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Old 11-23-2012, 01:35 PM   #51
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The pic with small dog behind door made worth to open the thread.

The guy wrongly thinks that opening a thread in GFY is relevant... GFY threads have effects ONLY if you want to be paid by non-paying programs. Rest is blah blah, no any effectin the real world.

Whoever blame Manwin in a first post for anything, automatically lose any reputation as a source of any special info. And you cited plugrush "hey but I don't know only manwin name in biz"... oh you forgot dozen its competitors from who I buy traffic in SAME tube sites with same stolen content. Now about info, I keep update a now 37,000 lines long text file, since 1998 with all the sites data, owners (and pre-owners) + ICQ/email talks... still I don't open any thread about "I know stuff you guys ignore", I just use that info to make money, and is working well.

I don't even think the guy owns so bigger filelocker. A fake nick can say he's Steve Jobs ghost writing from other dimension, to fish for info and see answers.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:13 PM   #53
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As someone who doesn't have a stake in selling paysites anymore, I fully support file locker owners and illegal tube owners in their nefarious work. I think the combination of technical genius, legal machinations and don't-give-a-fuck attitude is quite admirable and truly blackhat. Just goes to show that might is right in the internet world, and fuck those pissant degenerate pervert content producers right in their diseased whore fucking asses.

Take what you want and watch those self righteous bitch content providers cry and moan and do nothing because they don't have the power to do shit in an era where you can't lock content down and you can't control where it goes. How unfair, file another DMCA request, boohoo.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:48 PM   #55
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So basically the OP is suggesting that Adultking works for and is financed by Manwin or some other pirate company and is tasked with taking out all of the others to leave his employer as last man standing and thus able to clean up in the piracy business?

Or put another way, one thief is crying that he is being victimized but other thieves are not...... (yet)?
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Um nothing elese from the OP? Weird..
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:10 PM   #58
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Mansef guys started filesonic after selling to Mankin. The site is no longer a file locker ... they freaked out after the Kim dot com arrest.

Manwin does not own file lockers. I am sure of that. They also do not upload stolen to their sites. Mansef did, not Manwin.

They do share videos between sites thought. This is not legal but they do it.

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Old 11-23-2012, 08:01 PM   #61
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So basically the OP is suggesting that Adultking works for and is financed by Manwin or some other pirate company and is tasked with taking out all of the others to leave his employer as last man standing and thus able to clean up in the piracy business?

Or put another way, one thief is crying that he is being victimized but other thieves are not...... (yet)?
This is what attracts me.
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Look, I worked there before. I don't like them but there's no reason to lie neither.

A bigger concern with manwin is their funding source. How can a company making xxx$ per year acquire a company making xxxxxxxxxx$ per year? There is only 1 way of doing that and it stinks.
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considering what AK does has no effect on piracy what so ever, a lot of people sure are concerned with what he is wasting his time on....
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considering what AK does has no effect on piracy what so ever, a lot of people sure are concerned with what he is wasting his time on....
it puts file lockers in proper perspective for payment processors, affiliates, hosting companies and generally leaves a bad taste in the mouth of everybody involved...your random out-of-ass statement that it has no effect is silly...file lockers, as a business model and earning $$ model, is going down the shitter...it is becoming harder and harder to run a successful file locker and things are and will get progressively worse...

to be honest, I am amazed that every single content owner has not jumped on this opportunity to fight for the future of their business considering what has already been done and this is just the beginning...what is it now just 5 months?

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considering what AK does has no effect on piracy what so ever, a lot of people sure are concerned with what he is wasting his time on....



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it puts file lockers in proper perspective for payment processors, affiliates, hosting companies and generally leaves a bad taste in the mouth of everybody involved...your random out-of-ass statement that it has no effect is silly...file lockers, as a business model and earning $$ model, is going down the shitter...it is becoming harder and harder to run a successful file locker and things are and will get progressively worse...

to be honest, I am amazed that every single content owner has not jumped on this opportunity to fight for the future of their business considering what has already been done and this is just the beginning...what is it now just 5 months?
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The pic with small dog behind door made worth to open the thread.

The guy wrongly thinks that opening a thread in GFY is relevant... GFY threads have effects ONLY if you want to be paid by non-paying programs. Rest is blah blah, no any effectin the real world.

Whoever blame Manwin in a first post for anything, automatically lose any reputation as a source of any special info. And you cited plugrush "hey but I don't know only manwin name in biz"... oh you forgot dozen its competitors from who I buy traffic in SAME tube sites with same stolen content. Now about info, I keep update a now 37,000 lines long text file, since 1998 with all the sites data, owners (and pre-owners) + ICQ/email talks... still I don't open any thread about "I know stuff you guys ignore", I just use that info to make money, and is working well.

I don't even think the guy owns so bigger filelocker. A fake nick can say he's Steve Jobs ghost writing from other dimension, to fish for info and see answers.
I have no clue what you just said.
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it puts file lockers in proper perspective for payment processors, affiliates, hosting companies and generally leaves a bad taste in the mouth of everybody involved...your random out-of-ass statement that it has no effect is silly...file lockers, as a business model and earning $$ model, is going down the shitter...it is becoming harder and harder to run a successful file locker and things are and will get progressively worse...

to be honest, I am amazed that every single content owner has not jumped on this opportunity to fight for the future of their business considering what has already been done and this is just the beginning...what is it now just 5 months?

stock up on vaseline...send a tub to kim.com also
What exactly has been done? Not 1 big filelocker has been shut down. A bunch of random low traffic lockers lost processing. Big fucking deal. Just 1 big tube probably sees more traffic in a hour than all those lockers combined in a week. But AK doesn't seem to be bothered by big tubes hosting insane amounts of stolen content. Visited by insane amounts of visitors every day. I really wonder why.
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You might raise a good question or two but my suspicion is that this is mostly more divide and conquer. The bottom line is that AK and his crew are doing a good job thus far. Real results are being realized.

If you want to go after tubes, Manwin, or other filelockers which you feel are being neglected by his efforts then you are free to do so by imitating his methods. I may even assist. If you aren't going to do that then shut up and let him work. Don't criticize the people who are actually doing the work while you sit on your couch.
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so do you run anyof these? im not aksing you to release which one.

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What exactly has been done? Not 1 big filelocker has been shut down. A bunch of random low traffic lockers lost processing. Big fucking deal.
So why does it keep bothering you enough to post over and over and over again that it is no big deal?

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Just 1 big tube probably sees more traffic in a hour than all those lockers combined in a week. But AK doesn't seem to be bothered by big tubes hosting insane amounts of stolen content. Visited by insane amounts of visitors every day. I really wonder why.
Put the letters together and say them slowly like a good boy and daddy will put a gold start on the wall for you. STOP FILE LOCKERS.

Now say it again. And again. One more time. That's a good boy!

You also fail to comprehend, as most other AK haters do, the difference between free porn and piracy. There is a difference. Maybe for pirates it's all the same, but for people who are not into piracy, the difference is huge.
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You might raise a good question or two but my suspicion is that this is mostly more divide and conquer. The bottom line is that AK and his crew are doing a good job thus far. Real results are being realized.
Most of the people here have no concept of strategic planning or any planning at all. It's very easy to spot the people who live by the seat of their pants. It is beyond clear why AK would do exactly what he is doing and how he is doing it. Divide and conquer, hone your skills, build your relationships with processors, and everything else you would need to be ready to deliver a real blow to some of the largest sites. But these clowns just want him to go in like a raging bull with no plan or preparation, like they do in their own lives, which usually results in failure.

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If you want to go after tubes, Manwin, or other filelockers which you feel are being neglected by his efforts then you are free to do so by imitating his methods. I may even assist. If you aren't going to do that then shut up and let him work. Don't criticize the people who are actually doing the work while you sit on your couch.
It's so much easier for them to complain. That's what bitches and haters do.
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So why does it keep bothering you enough to post over and over and over again that it is no big deal?
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Because i don't like him. There's something shady about him. You're too far up his ass to see it though.
As i said before we will find out sooner or later what his hidden agenda is. And you will look like a total idiot and tell me i was right.
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Because i don't like him. There's something shady about him. You're too far up his ass to see it though.
As i said before we will find out sooner or later what his hidden agenda is. And you will look like a total idiot and tell me i was right.
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Because i don't like him. There's something shady about him. You're too far up his ass to see it though.

As i said before we will find out sooner or later what his hidden agenda is. And you will look like a total idiot and tell me i was right.
I know the agenda, talk to him about it, know the plan, and see the results. There is no "up his ass" because 1) it is called support, and 2) I know what is going on and get daily updates about it sent to my email.

What hidden agenda could there possibly be, that he eventually wants to stop paying out of his own pocket and working literally all day on this, so that one day he can, heaven forbid, make a buck so he can hire a few people to help him? The shame.

Look, I don't care if he puts every pirate out of business except Manwin, who in turn rules the piracy world. Better there be one Manwin who plays by the rules than 10,000 pirate piss ants who don't.

But lets say you are right and you find out whatever that "hidden agenda" is, then what? You're gonna make more threads about it and stop your feet real loud?
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DWB, I think Franck is an annoying clown and never liked his gossiping ass in the least, but he's right. I've always enjoyed AK posts, but after reading through pages of his replies and his AVN interview? Something ain't right. I've been around the block more times then I even care to remember and was puzzled Franck actually wrote that because to smell some sort of grift means at one time you were a grifter.

IMO there is someone who only wants one fox in the hen house.
Lets assume you and Franck are right. What is an absolute worst case scenario?

A) He makes a little money.
B) Manwin rids the internet of all their pirate competition.

Whatever the outcome, what is the problem? Content owners win either way. Manwin isn't going anywhere and neither are their sites, so I don't see a problem even if there is a hidden agenda.

What I do know is, almost every file locker pirate who has been stealing from me is now out of business. So whatever AK has to do and however it has to be funded, even if there is a hidden agenda, it's working for me.
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..your random out-of-ass statement that it has no effect is silly...
lets make sure to point out that the statement is not mine, merely repeated as sarcasm.
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I understand. BUT the only way you can truly stop pirates is to dish out severe examples.
You're a lot smarter than most around here, so you of all people should know that to dish out an extreme example you need the right ammo and plan to do it. Every duck has to be in a row and the proper relationships made at the right processors in order for anyone to give a shit about what you say. That takes time, trust, money, and practice, practice, practice.

He has only been at this for a few months and all of you guys expect him to end piracy overnight. How do you honestly think that is going to happen? Corbin Fisher took Oron down after MONTHS of research and a lot of legal. It didn't happen overnight. And do you know what happened to the piracy world? Nothing. The pirates went elsewhere because Fisher just wanted a payday, and that is what he got. AK has a long term plan where illegal lockers can not get billing, thus will cease to exist. Simply going after the biggest dog does NOTHING other than send that traffic elsewhere. Oron was proof of this and everyone so quickly forgets it. Anyone who thinks otherwise simply needs to go back and look at the Oron case.

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I got enough irons in the fire, but if I was a content owner and habitually caught Manwins tubes stealing my content, I'd do something about it. Off the top of my head, find out if he's still got a mom, find and wait for her to go food shopping or something and then approach her as it was being filmed.
But that still wouldn't keep your content off their sites because they don't control everyone on the planet who uploads to their sites.

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Post pictures of his kids stepping off a school bus, in-short, reach all the way into his home and plant an anchor. Meaning, make them wakeup everyday and see something in their lives that reminds them of you. They will eject it at all costs.
Again, that still doesn't keep your content off the sites. Showing Fabian or whoever that you know where his kids go to school won't stop some dick in Russia from uploading your videos on every tube or locker online so he can get internet cred or $20 bucks.

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trust me, it works.
No, it doesn't. Not with this.

It would only work if it was only the site owner who is uploading the content, but that is not the case. Unless you run down every pirate on earth, your methods simply do not work.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:13 PM   #88
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Plus if you went after Fabian in a personal way like that....he has a fucking room full of highpriced lawyers that you can't compete with.

AND...if that doesn't work, he's got enough money to pay someone to make sure you have an "accident" if he wanted to.

Fabian will get what's coming to him. He's a huge target to authorities. He's the Joe Francis (Girls Gone Wild) of the Porn Industry. And the way he suddenly and magically came up with hundreds of millions of dollars to buy Mansef and change it to Manwin is something that will get him when the time comes.

No need to go after him. He will fall under his own weight
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Plus if you went after Fabian in a personal way like that....he has a fucking room full of highpriced lawyers that you can't compete with.

AND...if that doesn't work, he's got enough money to pay someone to make sure you have an "accident" if he wanted to.

Fabian will get what's coming to him. He's a huge target to authorities. He's the Joe Francis (Girls Gone Wild) of the Porn Industry. And the way he suddenly and magically came up with hundreds of millions of dollars to buy Mansef and change it to Manwin is something that will get him when the time comes.

No need to go after him. He will fall under his own weight
Good lord... Fabian won't have you killed. He used to work for me, he's a nice guy with a nice wife, extremely talented programmer. He got access to venture capital and he's a supremely intelligent guy, the chances of him 'falling under his own weight' are slim to none.

Life is not like a Jason Statham movie.
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Good lord... Fabian won't have you killed. He used to work for me, he's a nice guy with a nice wife, extremely talented programmer. He got access to venture capital and he's a supremely intelligent guy, the chances of him 'falling under his own weight' are slim to none.

Life is not like a Jason Statham movie.
Didn't say it was like a movie. But if somebody started going after his family and his attorneys couldn't stop it, who knows?

And I believe Fabian is the big fall guy for this whole thing. He's under the microscope of law enforcement everywhere.

I don't know what work Fabian did for you in the past (programming?), but maybe you'll be able to hire him again in a few years?
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:04 PM   #91
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Robbie, you're believing the story he spun ie., hundreds of millions. IMO, it's a lot less money and it's the money Daniel Sudden extorted as Fabian is just laundering it. Why? if someone gave you $200 million would you tell anyone about it?
You could be right. One thing is for sure, none of it makes any sense to me.

And I'm sure it doesn't make any sense to the authorities either.
Which is why I think he's gonna be another Joe Francis...or OJ type person. Where the authorities take every opportunity to go after him for every little thing.

And when you own and operate huge pirate sites like Pornhub on top of a big time shady deal in acquiring the company to begin with...and then you prance around drawing attention to yourself...well, history shows what happens to people in the adult industry when they start drawing attention to themselves.
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Might is right on the internet in 2012 and beyond.

At one point megaupload accounted for ~4% of all internet traffic. The only reason Kim got taken down was because the MAFIAA exerted their lobbying influence. However, no one gives a fuck about a bunch of butthurt pornographers... Hence the fact that companies are lining up cap in hand to buy spots on illegal tubes, file lockers and piracy boards that get their traffic from stolen content.

Like JHC mentioned above, you need leverage to get paid, and the vast majority content providers have zero leverage. Once again, traffic is king!
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Might is right on the internet in 2012 and beyond.

However, no one gives a fuck about a bunch of butthurt pornographers
What do you do for a living?
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So basically the OP is suggesting that Adultking works for and is financed by Manwin or some other pirate company and is tasked with taking out all of the others to leave his employer as last man standing and thus able to clean up in the piracy business?

Or put another way, one thief is crying that he is being victimized but other thieves are not...... (yet)?


That's how I read the OP.
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What do you do for a living?
Spam search engines. I still do cams and dating - content that can't be stolen.

I won't lie, I made my living from selling porn sites for many years (via SEs mostly). But in my experience it is very true that porn and the adult industry in general is shady and immoral as fuck, on both the traffic and content sides.

Yes I know you are going to jump in and provide a litany of the fine, upstanding and well adjusted people you know in the porn industry. But I have spent enough time around the adult industry to know that a majority of people in it (present company excepted) are basically fucked in the head perverts who would whore their own mother for a buck.

Bit of a bummer if someone is heavily invested in producing content and they see their livelihood going down the toilet because technically and legally savvy operators are taking their shit and profiting on it without you seeing a dime. But at the same time said person is building a livelihood around taking smutty pictures and videos... There might be demand for it because of base human nature, but it's not exactly highly creative and world-enriching stuff.

So personally, since I only work on the traffic side of the equation, I find the hand wringing quite amusing. The writing was on the wall for general porn a long time ago. The nature of technology and the particular viewership of porn makes fighting piracy an impossible battle.
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that a majority of people in it (present company excepted) are basically fucked in the head perverts who would whore their own mother for a buck.
My grandfather was in the citrus and cattle industry. The deals he was involved in and the stories he told me could fit that.

One of my brothers is a car salesman. They go far beyond your statement.

My other brother is a fishing captain. The stories he's told me of the dirty tricks his competitors have pulled on him go beyond your statement.

I have a feeling, that ANY occupation you pick is full of "perverts who would whore their own mother for a buck".

Hell, just look at politicians! They make us look like amateurs at pimpin' and whorin'
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Spam search engines. I still do cams and dating - content that can't be stolen.

I won't lie, I made my living from selling porn sites for many years (via SEs mostly). But in my experience it is very true that porn and the adult industry in general is shady and immoral as fuck, on both the traffic and content sides.

Yes I know you are going to jump in and provide a litany of the fine, upstanding and well adjusted people you know in the porn industry. But I have spent enough time around the adult industry to know that a majority of people in it (present company excepted) are basically fucked in the head perverts who would whore their own mother for a buck.

Bit of a bummer if someone is heavily invested in producing content and they see their livelihood going down the toilet because technically and legally savvy operators are taking their shit and profiting on it without you seeing a dime. But at the same time said person is building a livelihood around taking smutty pictures and videos... There might be demand for it because of base human nature, but it's not exactly highly creative and world-enriching stuff.

So personally, since I only work on the traffic side of the equation, I find the hand wringing quite amusing. The writing was on the wall for general porn a long time ago. The nature of technology and the particular viewership of porn makes fighting piracy an impossible battle.
I disagree. Mario Salieri and Marc Dorcel 'enrich my world' at least three or four times a week.
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I disagree. Mario Salieri and Marc Dorcel 'enrich my world' at least three or four times a week.
I see you are a man of taste!
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There's always an agenda.
Not everyone is a crook or trying to work an angle. That is a concept unusual to porn people I know, but could it be the agenda is to do what he says he is doing? And if he can keep it funded and hire people to help him, what exactly is the problem?

Whatever the "agenda" is, he's doing a great job.
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Could be he wants to build an anti-piracy business. Could be he just wants attention. But it could also be he is taking out somebodies competition. Regardless what it may be, there is always an agenda.
Everyone in life who is successful has a plan. Why wouldn't he? And why would anyone care what that plan is unless he is impacting their business?

But even if his plan turns out to be the most sinister plan in the history of sinister plans, who loses other than pirates? I really don't see what all the fuss is about unless everyone complaining is involved in piracy somehow, like several of the anon posters who have been showing up. Otherwise they simply wouldn't care.

What is funny is, the guy fighting piracy gets more hate and attention than the pirates who are robbing everyone blind. It is probably safe to say that explains everything.
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