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Jakke PNG · 02-15-2003, 08:23 AM

I haven't gotten one yet.. but I don't really see the point.
unless.. can I directly put funds from paypal to epassporte account? If not.. what's the point? I can just use my regular CC. Now, if I could just put money from paypal directly to epassporte it would rock.. I wouldn't have to wait that fucking week to get paypal money on my bankaccount...

So, can I do this?

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 08:31 AM

You can use your Paypal Mastercard to buy into epassporte if you like, on a personal account, but no you cannot transfer funds from one to the other any other way. If you have a commercial account you can wire money onto your account any time you like also.

Soon enough you'll be able to do ACH transfers onto the epassporte and there are some other neat fund loading methods in the works.

One of the biggest advantages to epassporte is that you don't have to have a credit card in order to get the Visa cards associated with the system -- and so far as I know you cannot get the Paypal cards unless you have a valid cc, or debit card, regardless of how the money was put onto your Paypal account. There is no time restriction to getting the Visa card with epassporte, whereas with Paypal in addition to having a valid check or debit card you also have to wait for 60 days before they will issue you the debit card.

With epassporte if a sponsor or someone puts money on your account you can access it immediately either online with the virtual number or as quickly as you can get to the ATM or a POS terminal with a pin code pad.

epassporte also works for countries that Paypal disallows... I can literally put money on account for anyone, anywhere, and they can then either spend it online or retrieve it from an ATM if they have the plastic card.

Brown Bear · 02-15-2003, 08:36 AM

I would use epassporte if other CC Processors like CCBill were able to payout to it.

Jakke PNG · 02-15-2003, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
You can use your Paypal Mastercard to buy into epassporte if you like, on a personal account, but no you cannot transfer funds from one to the other any other way.

I can't have the card. I'm from yurop.

Ok.. can I accept payments TO the epassporte..lets say from my designs site? How does that work. I'm trying to ponder here if it's worth getting the account.

REMbraNT · 02-15-2003, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

I can't have the card. I'm from yurop.

Ok.. can I accept payments TO the epassporte..lets say from my designs site? How does that work. I'm trying to ponder here if it's worth getting the account.

Yes you can, just tell your customer to send the amount to your epassporte email address. At present both you and your client need an epassporte account.

Jakke PNG · 02-15-2003, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by REMbraNT

At present both you and your client need an epassporte account.

No huge surprise there.. so it's very very close to paypal, right?

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 08:53 AM

Brown Bear, I believe that CCBill and quite a few sponsors will be integrating epassporte over the next month or so.

TGF -- people pay you with epassporte in a very similar manner to Paypal - you have a user name, which also gives you an email address @epassporte.com as well -- if I wanted to send you money, say I am kimmykim (well since I am), I would send money to your username, say it's teengodfather. The money is instantly there for you to use either by transferring it to other epassporte users or by purchasing something with the virtual Visa number. There have already been transactions where users have purchased airline tickets, books from Amazon, etc.

Now, if you have gotten the plastic Visa card with your account -- there are two levels of accounting here -- you can also get your cash from the ATM or pay at any PIN pad POS terminal -- like the gas station, the grocery store, etc.

You can also set up a commercial account with epassporte if you want to accept the transfers automatically, like with a shopping cart mechanism, but that is an entirely different functionality of the system. One advantage to epassporte versus Paypal if you are a merchant is that epassporte does NOT freeze your account if you get one chargeback or dispute. epassporte also does not freeze your ability to get money out of the commercial account if you start off with a lot of transactions and move money quickly, as Paypal will do

The other really nice thing about using epassporte to get paid by sponsors is the fact that you won't have to wait on a check, pay a wire or a fedex fee, and your bank won't be charging you to cash checks from the states when you are non-US.

Jakke PNG · 02-15-2003, 08:55 AM

I guess it won't hurt to get an account then.

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 08:58 AM

Not at all TGF... there will be some more neat things coming out from epassporte once there is a bit more integration, figure maybe a month and a half

brutus · 02-15-2003, 09:07 AM

I tried to get epassporte when it was introduced... using my clean Visa... but got denied. I asked from their customer service about that and got reply: Please try again with another cc. Great - that was the end of my adventures with epassporte. Still wondering if the problem was that I'm from Eu.

nice idea, but if it doesn´t work fine globally - which I understood - was the idea... it looses a lot of potential.

Jakke PNG · 02-15-2003, 09:11 AM

I just signed up with my mastercard without any problem.

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brutus
I tried to get epassporte when it was introduced... using my clean Visa... but got denied. I asked from their customer service about that and got reply: Please try again with another cc. Great - that was the end of my adventures with epassporte. Still wondering if the problem was that I'm from Eu.

nice idea, but if it doesn´t work fine globally - which I understood - was the idea... it looses a lot of potential.

Hmmm, that is odd, it should work no problem unless your bank declined the transaction. There is fraud scrubbing in the system but it's a completely different type of transaction than adult for instance so it should go thru much easier.

J B · 02-15-2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brutus
I tried to get epassporte when it was introduced... using my clean Visa... but got denied. I asked from their customer service about that and got reply: Please try again with another cc. Great - that was the end of my adventures with epassporte. Still wondering if the problem was that I'm from Eu.

nice idea, but if it doesn´t work fine globally - which I understood - was the idea... it looses a lot of potential.

I'm from the EU as well and had no problems at all. Also, a few guys from Eastern Europe opened an account with epassporte so that they could join StatsRemote and then either paid with their virtual visa or p2p...

brutus · 02-15-2003, 09:27 AM

Ok, maybe I should try again.

I don't remember if CVV2 number is required, however
the card I tried have CVV2, but my another CC doesn't have it.

Anyway, I will try again - let's see what happens - the idea behind epassporte is great.

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 09:28 AM

Hmmm, that may be the issue, the cvv2

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 04:06 PM

brutus, did you try again?

Theo · 02-15-2003, 04:10 PM

Kimmykim when spotbrokers gonna activate epassporte option?

Michael O · 02-15-2003, 04:21 PM

ARS is going to make payouts availible to epassporte in a couple of weeks

Theo · 02-15-2003, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Kimmykim when spotbrokers gonna activate epassporte option?

for buying traffic

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 04:37 PM

We are waiting on a redone version of the API that's being created for us -- it's fairly complicated and while we thought we would have had it yesterday, it's looking like Tuesday before we'll get it -- as soon as we get it from the techs, Backov will have it up and running, you know he is good like that

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 04:43 PM

Oh and did I mention I was a dipshit too???

You can do a manual push on epassporte now to the user account kimmykim and then just let me know via email to [email protected] so I can verify and then we can manually add you into the system with the allocation.

Theo · 02-15-2003, 04:58 PM

thanks KK

Kimmykim · 02-15-2003, 06:57 PM

sure thing

MonkeyMan · 02-17-2003, 02:19 AM

Will Epassporte mail you checks, and how much does it cost?

I have been using spotbrokers a few days now and it said you would be paying via paypal. Now all of the sudden "We will be paying by Epassporte, automation of this is coming soon." I reeally dont feel like using Epassporte. I dont want to pay for one of thier credit cards and I don't really want my money in an Epassporte virtual account. Some of us like the cash in hand.

Rich · 02-17-2003, 02:50 AM

Anyone know if/when epoch will start paying directly to epassport accounts, or do they already?

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

One of the biggest advantages to epassporte is that you don't have to have a credit card in order to get the Visa cards associated with the system --

?

You have to have a credit card to get an epassport account, right?

Kimmykim · 02-17-2003, 02:51 AM

It's possible that you may get a wire from us, the reality of the situation is that Paypal is very inconvenient for many people, and the benefits of epassporte are so much greater. Too many people are charged to cash checks by their banks, made to wait 10-15 days to get the cash from their checks by their banks to make checks a feasible immediate solution for small amounts.

Email me if you want to go over specifics

[email protected]

Kimmykim · 02-17-2003, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Anyone know if/when epoch will start paying directly to epassport accounts, or do they already?

?

You have to have a credit card to get an epassport account, right?

Not if someone else is loading your account, like a sponsor or someone that is paying you for something.

Rich · 02-17-2003, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Not if someone else is loading your account, like a sponsor or someone that is paying you for something.

How do you get an account though? When I try to join with my Visa that I use online regularly, it tells me that "You have entered an invalid credit card number". So far I've been too lazy to call them up and find out what the problem is, since I don't need one badly right now. Is there a way to join with no cc?

Kimmykim · 02-17-2003, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

How do you get an account though? When I try to join with my Visa that I use online regularly, it tells me that "You have entered an invalid credit card number". So far I've been too lazy to call them up and find out what the problem is, since I don't need one badly right now. Is there a way to join with no cc?

Email me your name on the cc you've tried with Rich, if you don't mind, and I will find out what the problem is exactly --

Rich · 02-17-2003, 03:00 AM

What's your e-mail address? Leave it here please and I'll e-mail you my info tomorrow.

thanks

Petr · 02-17-2003, 03:02 AM

KK, I'm having the same problem. All my cards are being denied. It looks the scrubbing is as hard as for adult transactions...

Pornwolf · 02-17-2003, 03:03 AM

Send a couple of signups to the guys at Flash Cash They have been leading the charge on this new payment method. You also get the initial fee for the physical card waived of you want it. 1 or two signups gets you in and setup with money to spend. They are the only sponsor I know of that is totally connected with this Esspassporte thing.

Can't beat that deal.

Kimmykim · 02-17-2003, 03:05 AM

[email protected] is one to use -- just send me the names on the cards that you were using and I'll get with Mallick asap to see what the issue is -- i KNOW the cards aren't being scrubbed like adult transactions, there is no reason whatsoever for that and it defeats the purpose --

jonnax · 02-17-2003, 06:19 AM

I got rejected also....
Epassporte should do something about the scrubbing..

I admit i used a 14-day eastern european ( http://www.eyp.ee/pages.php3/13010417 )
virtualvisa when i tried to signup but i had no problems with that visa when i bought a couple of domains from godaddy and one paysite (billing company was some exotic called yespayments.com ) testmembership.

So if the cardnumber was good enough for them i think it should be good enough for epassporte also...

Pornwolf · 02-17-2003, 07:08 AM

I got a couple of ICQ's about my post. Let me clarify, yes, Flashcash will totally get the card for you. You don't have to use your credit card at all initially. They get it for you and pay you directly through the Esspassporte account. No worries.

They also pay you instantly through the card so you might never have to load it with money yourself. Pretty cool.

jonnax · 02-17-2003, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I got a couple of ICQ's about my post. Let me clarify, yes, Flashcash will totally get the card for you. You don't have to use your credit card at all initially. They get it for you and pay you directly through the Esspassporte account. No worries.

They also pay you instantly through the card so you might never have to load it with money yourself. Pretty cool.

I noticed that flashcash use Electronic group´s dialer system as a alternative payment method for surfers

Do their affiliates get any comission from that revenue ???

jonnax · 02-17-2003, 12:30 PM

So i quess they are not paying for dialerminutes then

strobi · 02-17-2003, 01:01 PM

Your program is comming off the ground quite nicely Kimmykim! Can't wait till the epassporte payments! nice........

dd2 · 02-17-2003, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jonnax
So i quess they are not paying for dialerminutes then

They do pay for dialer mins, Not sure what they pay per country though

Kimmykim · 02-17-2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi
Your program is comming off the ground quite nicely Kimmykim! Can't wait till the epassporte payments! nice........

Thanks strobi -- we're hoping to have the epassporte buy in done tomorrow, we've got one sender who did beta for us and is getting a nice epassporte payment this week already

02-15-2003, 08:23 AM	#1
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	epassporte? I haven't gotten one yet.. but I don't really see the point. unless.. can I directly put funds from paypal to epassporte account? If not.. what's the point? I can just use my regular CC. Now, if I could just put money from paypal directly to epassporte it would rock.. I wouldn't have to wait that fucking week to get paypal money on my bankaccount... So, can I do this? __________________ ..and I'm off.

02-15-2003, 08:36 AM	#3
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	I would use epassporte if other CC Processors like CCBill were able to payout to it. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

02-15-2003, 08:55 AM	#8
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I guess it won't hurt to get an account then. __________________ ..and I'm off.

02-15-2003, 09:11 AM	#11
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I just signed up with my mastercard without any problem. __________________ ..and I'm off.

02-15-2003, 04:21 PM	#18
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	ARS is going to make payouts availible to epassporte in a couple of weeks __________________ Truth Teller

02-15-2003, 08:31 AM	#2
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	You can use your Paypal Mastercard to buy into epassporte if you like, on a personal account, but no you cannot transfer funds from one to the other any other way. If you have a commercial account you can wire money onto your account any time you like also. Soon enough you'll be able to do ACH transfers onto the epassporte and there are some other neat fund loading methods in the works. One of the biggest advantages to epassporte is that you don't have to have a credit card in order to get the Visa cards associated with the system -- and so far as I know you cannot get the Paypal cards unless you have a valid cc, or debit card, regardless of how the money was put onto your Paypal account. There is no time restriction to getting the Visa card with epassporte, whereas with Paypal in addition to having a valid check or debit card you also have to wait for 60 days before they will issue you the debit card. With epassporte if a sponsor or someone puts money on your account you can access it immediately either online with the virtual number or as quickly as you can get to the ATM or a POS terminal with a pin code pad. epassporte also works for countries that Paypal disallows... I can literally put money on account for anyone, anywhere, and they can then either spend it online or retrieve it from an ATM if they have the plastic card.

02-15-2003, 08:53 AM	#7
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Brown Bear, I believe that CCBill and quite a few sponsors will be integrating epassporte over the next month or so. TGF -- people pay you with epassporte in a very similar manner to Paypal - you have a user name, which also gives you an email address @epassporte.com as well -- if I wanted to send you money, say I am kimmykim (well since I am), I would send money to your username, say it's teengodfather. The money is instantly there for you to use either by transferring it to other epassporte users or by purchasing something with the virtual Visa number. There have already been transactions where users have purchased airline tickets, books from Amazon, etc. Now, if you have gotten the plastic Visa card with your account -- there are two levels of accounting here -- you can also get your cash from the ATM or pay at any PIN pad POS terminal -- like the gas station, the grocery store, etc. You can also set up a commercial account with epassporte if you want to accept the transfers automatically, like with a shopping cart mechanism, but that is an entirely different functionality of the system. One advantage to epassporte versus Paypal if you are a merchant is that epassporte does NOT freeze your account if you get one chargeback or dispute. epassporte also does not freeze your ability to get money out of the commercial account if you start off with a lot of transactions and move money quickly, as Paypal will do The other really nice thing about using epassporte to get paid by sponsors is the fact that you won't have to wait on a check, pay a wire or a fedex fee, and your bank won't be charging you to cash checks from the states when you are non-US.

02-15-2003, 08:58 AM	#9
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Not at all TGF... there will be some more neat things coming out from epassporte once there is a bit more integration, figure maybe a month and a half

02-15-2003, 09:07 AM	#10
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	I tried to get epassporte when it was introduced... using my clean Visa... but got denied. I asked from their customer service about that and got reply: Please try again with another cc. Great - that was the end of my adventures with epassporte. Still wondering if the problem was that I'm from Eu. nice idea, but if it doesn´t work fine globally - which I understood - was the idea... it looses a lot of potential.

02-15-2003, 09:27 AM	#14
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	Ok, maybe I should try again. I don't remember if CVV2 number is required, however the card I tried have CVV2, but my another CC doesn't have it. Anyway, I will try again - let's see what happens - the idea behind epassporte is great.

02-15-2003, 09:28 AM	#15
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Hmmm, that may be the issue, the cvv2

02-15-2003, 04:06 PM	#16
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	brutus, did you try again?

02-15-2003, 04:10 PM	#17
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Kimmykim when spotbrokers gonna activate epassporte option?

02-15-2003, 04:37 PM	#20
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	We are waiting on a redone version of the API that's being created for us -- it's fairly complicated and while we thought we would have had it yesterday, it's looking like Tuesday before we'll get it -- as soon as we get it from the techs, Backov will have it up and running, you know he is good like that

02-15-2003, 04:43 PM	#21
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Oh and did I mention I was a dipshit too??? You can do a manual push on epassporte now to the user account kimmykim and then just let me know via email to [email protected] so I can verify and then we can manually add you into the system with the allocation.

02-15-2003, 04:58 PM	#22
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	thanks KK

02-15-2003, 06:57 PM	#23
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	sure thing

02-17-2003, 02:19 AM	#24
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	Will Epassporte mail you checks, and how much does it cost? I have been using spotbrokers a few days now and it said you would be paying via paypal. Now all of the sudden "We will be paying by Epassporte, automation of this is coming soon." I reeally dont feel like using Epassporte. I dont want to pay for one of thier credit cards and I don't really want my money in an Epassporte virtual account. Some of us like the cash in hand.

02-17-2003, 02:51 AM	#26
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	It's possible that you may get a wire from us, the reality of the situation is that Paypal is very inconvenient for many people, and the benefits of epassporte are so much greater. Too many people are charged to cash checks by their banks, made to wait 10-15 days to get the cash from their checks by their banks to make checks a feasible immediate solution for small amounts. Email me if you want to go over specifics [email protected]

02-17-2003, 03:00 AM	#30
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	What's your e-mail address? Leave it here please and I'll e-mail you my info tomorrow. thanks

02-17-2003, 03:02 AM	#31
Petr Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 502	KK, I'm having the same problem. All my cards are being denied. It looks the scrubbing is as hard as for adult transactions...

02-17-2003, 03:03 AM	#32
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Send a couple of signups to the guys at Flash Cash They have been leading the charge on this new payment method. You also get the initial fee for the physical card waived of you want it. 1 or two signups gets you in and setup with money to spend. They are the only sponsor I know of that is totally connected with this Esspassporte thing. Can't beat that deal. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

02-17-2003, 03:05 AM	#33
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	[email protected] is one to use -- just send me the names on the cards that you were using and I'll get with Mallick asap to see what the issue is -- i KNOW the cards aren't being scrubbed like adult transactions, there is no reason whatsoever for that and it defeats the purpose --

02-17-2003, 06:19 AM	#34
jonnax Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 187	I got rejected also.... Epassporte should do something about the scrubbing.. I admit i used a 14-day eastern european ( http://www.eyp.ee/pages.php3/13010417 ) virtualvisa when i tried to signup but i had no problems with that visa when i bought a couple of domains from godaddy and one paysite (billing company was some exotic called yespayments.com ) testmembership. So if the cardnumber was good enough for them i think it should be good enough for epassporte also...

02-17-2003, 07:08 AM	#35
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I got a couple of ICQ's about my post. Let me clarify, yes, Flashcash will totally get the card for you. You don't have to use your credit card at all initially. They get it for you and pay you directly through the Esspassporte account. No worries. They also pay you instantly through the card so you might never have to load it with money yourself. Pretty cool. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

02-17-2003, 12:30 PM	#37
jonnax Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 187	So i quess they are not paying for dialerminutes then

02-17-2003, 01:01 PM	#38
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	Your program is comming off the ground quite nicely Kimmykim! Can't wait till the epassporte payments! nice........