to scroll through for every single tgp you submitt to every single time you submitt to it. I don't understand the need for a password anyway...why not just track by email address since they have to confirm by email anyway. It's not anymore secure since the passwords are passed across the web in plain test any damn way

2 enforcing the one submitt a day rule by allowing only one submitt every 24 hours.

The auto-submitter is programable so that it can make it submitt at any given time 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

The hand submitter (being a mere mortal) might not have the luxury of planning his (or her) life around when the submitt goes out. For instance today I had to go shopping with my wife(also known as she who must be obeyed ;-}), so now it's about 6pm and if I do a submitt now, I can't do one in the morning like I ussually do. Why not set it by calendar date... It doesn't really matter when the cut off is just so long as the submitter knows when it is and can plan their day accordingly

3 (and this is the one that really chaps my ass) Blacklisting for stupid shit... I have been blacklisted for honest mistakes(i.e. submitting the wrong URL)

The auto-submitter once you've set it up will never submitt the wrong URL, or have a typo, or accidentally select the wrong category.

The hand submitter given enough time will fuck every one of those things up at least once... I promise.
I understand blacklisting someone for trying to screw you... for instance I have never accidentally redirected traffic or added pop ups, or any of that mad crap.

4 no (or inacurate) description lengths
With an auto submitter you only go through this agony once... not every damn time.

Why oh God why can't people simply say how long the description can be. Some do, but many don't. There's nothing quite as agravating as submitting the same page 3 or 4 thousand times because the TGP owner has decided that the allowable description length is top secret information.
It seems odd to me that I keep hearing tgp owners piss and moan about autosubmissioners (such as Russian submitter) and then proceed to use scripts that seem to make life harder for hand submitters.
It makes me think that I'm fucking up and I oughta just pay for an auto submitter, it would save me about an hour daily and more importandly it'd be less of a damn headache.

Anyway, sorry to rant I'm just a little bitter that I have to decide whether to submitt tonight... or tomorrow.

Shipwreck

lazycash · 02-17-2003, 09:17 PM

Sounds like you are making a great case for using an autosubmitter. I've used GAAS, but advanced submitter is a much nicer tool for hand submits. I use it to hand submit to the top 30 and auto submit to another 1200 using autogallerysubmitter (see sig) and can do all that in about 15 min.

Snake Doctor · 02-17-2003, 10:11 PM

Just hand submit with GASS or whatever you like to the top 20-50 TGP's....for the rest use an autosubmitter.
If the #1092 TGP won't take your gallery because its autosubmitted you lost all of 3 hits or something.

With all the time you're wasting you could be making more galleries, making AVS sites, submitting to SE's, shit that'll make you more money.

unclebubba · 02-17-2003, 11:10 PM

yeah... I think you both definitely are correct, it just annoy's me hearing people whine about autosubs, then making it damn near impossible to hand submitt

jim manly · 02-17-2003, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shipwreck
Why oh God why can't people simply say how long the description can be. Some do, but many don't. There's nothing quite as agravating as submitting the same page 3 or 4 thousand times because the TGP owner has decided that the allowable description length is top secret information.

Yes that pisses me off to, if I make the description too long. It will tell me to go back and fix it and I have to re-do the form.

Also tgps that aren't taking submission's anymore or stop updating but leave the submit form intact, without the submitters knowing it wasting our time.

SleazyDream · 02-17-2003, 11:26 PM

baaa, listen to slaw. It's much better to THREATEN people than be nice to them.

thatdykeliz · 02-18-2003, 12:33 AM

shipwreck, I feel your pain. I started doing galleries just a little while ago, and I'm sick of this shit already. I just downloaded Russian Submitter, the plan of hand-subbing to the bigger places and then sending out a barrage of autosubmits everywhere else sounds good to me.

The thing with the mysterious description length pisses me off, too. I start out with a really good descrip that will catch the surfer's attention, and by the time I've pared it down to the character length that Joe-whoever's submission form will accept, I'm left with "big tits" or "hot babe." FUCK!

That's it, I'm gonna go blow some shit up in Half-Life and then go to bed and start messing with RS tomorrow morning.

Ron2k1 · 02-18-2003, 02:39 AM

What's so difficult on submitting a gallery to 20 tgps manually every day? The only thing I did to safe some time is bookmarking the submit URL's.

I get over 200k at my galleries without any freaking tool except internet explorer

Luciferr · 02-18-2003, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Just hand submit with GASS or whatever you like to the top 20-50 TGP's....for the rest use an autosubmitter.
If the #1092 TGP won't take your gallery because its autosubmitted you lost all of 3 hits or something.

With all the time you're wasting you could be making more galleries, making AVS sites, submitting to SE's, shit that'll make you more money.

I´ve just been checking out http://www.gallerysubmitter.com (I belive it´s also known as GAAS) but I have some problems with GAAS / ISP ...

Could someone ICQ me on 24094080 for a little help, hints and advices please ?

Luciferr

Broda · 02-18-2003, 05:50 AM

Hi Luciferr,

Gallerysubmitter.com doesn't have anything to do with GASS

GASS is a manual tool, where AutoGallerySubmitter does the exact same thing, only automatically. GASS is perfect for assisted hand submissions - but we prefer to do it automatically without having to fill in anything apart from a few details.

You don't have to worry about how to fill in forms or worry about rules or form changes. All that's taken care of automatically

You should try it!

Deb · 02-18-2003, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Broda
Hi Luciferr,

Gallerysubmitter.com doesn't have anything to do with GASS GASS is a manual tool, where AutoGallerySubmitter does the exact same thing, only automatically. GASS is perfect for assisted hand submissions - but we prefer to do it automatically without having to fill in anything apart from a few details.

You don't have to worry about how to fill in forms or worry about rules or form changes. All that's taken care of automatically

You should try it!

Broda - Gallery Submitter is a good tool, but you fail to mention that anyone that uses it, is limited to only using sponsors that are in the GS 'approved' list, and that they have to sign up to these sponsors using the GS Ref code, before being able to use GS. Just something that you might want to explain to folks.

Ray@TastyDollars · 02-18-2003, 08:02 AM

Since we are ranting

My number 1 frustation with tgps is that some scripts dont see .wmv movies, wtf is with that? Especially most Mad scripts(excetp Madthumbs ironically).

Fix those scripts, Im sure some tgp's are missing out on some great movie galleries. Like mine

Ray

Kick Ass Chat · 02-18-2003, 09:00 AM

Go back to the old school, and Hand submit, period.

Luciferr · 02-18-2003, 09:09 AM

I´ve been checking out http://www.gallerysubmitter.com/ and it has been disqualified .. My website doesn´t support CGI-scripting ...

I do btw. have W2K Server with all sorts of Frontpage Extension but it will NOT .. Repeat .. WILL NOT support CGI-scripts ..

I just hate computers soooooo much sometimes ..

Well .. Anyhow .. Does anyone inhere know some OTHER great autosubmitting progams alá http://www.gallerysubmitter.com/ ? I liked the quality and I liked the many options .....

Zzzzooooooo .. Hit me my dear fellows .. Give me your best suggestions and you will be a part of my gotosleepprayer tonite !

Yours
Luciferrrrrr

02-17-2003, 09:17 PM	#2
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Sounds like you are making a great case for using an autosubmitter. I've used GAAS, but advanced submitter is a much nicer tool for hand submits. I use it to hand submit to the top 30 and auto submit to another 1200 using autogallerysubmitter (see sig) and can do all that in about 15 min. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

02-17-2003, 10:11 PM	#3
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02-17-2003, 11:26 PM	#6
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02-18-2003, 12:33 AM	#7
thatdykeliz Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: talkin dirty on the phone Posts: 1,026	shipwreck, I feel your pain. I started doing galleries just a little while ago, and I'm sick of this shit already. I just downloaded Russian Submitter, the plan of hand-subbing to the bigger places and then sending out a barrage of autosubmits everywhere else sounds good to me. The thing with the mysterious description length pisses me off, too. I start out with a really good descrip that will catch the surfer's attention, and by the time I've pared it down to the character length that Joe-whoever's submission form will accept, I'm left with "big tits" or "hot babe." FUCK! That's it, I'm gonna go blow some shit up in Half-Life and then go to bed and start messing with RS tomorrow morning. __________________ <font size="1" font color="black"><i><b>"No pleasure, no rapture, no exquisite sin greater...than central air."</i> -- Dogma</b> ICQ#169.839.131</font>

02-18-2003, 08:02 AM	#12
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Since we are ranting My number 1 frustation with tgps is that some scripts dont see .wmv movies, wtf is with that? Especially most Mad scripts(excetp Madthumbs ironically). Fix those scripts, Im sure some tgp's are missing out on some great movie galleries. Like mine Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

02-17-2003, 07:36 PM	#1
shipwreck Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Portland, OR, 97225 Posts: 1	frustrations of a hand submitter I've just started submitting in the last month or so... I use G.A.S.S. and am very happy with it, but there are a few things tgp's do that seem to discriminate against hand submitters. Here is a fairly short list of the things I'm talking about 1 forcing submitters to use cryptic randomly generated passwords. If you use an auto-submitter than you simply type the password into the program once and only once and never worry about it again. If you are a hand submitter you wind up with a giant flat file that you have to scroll through for every single tgp you submitt to every single time you submitt to it. I don't understand the need for a password anyway...why not just track by email address since they have to confirm by email anyway. It's not anymore secure since the passwords are passed across the web in plain test any damn way 2 enforcing the one submitt a day rule by allowing only one submitt every 24 hours. The auto-submitter is programable so that it can make it submitt at any given time 24 hours a day 7 days a week. The hand submitter (being a mere mortal) might not have the luxury of planning his (or her) life around when the submitt goes out. For instance today I had to go shopping with my wife(also known as she who must be obeyed ;-}), so now it's about 6pm and if I do a submitt now, I can't do one in the morning like I ussually do. Why not set it by calendar date... It doesn't really matter when the cut off is just so long as the submitter knows when it is and can plan their day accordingly 3 (and this is the one that really chaps my ass) Blacklisting for stupid shit... I have been blacklisted for honest mistakes(i.e. submitting the wrong URL) The auto-submitter once you've set it up will never submitt the wrong URL, or have a typo, or accidentally select the wrong category. The hand submitter given enough time will fuck every one of those things up at least once... I promise. I understand blacklisting someone for trying to screw you... for instance I have never accidentally redirected traffic or added pop ups, or any of that mad crap. 4 no (or inacurate) description lengths With an auto submitter you only go through this agony once... not every damn time. Why oh God why can't people simply say how long the description can be. Some do, but many don't. There's nothing quite as agravating as submitting the same page 3 or 4 thousand times because the TGP owner has decided that the allowable description length is top secret information. It seems odd to me that I keep hearing tgp owners piss and moan about autosubmissioners (such as Russian submitter) and then proceed to use scripts that seem to make life harder for hand submitters. It makes me think that I'm fucking up and I oughta just pay for an auto submitter, it would save me about an hour daily and more importandly it'd be less of a damn headache. Anyway, sorry to rant I'm just a little bitter that I have to decide whether to submitt tonight... or tomorrow. Shipwreck

02-17-2003, 11:10 PM	#4
unclebubba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6	yeah... I think you both definitely are correct, it just annoy's me hearing people whine about autosubs, then making it damn near impossible to hand submitt

02-18-2003, 02:39 AM	#8
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	What's so difficult on submitting a gallery to 20 tgps manually every day? The only thing I did to safe some time is bookmarking the submit URL's. I get over 200k at my galleries without any freaking tool except internet explorer

02-18-2003, 05:50 AM	#10
Broda Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CheapAssDesigns.com Posts: 1,874	Hi Luciferr, Gallerysubmitter.com doesn't have anything to do with GASS GASS is a manual tool, where AutoGallerySubmitter does the exact same thing, only automatically. GASS is perfect for assisted hand submissions - but we prefer to do it automatically without having to fill in anything apart from a few details. You don't have to worry about how to fill in forms or worry about rules or form changes. All that's taken care of automatically You should try it! __________________ CheapAssDesigns.com - when you need quality designs at affordable prices. icq: 230-729-205 info \|at\| cheap ass designs dot com

02-18-2003, 09:00 AM	#13
Kick Ass Chat Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,057	Go back to the old school, and Hand submit, period.

02-18-2003, 09:09 AM	#14
Luciferr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 50	I´ve been checking out http://www.gallerysubmitter.com/ and it has been disqualified .. My website doesn´t support CGI-scripting ... I do btw. have W2K Server with all sorts of Frontpage Extension but it will NOT .. Repeat .. WILL NOT support CGI-scripts .. I just hate computers soooooo much sometimes .. Well .. Anyhow .. Does anyone inhere know some OTHER great autosubmitting progams alá http://www.gallerysubmitter.com/ ? I liked the quality and I liked the many options ..... Zzzzooooooo .. Hit me my dear fellows .. Give me your best suggestions and you will be a part of my gotosleepprayer tonite ! Yours Luciferrrrrr __________________ This is one damn tough business ! - http://www.sensuel.dk - Just another business