Most of the people here have no concept of strategic planning or any planning at all. It's very easy to spot the people who live by the seat of their pants. It is beyond clear why AK would do exactly what he is doing and how he is doing it. Divide and conquer, hone your skills, build your relationships with processors, and everything else you would need to be ready to deliver a real blow to some of the largest sites. But these clowns just want him to go in like a raging bull with no plan or preparation, like they do in their own lives, which usually results in failure.

It's so much easier for them to complain. That's what bitches and haters do.

Because i don't like him. There's something shady about him. You're too far up his ass to see it though.
As i said before we will find out sooner or later what his hidden agenda is. And you will look like a total idiot and tell me i was right.

:thumbsup....

I know the agenda, talk to him about it, know the plan, and see the results. There is no "up his ass" because 1) it is called support, and 2) I know what is going on and get daily updates about it sent to my email.

What hidden agenda could there possibly be, that he eventually wants to stop paying out of his own pocket and working literally all day on this, so that one day he can, heaven forbid, make a buck so he can hire a few people to help him? The shame.

Look, I don't care if he puts every pirate out of business except Manwin, who in turn rules the piracy world. Better there be one Manwin who plays by the rules than 10,000 pirate piss ants who don't.

But lets say you are right and you find out whatever that "hidden agenda" is, then what? You're gonna make more threads about it and stop your feet real loud?

Lets assume you and Franck are right. What is an absolute worst case scenario?

A) He makes a little money.
B) Manwin rids the internet of all their pirate competition.

Whatever the outcome, what is the problem? Content owners win either way. Manwin isn't going anywhere and neither are their sites, so I don't see a problem even if there is a hidden agenda.

What I do know is, almost every file locker pirate who has been stealing from me is now out of business. So whatever AK has to do and however it has to be funded, even if there is a hidden agenda, it's working for me.

lets make sure to point out that the statement is not mine, merely repeated as sarcasm.
:)

You're a lot smarter than most around here, so you of all people should know that to dish out an extreme example you need the right ammo and plan to do it. Every duck has to be in a row and the proper relationships made at the right processors in order for anyone to give a shit about what you say. That takes time, trust, money, and practice, practice, practice.

He has only been at this for a few months and all of you guys expect him to end piracy overnight. How do you honestly think that is going to happen? Corbin Fisher took Oron down after MONTHS of research and a lot of legal. It didn't happen overnight. And do you know what happened to the piracy world? Nothing. The pirates went elsewhere because Fisher just wanted a payday, and that is what he got. AK has a long term plan where illegal lockers can not get billing, thus will cease to exist. Simply going after the biggest dog does NOTHING other than send that traffic elsewhere. Oron was proof of this and everyone so quickly forgets it. Anyone who thinks otherwise simply needs to go back and look at the Oron case.

But that still wouldn't keep your content off their sites because they don't control everyone on the planet who uploads to their sites.

Again, that still doesn't keep your content off the sites. Showing Fabian or whoever that you know where his kids go to school won't stop some dick in Russia from uploading your videos on every tube or locker online so he can get internet cred or $20 bucks.

No, it doesn't. Not with this.

It would only work if it was only the site owner who is uploading the content, but that is not the case. Unless you run down every pirate on earth, your methods simply do not work.

Plus if you went after Fabian in a personal way like that....he has a fucking room full of highpriced lawyers that you can't compete with.

AND...if that doesn't work, he's got enough money to pay someone to make sure you have an "accident" if he wanted to.

Fabian will get what's coming to him. He's a huge target to authorities. He's the Joe Francis (Girls Gone Wild) of the Porn Industry. And the way he suddenly and magically came up with hundreds of millions of dollars to buy Mansef and change it to Manwin is something that will get him when the time comes.

No need to go after him. He will fall under his own weight

Good lord... Fabian won't have you killed. He used to work for me, he's a nice guy with a nice wife, extremely talented programmer. He got access to venture capital and he's a supremely intelligent guy, the chances of him 'falling under his own weight' are slim to none.

Life is not like a Jason Statham movie.

Didn't say it was like a movie. But if somebody started going after his family and his attorneys couldn't stop it, who knows?

And I believe Fabian is the big fall guy for this whole thing. He's under the microscope of law enforcement everywhere.

I don't know what work Fabian did for you in the past (programming?), but maybe you'll be able to hire him again in a few years? :1orglaugh

You could be right. One thing is for sure, none of it makes any sense to me.

And I'm sure it doesn't make any sense to the authorities either.
Which is why I think he's gonna be another Joe Francis...or OJ type person. Where the authorities take every opportunity to go after him for every little thing.

And when you own and operate huge pirate sites like Pornhub on top of a big time shady deal in acquiring the company to begin with...and then you prance around drawing attention to yourself...well, history shows what happens to people in the adult industry when they start drawing attention to themselves.

Might is right on the internet in 2012 and beyond.

At one point megaupload accounted for ~4% of all internet traffic. The only reason Kim got taken down was because the MAFIAA exerted their lobbying influence. However, no one gives a fuck about a bunch of butthurt pornographers... Hence the fact that companies are lining up cap in hand to buy spots on illegal tubes, file lockers and piracy boards that get their traffic from stolen content.

Like JHC mentioned above, you need leverage to get paid, and the vast majority content providers have zero leverage. Once again, traffic is king!

What do you do for a living? :)

:2 cents::2 cents:

That's how I read the OP. :thumbsup

Spam search engines. I still do cams and dating - content that can't be stolen.

I won't lie, I made my living from selling porn sites for many years (via SEs mostly). But in my experience it is very true that porn and the adult industry in general is shady and immoral as fuck, on both the traffic and content sides.

Yes I know you are going to jump in and provide a litany of the fine, upstanding and well adjusted people you know in the porn industry. But I have spent enough time around the adult industry to know that a majority of people in it (present company excepted) are basically fucked in the head perverts who would whore their own mother for a buck.

Bit of a bummer if someone is heavily invested in producing content and they see their livelihood going down the toilet because technically and legally savvy operators are taking their shit and profiting on it without you seeing a dime. But at the same time said person is building a livelihood around taking smutty pictures and videos... There might be demand for it because of base human nature, but it's not exactly highly creative and world-enriching stuff.

So personally, since I only work on the traffic side of the equation, I find the hand wringing quite amusing. The writing was on the wall for general porn a long time ago. The nature of technology and the particular viewership of porn makes fighting piracy an impossible battle.

My grandfather was in the citrus and cattle industry. The deals he was involved in and the stories he told me could fit that.

One of my brothers is a car salesman. They go far beyond your statement.

My other brother is a fishing captain. The stories he's told me of the dirty tricks his competitors have pulled on him go beyond your statement.

I have a feeling, that ANY occupation you pick is full of "perverts who would whore their own mother for a buck".

Hell, just look at politicians! :1orglaugh They make us look like amateurs at pimpin' and whorin'

I disagree. Mario Salieri and Marc Dorcel 'enrich my world' at least three or four times a week.

I see you are a man of taste! :1orglaugh

Not everyone is a crook or trying to work an angle. That is a concept unusual to porn people I know, but could it be the agenda is to do what he says he is doing? And if he can keep it funded and hire people to help him, what exactly is the problem?

Whatever the "agenda" is, he's doing a great job.

Everyone in life who is successful has a plan. Why wouldn't he? And why would anyone care what that plan is unless he is impacting their business?

But even if his plan turns out to be the most sinister plan in the history of sinister plans, who loses other than pirates? I really don't see what all the fuss is about unless everyone complaining is involved in piracy somehow, like several of the anon posters who have been showing up. Otherwise they simply wouldn't care.

What is funny is, the guy fighting piracy gets more hate and attention than the pirates who are robbing everyone blind. It is probably safe to say that explains everything.

Truer words never spoken

I went after file lockers first. As it turned out it was the right choice as the number of take down notices issued against file lockers for content dwarfs tubes. I have posted verifiable statistics several times demonstrating that tubes attract a very small number of takedown notices compared to file lockers.

Several of the largest file lockers have lost various forms of payment processing. We're continuing to put pressure on them in a number of ways I am not prepared to talk about publicly. Over time we expect to see a number of them fail.

There's no hidden agenda, no other anti-piracy effort has been as transparent as we have been when it comes to explaining what we do and why we do it.

It's a shame that you're so jaded, so cynical that you cannot accept that anything can be undertaken for motivations greater than personal gain.

Recently we began trying to recover costs, this led to accusations we were trying to make a profit. So twisted are the critics that they scoff over us trying to break even.

Of course, it can't be as simple as the fact that I got so sick and tired of watching this industry completely drop the ball over IP theft.

Watching pirates bleed the industry dry while coming back to sell traffic to the people that they were stealing from.

Watching pirates get insanely rich by distributing content they had no right to while the affiliate system crumbles.

Watching once highly profitable niche rights-holders get completely squeezed out of the industry while the most tangible response the industry had was to send off DMCA notices to companies that rarely if ever complied with them.


There is an agenda. I want to create an environment where any person or company that deliberately engages in deriving profit from piracy has the potential to face serious consequences for doing so. That's what motivates me, that's what I am aiming for. I don't even care if it's achievable or not, so long as for the period of time this project operates that as much pain and bewilderment is foisted upon commercial pirates as possible.

Bottom line though is simple, this is probably the last chance this industry has to really make a difference to piracy. If the industry drops the ball this time, as it has in the past, then until laws change it will be doomed to playing the circular and ineffective DMCA game.

You should probably just shut the fuck up with your claims about filelockers v. tubes, anyone with 10% of a brain (meaning everyone except DWB and Paul Markham) knows it's complete and utter bullshit. What 'motivates' you is that big check from Fabian.

Firstly, there's no big cheque from anyone, we're running at a loss.

Secondly, having already declared your self interest in dealing in traffic and wanting

You need the myth to continue over tubes, you need the industry to ignore the elephant in the room and let the kind of piracy that allows hundreds of complete site rips to be made easily available to anyone who wants to pay a file locker $10 a month for access.

The only source of data that we have on infringements comes direct from rights-holders and those representing them. All of that data indicates that (1) file lockers get more takedown notices than tubes and (2) file lockers have a lower DMCA compliance rate than tubes.

Keep up the good work AK, don't waste too much time replying to the trolls.

You are a shit stain... lol.

You have no clout, at all. You own 3 paysites that should be fucking awesome that have 42 videos on them that are mainstream, bullshit, nonsense. You sell these totally worthless members area access for $30/month on cuckolds.com, interracialsex.com, and a couple other sites that should be awesome... yet, since you own them, they are worth nothing.

Your forums are full of links to filelocker sites.

You are simply a leach on an industry that diserves better. You *will* get what is coming.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Do you remember "The Sheriff" from back in the 90s , Dig? some similarities here? LOL

Old School tactics?

Al Capone used to make "donations" to his local Police. And as if by magic his rivals were arrested in far greater numbers than he had them whacked. LOL.

Now I am getting compared to al Capone... It is getting better by the minute!

Btw, I will donate to any legal anti-piracy campaign that will take my money. No strings attached... If I give you money and you use it to go against one of my assets, so be it. It will be a waste since you will lose the fight, but I won't make it a condition for sending the money.

I missed this reply. Gossipping ass? Haha wtf. I've been called all sorts of things but this is new to me.

oh right, I think you're full of shit and a scammer more likely than not, which automatically means I'm a big pirate right?

ok I'm gonna start one tomorrow and I'm going after ummm.... TGP sites. Yes, TGP's, the guys who started the whole thing! And AFTER I get the tgp's then I'll clean up the MGP's and THEN... THEN the tubes are gonna get what's coming to them!

Now gimme some money.

You're the one who owns forums with file locker links to pirate content all over them.

You have an agenda, it's in your interests to discredit what I do in order to deflect attention to your own facilitation of piracy.

Do you deny that you own forums full of links to RapidGator and other incentivised file lockers ?

I could give a shit about those links, I don't make any money from them. I'd say about 80% of them are either 10 year old amateur tapes or amateur site operators trying to drum up traffic and for the other 20% I take down links upon request. So... you DO know what a forum is right? Like Freeones.com, another name which will never pass your lips, but on a much smaller scale because I keep them out of habit and tradition more than necessity.

Some big pirate right? Sorry to bust your bubble. My animosity towards you is A: your holier than thou tone and B: I've seen dozens like you come and go, and you're always up to no good.

If you don't make money from them then it won't bother you to take them down, you have no right to distribute or facillitate the distribution of copyright infringing content. It doesn't matter how old the content is, if you don't own the rights or have a license to distribute it then it shouldn't be there.

So piracy is ok as long as you aren't a big pirate ?

You're a thief, you facilitate the theft and profiteering from stolen content.

It's in your self declared interest to decry our efforts because you directly benefit from piracy.

if you don't make money from this, then it won't bother you to stop spamming this forum 80 times daily right? You're a sanctimonious scammer (imho). It is in your interest to demonize everyone who dislikes your simpleminded arguments and to manipulate the gullible. Because you directly benefit from that.

You claim you own cuckolds.com. Here are some examples of the content theft that you preside over. Linking to some of the worst file lockers there are. Dig420, You are the scammer, you come on to GFY blustering about how bad our anti piracy efforts are while all the time you benefit directly from piracy.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...ds-forum-1.jpg


http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...ds-forum-2.jpg



http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...ds-forum-3.jpg

Do you see any referral links to tubes there that *I* get paid for? Would you like me to post a few million links on tubes with 10,000,000x more traffic than that forum gets that, unlike me, DON'T take down links upon request? You know, the biggest sites in the world that you're trying very hard to pretend don't exist while you kinda sorta go after sites that you don't think will fight back and collect 'donations'? Or maybe you'd like me to take a couple million screenshots of freeones or any other board that is popular, gets 10,000x more traffic that that board but which you've managed to never mention once?

Do you think that there is one person of any intelligence who doesn't see you trying to make this about me and doesn't dislike and mistrust you just that much more, you little cretin?

how the hell did we end up in this argument?