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Bryan G

11-19-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by soundXstudio (Post 19321645)

the american nation is crazy ... becouse is too young to know how the things need to be done :winkwink:

Huh?????

Choopa Phil

11-19-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 19321546)

the problem, IMO with Americans, is we are all greedy and want MORE. plus most of us are poor as fuck, so if you have to feed a family of 5, its cheaper to go to McDonalds then going to the store and making healthy food for you and

Show me how its more expensive to purchase 1-2lbs of chicken, rice/brocolli VS 3 happy meals, and 2 regular meals. If you shop smart (which you should if you are poor) its not that hard. Eggs and oats, chicken and oats, its CHEAP.

pornmasta

11-19-2012 11:16 AM

Rochard

11-19-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 19321225)

I'm 5'11 and weight 155lbs. But that's cause I eat better than most.

Your missing something - your age.

I was 5'11" and 170lbs for twenty years until I hit forty-two.

baddog

11-19-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19321728)

Your missing something - your age.

I was 5'11" and 170lbs for twenty years until I hit forty-two.

I am 5'11" and weigh 170 (or less) and am 59. What does age have to do with it?

RKLover

11-19-2012 11:28 AM

I have to agree with many points made here by Colmike, Baddog, etc.

Yes you can eat healthy in the states, it won't matter if you don't exercise.

When you go to the major metropolitan areas where people use mass transit and walk more, the average person is slimmer. I've worked in downtown Chicago, Denver and New York.

For example, in Chicago each day started with walking a km from my home to the train station, walked 2 km each way from the train to the office. Walked all over town for lunch. I would lose weight just trying to decide what I wanted each day ;-)

The difference from North to South is also fairly evident. When it is warm in the North, people get outside to enjoy it, because winter will be here too soon. But in the South, since Air Conditioning became common, people hide inside from the heat. I've lived in Texas 3 times over the past 30 years, and the change from 1980 to 2006 was noticeable.

Our kids start fat now because they sit on their asses, watch TV and play video games.

Their parents drop them off and pick them up from school every day. When I was a kid, we walked to and from school every day, my Mom allowed us 30 minutes of TV each night - if you were bored or it was raining - read. Weekends and summer we were out the door in the morning, as soon as chores were finished, and played all day. Fast food and junk food was never part of our diet.

I eat poorly, drink excessively, suffer from lactose and wheat intolerance, yet still managed to attract girls 15 to 30 years younger than me. Even though I'm 5'10 and 200+ lbs, my Doctor says my blood pressure, blood sugar and cholesterol levels are all great for my age. It is because I exercise regularly. It's that simple.

I should not, I'm not at all exceptional in this regard. All of the kids I grew up with from my old neighborhood still look good too. Amazing what good parenting can do for a kids future.

Colmike9

11-19-2012 11:32 AM

Off topic, but is anyone else getting a tools.fetishhits login popup on the first page of this thread?.. Weird.

2MuchMark

11-19-2012 11:33 AM

When Tracy and I go out for dinner now we always buy 1 meal and share it. It's not the price, it's just the insane amount of food they pile onto the plate. We feel guilty eating it all, and we feel guilty wasting some, and we pay too much for that so why bother? Sharing a meal is so much better all the way around. Restaurants need to figure this out. We would be happy even they charged 2% less and gave 50% less food, and they would make more money too.

baddog

11-19-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19321741)

Off topic, but is anyone else getting a tools.fetishhits login popup on the first page of this thread?.. Weird.

I thought it was from your sig. It was not happening at the beginning of the thread.

BlackCrayon

11-19-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19321459)

I guess my first questions would be why would you go to McDonald's in the first place and why did you order the largest sizes possible? You do realize that all meals come in 3 sizes (at least).

Again, they have 3 or 4 sizes of sodas available and no one forces anyone to have a refill.

That is your own fault.It is easy to eat well on the road if you stop and pay attention to your surroundings. There is never a reason to step inside a fast food restaurant.

These are all from places I found on the road:

Shamrock, TX

http://www.gotbaddog.com/wp-content/...dtrip_8303.jpg

Albuquerque, NM

http://www.gotbaddog.com/wp-content/...dtrip_8364.jpg

Miles City, MT

http://www.gotbaddog.com/wp-content/...scity_4214.jpg

Valparaiso, IN

http://www.gotbaddog.com/wp-content/...pikks_0379.jpg

I have hundreds of such examples. All you have to do is open your eyes. :2 cents:

sad fact is while these meals cost little to make, they most likely charge more than any average american restaurant.

Colmike9

11-19-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19321744)

I thought it was from your sig. It was not happening at the beginning of the thread.

I don't think so. I just took FH out of my sig and same thing..
(I'm putting it back now)

baddog

11-19-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19321752)

sad fact is while these meals cost little to make, they most likely charge more than any average american restaurant.

What are you basing that comment on? While you are at it, what is the cost at an "average American restaurant?"

baddog

11-19-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19321761)

I don't think so. I just took FH out of my sig and same thing..
(I'm putting it back now)

Like I said, I thought it was; of course, since it did not happen on page 2, I eliminated it as the cause

JesseQuinn

11-19-2012 11:41 AM

@ColMike, yeah, I did too

every time I go down to Miami I laugh my ass off at what's considered a 'normal' portion size. One memorable one was a 'side' on the fucking children's menu made up of 1/2 lb of french fries. Raising tomorrow's diabetics today, I guess:/

I agree that general lifestyle plays a huge role, in that people who never walk farther than it takes to get from the front door to the car will gain weight over time, but diet really is the biggest factor in body mass. I work out like a fiend but if I ate like a typical North American (we're getting pretty bad up here in Canada as well) I'd be huge.

Very few peole can drink vats of sugary drinks and eat huge plates brimming with fried foods and not look like a house. It's crazy that those types of diets are considered normal to many.

Colmike9

11-19-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19321769)

Like I said, I thought it was; of course, since it did not happen on page 2, I eliminated it as the cause

I figured, just making sure :winkwink:

Choopa Phil

11-19-2012 11:45 AM

You can pretty much eat whatever you want within reason if you have the lean body mass to support it. The more muscle you have the higher your metabolic rate is and the more you need to "feed the machine" so to speak. Muscle is active and live, where as fat is not and requires no calories to be maintained.

Choopa Phil

11-19-2012 11:55 AM

General health rule to live by...if it doesnt, grow from the ground, swim, fly, or walk...its most likely bad for you. It truly is hard to over eat on chicken breasts and tilapia.

ilnjscb

11-19-2012 12:05 PM

http://i51.tinypic.com/5caqrl.jpg

BlackCrayon

11-19-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19321767)

What are you basing that comment on? While you are at it, what is the cost at an "average American restaurant?"

general observations and the presentation of the plates. family chain restaurants like applebees or whatever, prices are generally 15-20 bucks for a meal i guess, for restaurants with smaller severings tend to be more expensive type restaurants that take greater care in how its made and how its presented.

toootooo

11-19-2012 12:08 PM

bcs of americans fress artificial meals

Bryan G

11-19-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19321804)

General health rule to live by...if it doesnt, grow from the ground, swim, fly, or walk...its most likely bad for you. It truly is hard to over eat on chicken breasts and tilapia.

you mean I can eat as many double down KFC chicken breasts as i want??? lol

Choopa Phil

11-19-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19321834)

you mean I can eat as many double down KFC chicken breasts as i want??? lol

Of course! :1orglaugh

_Richard_

11-19-2012 01:05 PM

gonna go with lack of exercise

baddog

11-19-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19321827)

general observations and the presentation of the plates. family chain restaurants like applebees or whatever, prices are generally 15-20 bucks for a meal i guess, for restaurants with smaller severings tend to be more expensive type restaurants that take greater care in how its made and how its presented.

So. you don't know what you are talking about, but rather, just guessing.

I have found that pricing at restaurants usually has something to do with the COLA of the area, but rent is the biggest factor.

The caprese was $7.00; the humus was $8.50

georgeyw

11-19-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19321459)

I guess my first questions would be why would you go to McDonald's in the first place and why did you order the largest sizes possible? You do realize that all meals come in 3 sizes (at least).

1 - I arrived at LAX, jumped in a rental and started driving. Also since i'm tall I don't sleep much on planes so tired + not knowing the place + driving = grab first thing you see once out of LA.

2 - Large in Australia is not the same as large over there. Large over there could feed two people here. Yes I know what size meals come in you condescending prick, I was not expecting (nor would the rest of the world) to have a kilo of chips given to me or enough coke to sink a battleship.

You do realise that the fact is, there is a massive obesity problem in the US and that your food portions are enormous. I don't hate America at all, far from it, simply relaying my experience of being there.

Having travelled I would have thought you would have noticed this, however it seems you travel the same way in which you post with your head planted firmly up your ass.

hottoddy

11-19-2012 01:33 PM

It also has a lot to do with cheap corn syrup and high carb, genetically modified wheat products. The least expensive food is loaded with high fructose corn syrup and genetically modified, starchy wheat. This stuff has only been around since the 70s, and even the wheat is different today (low protein, high sugar, high yield). These foods trigger insulin levels which creates bounce back hunger and overeating. The same crap is fed to most the livestock. Being obese in America is a good indicator of poor economic standing. It takes planning, and often a bit extra $ to eat well. In a society of hand-out Obama voters, they're gonna hit the dollar menu first.

georgeyw

11-19-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19321804)

General health rule to live by...if it doesnt, grow from the ground, swim, fly, or walk...its most likely bad for you. It truly is hard to over eat on chicken breasts and tilapia.

Haha was speaking to a foody the other day getting a few new recipes and that is pretty much exactly what they said.

baddog

11-19-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19321972)

1 - I arrived at LAX, jumped in a rental and started driving. Also since i'm tall I don't sleep much on planes so tired + not knowing the place + driving = grab first thing you see once out of LA.

2 - Large in Australia is not the same as large over there. Large over there could feed two people here. Yes I know what size meals come in you condescending prick, I was not expecting (nor would the rest of the world) to have a kilo of chips given to me or enough coke to sink a battleship.

You do realise that the fact is, there is a massive obesity problem in the US and that your food portions are enormous. I don't hate America at all, far from it, simply relaying my experience of being there.

Having travelled I would have thought you would have noticed this, however it seems you travel the same way in which you post with your head planted firmly up your ass.

The large fries (aka chips) available at McDonald's is 5.4 ounces; small is 2.5 oz. A large cola is 32 oz; the regular is 16. You are saying McD's in Oz are smaller portions?

mikesinner

11-19-2012 02:01 PM

I use to love 8oz bottles of coke as a kid. Perfect size for a non fatty kid.

BlackCrayon

11-19-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19321994)

The large fries (aka chips) available at McDonald's is 5.4 ounces; small is 2.5 oz. A large cola is 32 oz; the regular is 16. You are saying McD's in Oz are smaller portions?

here in canada a supersize was the equivalent of an american large at mcdonalds. though i think the've since gotten rid of the supersize.

Colmike9

11-19-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19322020)

I use to love 8oz bottles of coke as a kid. Perfect size for a non fatty kid.

I switched to diet or regular water and I lost 70 lbs in a year in 09.

BlackCrayon

11-19-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19321935)

So. you don't know what you are talking about, but rather, just guessing.

I have found that pricing at restaurants usually has something to do with the COLA of the area, but rent is the biggest factor.

The caprese was $7.00; the humus was $8.50

i have a habit of doing that sometimes. all i know is when i go out to eat at a chain type family restaurant, its way too much food but if i go to some tendy joint downtown its much smaller healthier foods (typically) for more money.

pimpmaster9000

11-19-2012 02:08 PM

they should introduce health tax...you would pay progressively less the less body fat % you have...obese people are practically invalids...if they dont give 2 fucks about themselves neither should society...it would be a cruel but good thing...homo sapiens will become a fat lazy fuck if the wellfare is big enough and the beer is cheap enough...its an age old problem...2000bc ancient scrolls write how the youth of that day only like beer and no work...

p.s. genetics don't mean shit... with the first law of thermodynamics in mind let me point out that if you spend 2000 calories but eat 1500 you will get thinner...

Colmike9

11-19-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19322037)

they should introduce health tax...you would pay progressively less the less body fat % you have...obese people are practically invalids...if they dont give 2 fucks about themselves neither should society...it would be a cruel but good thing...homo sapiens will become a fat lazy fuck if the wellfare is big enough and the beer is cheap enough...its an age old problem...2000bc ancient scrolls write how the youth of that day only like beer and no work...

p.s. genetics don't mean shit... with the first law of thermodynamics in mind let me point out that if you spend 2000 calories but eat 1500 you will get thinner...

The problem with that is most of the fatass lazy people in the USA seem to be the ones who go out and protest the most (Besides hippies..), and would end up demanding 'equal rights' for fat people. Then the media will get involved and cause much more problems... :disgust

PR_Glen

11-19-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19321933)

gonna go with lack of exercise

you can exercise all you want, if you eat too much of the wrong types of foods you will stay fat..

you really think there is some viable exercise that counter acts eating pastas, potatoes and sugars 10+ meals a week? No chance..

Colmike9

11-19-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19322054)

you can exercise all you want, if you eat too much of the wrong types of foods you will stay fat..

you really think there is some viable exercise that counter acts eating pastas, potatoes and sugars 10+ meals a week? No chance..

I eat like that, but I'm in shape because I'm constantly doing something active. I even do a lot of my programming at a park, either in a tree or up on this observation deck, since it's more fun than being at home. ;)

VenusBlogger

11-19-2012 02:28 PM

http://www.smilespedia.com/wp-conten...girlssized.jpg

Sarah_Jayne

11-19-2012 02:32 PM

Having come back to the States after so many years in Europe, what I have noticed is how it is nearly impossible to get a normal sized candy bar or a small single serving bag of chips. Everything is some 'now with more' or jumbo size.

Bryan G

11-19-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19322086)

Having come back to the States after so many years in Europe, what I have noticed is how it is nearly impossible to get a normal sized candy bar or a small single serving bag of chips. Everything is some 'now with more' or jumbo size.

Ya but people don't have to eat it all. Its the same as food when ordered at a restaurant. Eat half and take the rest home.

blackmonsters

11-19-2012 02:41 PM

"Why Americans are overweight?"

Because the war on drugs has lessen the available supplies of crack and meth.

:1orglaugh

Choopa Phil

11-19-2012 02:42 PM

^ All a matter of choice. becoming obese or overweight doesn't happen over night.

Sarah_Jayne

11-19-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19322089)

Ya but people don't have to eat it all. Its the same as food when ordered at a restaurant. Eat half and take the rest home.

Of course they don't and they don't have to buy it either. I simply make the choice not to buy it and avoid the temptation. However, most people reach for what they see, open and consume.

Colmike9

11-19-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19322100)

^ All a matter of choice. becoming obese or overweight doesn't happen over night.

Ever wonder why fat people have fat kids?... :upsidedow

Choopa Phil

11-19-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19322107)

Ever wonder why fat people have fat kids?... :upsidedow

And fat pets...its such a shame. I consider it indirect child abuse...disgusts me to see parents giving their kids bottles of juice/soda instead of water or milk.

Sarah_Jayne

11-19-2012 02:47 PM

I really like that California has calorie counts on just about everything at fast food or chain restaurants. I mentioned that to friends when I moved here and most of them hadn't even noticed it. For me, it is a really good mental trainer. I have trouble mentally justifying something that is over X amount of calories when I have worked so hard over the years to drop weight. I am sure most people that go to Starbucks, for example, have no real idea of the calorie count in the frappe or any of those sliced cakes. I can't even eat anything at most chain restaurants because the calorie counts on even their most basic dishes are often nearly my entire daily allowance. I wonder how many people pic up those nutritional guides that are on tables and actually read them.

Choopa Phil

11-19-2012 03:01 PM

This is why the US is fat, because we need to be spoon fed everything. Its why we live in a police state as it is. Without the govt to tell us whats good and bad for us we cant even figure it out for ourselves and it really is sad. Educate yourself for about an hour on nutrition youd be surprised on how much u can learn just from reading some basic caloric information about what you eat on a daily basis.

V_RocKs

11-19-2012 03:07 PM

I am phat. So fat I once sliced off a hip just so as I could BBQ the fucker and grow it back with some of that stuff that puts hair on your chest. Now I have hair on my hip. Talk about eating ones own hip fail!

Colmike9

11-19-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 19322153)

I am phat. So fat I once sliced off a hip just so as I could BBQ the fucker and grow it back with some of that stuff that puts hair on your chest. Now I have hair on my hip. Talk about eating ones own hip fail!

Are you into Apple? Because a lot of them are hipsters... :uhoh

Colmike9

11-19-2012 03:10 PM

100 Fat people :winkwink:

V_RocKs

11-19-2012 03:10 PM

Apple and fat don't go together. Nobody fat uses apple products. We aren't cool enough and spend all of our money on food.

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