I said some things that he found a little bitter to swallow and is personally butthurt over. Good thing I didn't ask him how he could possibly be so fucking incompetent that he couldn't make enough money before 2005 to keep his own sites alive. He blames 'pirates' for the fact that he had to close down his sites, which is a lot like the music companies that blame kids downloading songs for their decline in revenue and imho he's about as charming, innocent and self-righteous as the RIAA.

Apparently we're both huge pirates. Wasn't my intention to drag you in, just trying to point out the difference between someone who owns a forum and someone who posts links on a forum. Freeones jumped to mind as it's the biggest one I know, I could have used any of dozens of other examples.

You should probably stop talking out of your ass, because you're embarrassing yourself. Learn the difference between free porn and piracy. Then check Google's transparency reports for DMCAs. This isn't about traffic or the amount of porn someone is giving away, it's about piracy.


As generous as that is, not a single person here complaining will take you up on that offer. And like I said before, I'd rather deal with one Manwin than 1000 pirate piss ants, so please keep donating to every anti-piracy group you can.

Funny, just read a thread where you posted all about how you tried to steal a ton of Manwin content, got caught three times and shut down and got some Chinese dudes thrown in jail. I don't think you're angry about pirates, you're angry about being an unsuccessful pirate.

http://m2.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1024634&page=1

Ahhhhh, OK. Now I know who that shit stain is.

Almost everyone attacking you so far has checked out to be involved in piracy. Surprise.

You actually think some dude named Chow is sitting in a Chinese prison over my failed attempt at pirating Manwin's content?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Priceless.

Just another broke ass failed market samurai affiliate pretending to play with the big fish!

I have no clue and give zero fucks, but didn't sound like you were joking to me. Basically when I think of you, I picture some little loud guy standing behind a couple bigger dudes saying 'yeah, take that!' whenever they do anything, because you think it makes you one of them. And that's about as far as any thought process about you has ever went or ever will go. I just think of you as impotent.

Now I'm gonna jack off to some pirated content and go to sleep, big day buying presents tomorrow!

If he really had a check from Fabian he would be kicking 100x more ass and everybody with a brain knows it...

just relax your asshole pirate boy...the fight goes on whether you like it or not...

You gave enough fucks to search me and hunt down old posts. Thanks for caring.

At least you're thinking of me. That's sweet.

Yea, that's why you're digging up old posts I made. :thumbsup

You need to run along to your pirate board now. They are all missing you over there.

FREE CHOW! :1orglaugh

That was actually a very good thread, spent half an hour reading some of the better posts.

Poor bugger is still locked up. No telling what sort of torture he's had to endure.

Get real, I wasn't looking for YOU. Why the fuck would I do that? I was trying to find out why AK's panties are in a bunch and of course any thread he participates in has you me too'ing in the background. I have thought about you before tho, I admit. I've wondered how old that girl is in your avatar and why you live in Thailand.

Thread save

http://harry.enzoverder.be/cats/funn...pirate-cat.jpg

still waiting and thinking there is definitely nothing to see here

Whatever Bernard. :1orglaugh

For your information, that girl is a boy. You can stop beating off looking at her now.

I guess we'll see dozens of new anti piracy sites and organisations opened in next few days, all asking for cash :)

Well that's brilliant then because Fabian's now offered him money, so I look forward to seeing the programme expand aggressively.

It's been on the public record since July that Manwin have contributed to what we are doing.

Despite that contribution we are still struggling to break even on this effort, however our strategy is firm and there is a deliberate order that is being followed and nothing will change that.

We see people like dig420 trying to divert attention away from their intimate involvement with the file locker eco-system. They will do and say anything to prevent us from completing what we started with file lockers as it will hurt their illegitimate and illegal businesses should we continue.

These thieves post in these threads for one reason, to discredit this anti piracy effort in order to maintain their piracy empires and the money they derive from them.

150 hypocrites..

hack da planet!

That travs character and his cookie stuffing post bot is very annoying, check out his sig.

Dear rights holders,

To quickly finish the currently ongoing Stopfilelockers campaign and to move on to mitigating other forms of the commercial piracy AK (Copycontrol) needs to be representative - please contribute to the war on piracy by applying as soon as possible. It will not take much of your time to sign the representation agreement and to send it back, but it will provide a valuable contribution towards our industry's only real chance to fight back. Much more valuable than arguing with pirates at GFY.

It doesn't matter if you're big or small, each representation agreement is counted as AK needs a substantial amount of them to impress various third parties that Copycontrol is dealing with. If you cannot afford standard representation fees AK is more than willing to negotiate them to the whatever amount is affordable to you. Please do not sit on the sidelines waiting for others to solve the piracy problem for you - stand up and help the fight.

Get represented!
http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

Laughing My Fucking Ass Off > gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1024634

just because you dont make money from people posting the file locker links, doesnt mean you should allow it, think of it from a standpoint from content procuders, they spent hundreds of thousands if not more creating the content, and you are giving it away for free.

thats an issue as well

Rock on
 

Uhm yeah . . . . You know what, take Manwin's money AK. As long as it shuts down the file lockers and other content thieves, it's cool by me. Politics makes for strange bedfellows, and as long as the mission stays true, and they get that, even if it's against their own best interests, why not? (Obviously not what the Manwin Speech Coalition did, as they simply caved to the money givers. LOL)

Hell, enough content owners are lining up to give Manwin their content for free, they barely need to pirate it themselves anymore. You can't save people from tanking their own businesses. But you can help those that are fighting for change.

Hysterical - At least Al Capone didn't conduct business hiding behind numerous foreign jurisdictions -- You sir stare at a snakes ass every business opportunity you get!


Very classy as you self-admit you're knowledgeable of illegal copyrighted content on your sites.
Next time we talk, eat a mint since your breath smells like shit!

About you?? LOL... you are likely one of the dumbest people I have ever read on a forum.

Roald, Dig420 ended you up in this discussion because he brought you into it. His forums.cuckolds.com/forums is just riddled with piracy links. Atop that, his cuckolds.com members area has 42 videos to offer members, same with interracialsex.com. It's obvious that the members areas to the sites he owns in the interracial and cuckold niche are just fronts. He makes all his money on filelocker piracy. How do I know this? Just read this statement by dig420 himself...

"You're never going to see that. I've been in this biz since 1996. I'm adapting instead of dying. AK is an attention whore looking to stay on the front page as long as possible and doing a great job of it. Vthays fine, but guess what? Tubes aren't going away. File sharing isn't going away. Ever. Not to mention, one big tube takes more views than every file share in the world put together. You guys sit here yanking each others cixks, you have no fuxking idea what's up in this industry anymore. What the fuxk ever. Im sitting in Mandalay bay on my cell with a hot asian vitch passed out next to me, when I wake up I'll keep doing what has to be done. Wake the fuck up. If you're not rich already, bitching like some nickel n dime tool over small potatoes like file shares isn't ginna help you."

Dig420 forums are simply a landing page for stolen content access in which his sites get credit on any filelocker signups. That's how it works. He is an affiliate of filelockers piriod.

I've visited freeones forums many times. Never seen 1,000's of pirated content links on a single page like dig420's forums. If I owned freeones I'd be really pissed that this ass clown brought your name into this bullshit and compared you both as equals.

so the douchebag fake nick troll made 2 posts early on and hasn't returned, and here we are on page 4.

come on guys.....

^^^^ this

http://i.imgur.com/Cdv0t.jpg

Re: Megaupload closure

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=2176246

You can quote from abstracts lifted from papers written by people with well established views on file sharing all you like, that doesn't change the fact that the owner of a copyright work has the sole right to determine the terms upon which their work is distributed.

You pro-piracy proponents keep trotting out the same poorly thought out arguments to justify the theft of property.

It's disingenuous to write off an academic paper that makes perfectly valid assertions with evidence. The authors' argument is perfectly well thought out and there's nothing to indicate they have a vested interest one way or another.

Yes from a purely moral perspective, piracy is wrong - I won't disagree. But:

* whether it's right or wrong, you can do it, because technically there is nothing stopping you, legally you can frequently hide behind the DMCA, and generally copyright holders are powerless to stop you because frequently (e.g. in porn) the big pirates have more money than the copyright holders.

* I really doubt that most people (who aren't adult webmasters) really care about the moral issues around theft of pornographic content. We're not talking about the next great American novel here - we're talking about smutty videos with little or no creative or artistic merit. It's just filth that smut peddlers crank out to try to make a buck. Society is not enriched by any of that content and you could make a strong argument that it is in fact deleterious to society.

Take those two things together, and I say who gives a fuck. I've never made a dime from pirated porn but if other people want to make a quick million from it then I say more power to them. It's a clever blackhat strategy.

I'd also point out that the early adult web (and there are a lot of us, including you, who happily made good money in that early period) was built on rampant content theft and every member's area was full of stolen content. Even today affiliates are making bank with stolen content all over the place, e.g. ex girlfriend sites. Just another of those curious double standards in the flexible morality of internet porn.

Uhm, what? They base lowering sales after MU shutdown on MU although sales have been lower and lower every day since 2007 anyway. There is no worse trend they show in their report, it only shows there is a downward trend, as there was prior to the shutdown.

How is that proof?! The paper is completely ridiculous.

That's the point... They're showing that the closure of a site that used 4% of internet bandwidth at its peak had a statistically insignificant effect on sales.

My main criticism would be that it would be more useful if they had used movie tickets sold rather than revenue, because of the differences in movie ticket pricing that exist.

Shutting down MU simply shifted that 4% somewhere else. That's like saying we should not fight drug lords since it does not change the consumption of drugs much.

Wait and see what happens if 90% of all file lockers die. I can guarantee there will be an increase in sales.

That's not really a good example... No you shouldn't really even bother to fight drug lords, because there's always going to be one to pop up and take his place, hence the useless and counterproductive war on drugs (much like piracy). The way to end the negative effects of the drug trade is to legalize and regulate drugs so that criminal gangs no longer have a stake in a lucrative and violent multibillion dollar trade - you win the drug trade through the judiciary, not policing (much like piracy!).

And there may or may not be an increase in sales - there's no way to know that the people who use and possibly pay for file lockers are really the same market who pays for porn.

However, I'm sure you have read the MU docs and seen that most of their revenue came from premium memberships - so I would have thought that it was more the Manwin way to adapt to a membership and content delivery model that a lot of people obviously like, and offer a product in that arena with (mostly) legal content.

Filelockers sell memberships to download unlicensed user uploaded content, which breaks DMCA rules. They are trying to hide behind selling a service, but in the end they sell the content.

And actually, I know for a fact that there is an increase in sales, I've seen it first hand.

I just hate it when I have to agree with you. :upsidedow

As I've posted already, a lot of the niche pirates who have been hitting us for a long time are now out of business, sites closed. Minus the usual odd sales swings, our sales are also increasing.

Everyone who says fighting piracy won't make a difference can kick rocks.