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MaDalton · 11-12-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultEUhost

We just got a new government last week, their new policies involve huge tax increases.
There was a proposal which could be ending up to 500 euro a month in additional taxes depending on your situation. That proposal stranded already within a week.

But take the economy figures from Switzerland and Sweden (both not maintaining the euro) and compare these to your own country.

500 Euro in what case - when you earn 10.000 Euro a month or more?

and you're sure that this is the fault of the EU and not previous governments spending more than they took in?

anyways - people easily blame the EU and totally forget that a huge part of our wealth and freedom today is a result of the EU

tony286 · 11-12-2012, 09:29 AM

Let Texas go ,they receive more fed dollars than they pay in. And when they have to bankroll their own military.

SmutHammer · 11-12-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

So successful business people all live down south?

It's not only the South, And I never said All.

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Originally Posted by crockett

It's only the Right Wingers that tend to be trying to secede every time their guy loses. It will never happen so I'm not really worried about it and I was just giving a opinion on if they could be successful or not. IMO Texas as I said would be the only state that could be successful and that's only if they did it on their own and not as part of a "group".

Personally, I wish the Right would pull their heads out of their asses and regain some common sense, because it would be better for the country as a whole. Instead they just keep pushing to divide the country further.. so as George Bush said.. "Either you're with us or against us".

Given the two choices, I'm against them until they bring back some sanity to their little political party.

I wish the right and left would pull their heads out of their asses.

HelmutKohl · 11-12-2012, 09:35 AM

GOPers are now like little babies crying: "Mom, they took my candy!!!!! "

Time to accept reality!

2012 · 11-12-2012, 09:40 AM

EonBlue · 11-12-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I'm really scared of conservatives ever getting in the White House again. I've never been much for taking sides until seeing what's been taking place with the right in the last few years. It looks like there's a shift toward more progressive thinking and that's for the better. Bill Maher said on his program the other night "we can be Canada, except with nukes".

Bill Maher does realize that Canada is currently lead by a conservative government doesn't he?

Shifting to more "progressive" thinking in not necessarily a good thing. California is arguably the most progressive state in the US and it will likely be the first to collapse under all of it's own bloated weight bringing the rest of the country down with it. All of the so called progress will be lost when the economy ceases to function.

bronco67 · 11-12-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Bill Maher does realize that Canada is currently lead by a conservative government doesn't he?

Shifting to more "progressive" thinking in not necessarily a good thing. California is arguably the most progressive state in the US and it will likely be the first to collapse under all of it's own bloated weight bringing the rest of the country down with it. All of the so called progress will be lost when the economy ceases to function.

I was talking progressive more along social lines. I think a balance of both approaches is needed to for economic success.

Tom_PM · 11-12-2012, 09:47 AM

Progressive versus regressive is the new liberal versus conservative.
Cat's out of the bag on that.

EonBlue · 11-12-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Progressive versus regressive is the new liberal versus conservative.
Cat's out of the bag on that.

I think you will find a collapsed economy to be far more regressive than any conservative politician or policy could ever be.

Evil1 · 11-12-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

These assholes would rather destroy the country than have a black guy as president (And that is the crux of the situation, don't let anyone tell you different.) , Fucking sad!!!!!

Don't think it's so much that he's black as socialism is only popular in certain areas of the US and you know damn well if obama and a lot of democrats could pull it off they would take everyones income and just issue people an allowance in the name of "fairness"

Jman · 11-12-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

It would just be like Europe. It could work. Don't think it will happen, but it could work.

So if one state decides to go to war with another state, which side will the mighty US army take????

acrylix · 11-12-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

These assholes would rather destroy the country than have a black guy as president (And that is the crux of the situation, don't let anyone tell you different.) , Fucking sad!!!!!

Yeah, it's cause he's black. When these same tea-bagging assholes jumped on the "Cain Train" during the Republican primaries, it was only a clever ruse to hide the fact that they actually hate black folks!

crockett · 11-12-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jman

So if one state decides to go to war with another state, which side will the mighty US army take????

A state doesn't have that power. A state has no standing army outside of city/county police forces. They have no ability to wage war unless you mean some sort of militia movement.

blackmonsters · 11-12-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by acrylix

Yeah, it's cause he's black. When these same tea-bagging assholes jumped on the "Cain Train" during the Republican primaries, it was only a clever ruse to hide the fact that they actually hate black folks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokenism

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Tokenism is the policy or practice of making a perfunctory gesture toward the inclusion of members of minority groups.[1][2][3] This token effort is usually intended to create a false appearance of inclusiveness and deflect accusations of discrimination.[3] Typical examples include purposely hiring a non-white person in a mainly white occupation or a woman in a traditionally male occupation. Classically, token characters have some reduced capacity compared to the other characters and may have bland or inoffensive personalities so as to not be accused of stereotyping negative traits. Alternatively, their differences may be overemphasized or made "exotic" and glamorous.

You're welcome.

AdultEUhost · 11-12-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

500 Euro in what case - when you earn 10.000 Euro a month or more?

Above a 100k a year yes, but 500 euro is still a lot of money no?
Instead of spending it on healthcare I could also bought content from you

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

and you're sure that this is the fault of the EU and not previous governments spending more than they took in?

anyways - people easily blame the EU and totally forget that a huge part of our wealth and freedom today is a result of the EU

I am not saying it is all the fault of the EU because it is just way to complicated and thus not thru but I did change from a Pro EU into a Anti EU the last years.

I mean look at the recent budget of the EU, they over-spent like 6% and now demand each state is paying up. I believe the dutch said we should just take the 6% off next years budget.

I think the ideology of the EU was nice but seems to be unmanageable, at least with today's policies and treaties.

EonBlue · 11-12-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokenism

You're welcome.

So by that logic Obama is the Democrats token black person, Hillary is their token woman and Harry Reid is their token Mormon. How inclusive of them.

blackmonsters · 11-12-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

So by that logic Obama is the Democrats token black person, Hillary is their token woman and Harry Reid is their token Mormon. How inclusive of them.

Your statement would be true if the Democrats did not have tons of Blacks and women
in the political party from the top all they way down to delegates and vote organizers.

Herman Cain is the only brown dude at his rally.

EonBlue · 11-12-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Your statement would be true if the Democrats did not have tons of Blacks and women
in the political party from the top all they way down to delegates and vote organizers.

Herman Cain is the only brown dude at his rally.

Maybe that's because all of the blacks voting for Obama actually believe all of the Democrat BS that Republicans all hate black people. That and maybe black Democrats are racist and hate white people.

Matt 26z · 11-12-2012, 12:11 PM

I say dump the deep south. They are dead weight.

blackmonsters · 11-12-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Maybe that's because all of the blacks voting for Obama actually believe all of the Democrat BS that Republicans all hate black people. That and maybe black Democrats are racist and hate white people.

Well the history is that after the Democrats supported integration in the 1960's;
angry democrats left the party and became republican and began to run their
campaigns on anti-integration, anti-affirmative action and welfare-blame platforms.

Black people are not stupid enough to vote for that.

But call it what you want and enjoy your fantasy.

DWB · 11-12-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jman

So if one state decides to go to war with another state, which side will the mighty US army take????

If Germany and France go to war with each other, what side will England take?

DWB · 11-12-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

A state doesn't have that power. A state has no standing army outside of city/county police forces. They have no ability to wage war unless you mean some sort of militia movement.

I think he means if they secede and become their own countries, then went to war with each other.

EonBlue · 11-12-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Well the history is that after the Democrats supported integration in the 1960's;
angry democrats left the party and became republican and began to run their
campaigns on anti-integration, anti-affirmative action and welfare-blame platforms.

Black people are not stupid enough to vote for that.

But call it what you want and enjoy your fantasy.

Actually it was Democrats who tried to filibuster the civil rights act and more Democrats voted against it than did Republicans.

And that whole Dixiecrat thing is just more lies:

The Dixiecrat Myth

The Democrat Race Lie

National Black Republican Association

acrylix · 11-12-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokenism

You're welcome.

You just accused every white person who voted for Obama of "tokenism." Congratulations.

Nice try attempting to weasel out of that accusation based on higher melanin counts at rallies.

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Well the history is that after the Democrats supported integration in the 1960's;

Speaking of "history" (1861?1865)

Anyone who blindly votes for a politician based on his/her party's "history" is a fucking douche.

blackmonsters · 11-12-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by acrylix

Anyone who blindly votes for a politician based on his/her party's "history" is a fucking douche.

Let's make one thing perfectly clear, I did not vote for idiots with crazy ideas, fuck history.

acrylix · 11-12-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Let's make one thing perfectly clear, I did not vote for idiots with crazy ideas, fuck history.

Well ok then.

I can respect that.

Tom_PM · 11-12-2012, 01:19 PM

The economy has been in recovery for years, despite the doom and gloom mongers' seeming obsession with saying otherwise. Even the housing market is coming back. How near is the end? Are we Greece yet? lmao.. such bs.

Why · 11-12-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Americans (sorry, some Americans) shout from the rooftops about the wonder of democracy and then cry like babies when it doesn't go the way they want.

ain't that the fuckin' truth!

Major (Tom) · 11-12-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

It would just be like Europe. It could work. Don't think it will happen, but it could work.

it will never work. This is what caused the civil war
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Robbie · 11-12-2012, 01:28 PM

LOL.

NOBODY is going to be able to secede from the union. Last time that was tried...the Confederate States Of America was attacked and destroyed by the union.

Yes, states TECHNICALLY can leave the "union"...but let's face it, the federal govt. is the most powerful thing in the U.S. at the moment. And nobody is going to be allowed to leave the "union" under any circumstances EVER.

Roaches check in, but they don't check out. heh-heh

blackmonsters · 11-12-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by acrylix

Lincoln didn't give a shit about a slave.

The emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the rebelling states and each was
promised that they could keep slavery if they returned to the union.

That MoFo had no choice but to end slavery because no rebelling state complied
and rejoined to the union.

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The Proclamation applied in only ten states that were still in rebellion in 1863, and thus did not cover the nearly 500,000 slaves in the slave-holding border states (Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland or Delaware) which were Union states ? those slaves were freed by separate state and federal actions. The state of Tennessee had already mostly returned to Union control, so it was not named and was exempted. Virginia was named, but exemptions were specified for the 48 counties then in the process of forming the new state of West Virginia, and seven additional counties and two cities in the Union-controlled Tidewater region.[5] Also specifically exempted were New Orleans and 13 named parishes of Louisiana, all of which were also already mostly under Federal control at the time of the Proclamation. These exemptions left unemancipated an additional 300,000 slaves.[6]

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The Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 required individuals to return runaway slaves to their owners. During the war, Union generals such as Benjamin Butler declared that slaves in occupied areas were contraband of war and accordingly refused to return them.[22] ... ... ...
Some generals also declared the slaves under their jurisdiction to be free and were replaced when they refused to rescind such declarations.

Matt 26z · 11-12-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Actually it was Democrats who tried to filibuster the civil rights act and more Democrats voted against it than did Republicans.

Republicans were the liberal party for many decades.

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Originally Posted by acrylix

Speaking of "history" (1861?1865)

Anyone who blindly votes for a politician based on his/her party's "history" is a fucking douche.

He supported freeing the slaves so that they could be sent to build the Panama Canal. It would have been a boon for northern trade, but cripple the south's agriculture industry. This type of north vs south political maneuvering exists to this day.

blackmonsters · 11-12-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the rebelling states and each was
promised that they could keep slavery if they returned to the union.

Correction : On September 22, 1862, Lincoln issued a preliminary proclamation
and that is what I should have referred to instead of the final Emancipation Proclamation.

EonBlue · 11-12-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

The economy has been in recovery for years, despite the doom and gloom mongers' seeming obsession with saying otherwise. Even the housing market is coming back. How near is the end? Are we Greece yet? lmao.. such bs.

Not Greece yet. But that's just because there is a general feeling out there that the US is too big to fail. The reality is that the US is too broke to continue.

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/de...-trillion.html

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If you add up the total debt ? state, local, the works ? every man, woman, and child in this country owes 200 grand (which is rather more than the average Greek does). Every American family owes about three-quarters of a million bucks, or about the budget deficit of Lichtenstein, which has the highest GDP per capita in the world. Which means that HRH Prince Hans-Adam II can afford it rather more easily than Bud and Cindy at 27b Elm Street. In 2009, the Democrats became the first government in the history of the planet to establish annual trillion-dollar deficits as a permanent feature of life. Before the end of Obama's second term, the federal debt alone will hit $20 trillion. That ought to have been the central fact of this election ? that Americans are the brokest brokey-broke losers who ever lived, and it's time to do something about it.

[...]

In the course of his first term, Obama increased the federal debt by just shy of $6 trillion and, in return, grew the economy by $905 billion. So, as Lance Roberts at Street Talk Live pointed out, in order to generate every $1 of economic growth the United States had to borrow about $5.60. There's no one out there on the planet ? whether it's "the rich" or the Chinese ? who can afford to carry on bankrolling that rate of return.

Shotsie · 11-12-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Actually it was Democrats who tried to filibuster the civil rights act and more Democrats voted against it than did Republicans.

And that whole Dixiecrat thing is just more lies:

The Dixiecrat Myth

The Democrat Race Lie

National Black Republican Association

Are you insinuating that the Republicans were the force that championed civil rights in the mid-1960s? Or trying to suggest that the Republican Party has done a damn thing for the cause of civil rights other than to use it as a wedge issue since 1968 until the present day? Is that what you're doing?

Please go to google and type “Lyndon Johnson” followed by “Civil Rights”.

Then consult google by typing “Richard Nixon” and “Southern Strategy” in the same search.

Black folks know that history intimately. They have voted for the Democratic Party overwhelmingly - in the North and South both - for half a century based on that history. Or do you really think that you have some special, hidden insight into the truth, and 94 percent of African-Americans have been “tricked” into supporting the wrong political party?

EonBlue · 11-12-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

Are you insinuating that the Republicans were the force that championed civil rights in the mid-1960s? Or trying to suggest that the Republican Party has done a damn thing for the cause of civil rights other than to use it as a wedge issue since 1968 until the present day? Is that what you're doing?

No, I didn't insinuate that they championed it. I simply said that more Democrats opposed it than Republicans.

As for what Republicans have done regarding civil rights since then, there are some good examples on that link I posted above: http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/

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September 15, 1981
President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs

June 29, 1982
President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act

August 10, 1988
President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR

November 21, 1991
President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation

I'm not saying there aren't any racist Republicans. There are. Just like there are racist Democrats. Both white and black.

But, hey, if black people want to keep voting based on what Nixon did in the past, even if it isn't necessarily in their best interest in the present, then I guess that's their choice. Just seems a little ridiculous to not vote based on the more important issues of the day.

blackmonsters · 11-12-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

But, hey, if black people want to keep voting based on what Nixon did in the past, even if it isn't necessarily in their best interest in the present, then I guess that's their choice. Just seems a little ridiculous to not vote based on the more important issues of the day.

Accusing black people of being a little ridiculous and not voting on important issues
is not racist in anyway and anyone claiming so is completely racist.

directfiesta · 11-12-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Let them secede, most of those red states suck more money from the federal govt than they put in. They would be 3rd world countries within 5 years.

True .. They could setup chinese style sweatshops to manufacture the goods for Walmart

scottybuzz · 11-12-2012, 03:00 PM

there are people in london who want london to be an independent country

scottybuzz · 11-12-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

If Germany and France go to war with each other, what side will England take?

france.
this has been proven twice, wat is your point?

Shotsie · 11-12-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

No, I didn't insinuate that they championed it. I simply said that more Democrats opposed it than Republicans.

You do know that because of the way Congress works, the large Democratic majorities in both houses at that time mean that it was Democratic committee chairs and whips and majority leaders who were the shepherds of all of that legislation, acting on President Johnson’s direct instruction? They maneuvered it to the floor, they bartered the votes, they engineered the victory.

You do know that “Dixiecrats” were called that to distinguish them from the rest of the party and that these legislators would not exist as Democrats much beyond 1968? Lyndon Johnson repudiated the Dixiecrats, knowing it would cost his party power and votes for the longterm. He did so anyway because the views of the Dixiecrats were a plague upon the American future. Just like the Republican party of today.

You do know that every Republican politician of the ensuing half century with national ambitions has used Johnson’s triumph and the shadow of racial politics both as wedges to draw white votes and Southern states to their cause. You do know the name Lee Atwater? Karl Rove? Willie Horton? You’ve heard of welfare queens with Cadillacs?

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I'm not saying there aren't any racist Republicans. There are. Just like there are racist Democrats. Both white and black.

But, hey, if black people want to keep voting based on what Nixon did in the past, even if it isn't necessarily in their best interest in the present, then I guess that's their choice. Just seems a little ridiculous to not vote based on the more important issues of the day.

Are you being serious right now? Are you trying to tell us that the Republican party is responsive to anything but the aspirations of rich white people, and lunatic fringe evangelicals? Why in the fuck would black people vote for a political party that has an entire wing - the teabaggers - complicit in marrying the party to overtly paranoid and racist stances when it comes to such things as the birther bullshit? Why would they vote for the party that was caught red-handed using voter suppression tactics in African-American urban communities? Are you really trying to tell us that it is in their best interest to vote Republican? That it is in ANYONE'S best interest to vote Republican - women, gays, latinos, the middle and working class, etc. etc. Republican policy positions and rhetoric have succeeded in driving every minority and plurality in the electorate out of the GOP camp, that is what happened in this election in case you didn't follow it.

pornmasta · 11-12-2012, 03:36 PM

Wizzo · 11-12-2012, 03:41 PM

Up from 15 to 20...lol http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...190210006.html

DWB · 11-12-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

it will never work. This is what caused the civil war
ds

Valid point.

Mutt · 11-12-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Lincoln didn't give a shit about a slave.

The emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the rebelling states and each was
promised that they could keep slavery if they returned to the union.

That MoFo had no choice but to end slavery because no rebelling state complied
and rejoined to the union.

you're an ungrateful simpleton. Lincoln was against slavery, his first job as President was to save the Union and why he didn't abolish slavery everywhere - sorry if real life and history isn't a Disney movie. you're only right in that Lincoln put saving the country ahead of ending slavery. if he'd have lost the war there might still be slaves in the South.

here are Lincoln's personal thoughts

"I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free."

DWB · 11-12-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

france.
this has been proven twice, wat is your point?

It was a rhetorical question.

brassmonkey · 11-12-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Lincoln didn't give a shit about a slave.

The emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the rebelling states and each was
promised that they could keep slavery if they returned to the union.

That MoFo had no choice but to end slavery because no rebelling state complied
and rejoined to the union.

he kicked ass as a vampire slayer tho

baryl · 11-12-2012, 03:55 PM

I like the idea of Predator drones taking out rednecks in Mississippi.

scottybuzz · 11-12-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

It was a rhetorical question.

yes true,

i kind of guessed that, but i am stuck.

say two states did go against each other, which would USa support? hense why i didnt think your original point was sarcastic.

2MuchMark · 11-12-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow

As of Saturday November 10, 2012, 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.

States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.

scared, racist idiots.

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