Can you have a paysite with unlicensed content? - GoFuckYourself.com

Penn E. Less · 02-18-2003, 07:32 PM

Please don't

or

me for this question but I was asked this today and I didn't have an immediate answer to a question brought up in conversation today.

An old friend of mine has a collection of non-adult nostalgic cartoon's in a movie format. He currently has this online and he has a big bandwidth bill because of the many non-adult cartoon movies on his website. He asked me if he could turn his free site into a paysite in order to generate some sales to help offset the cost of his bandwidth bill.

Since he doesn't have the content licensed, I didn't know if he could do this or not. I'm leaning to "no" but I wanted to bring this question to you guys for input. His argument is that he wants to keep underage kids off his site since they are probably using up most of his bandwidth. He thinks that adults will pay to see the non-porno nostalgic cartoons. What should he do?

Thanks

Mr.Fiction · 02-18-2003, 07:33 PM

When you say "nostalgic", how old are you talking about?

Snake Doctor · 02-18-2003, 07:36 PM

Penn E. Less · 02-18-2003, 07:36 PM

Thanks for the reply. Although it's nostalgic, he *does* have alot of recent stuff on there as well. Incidentally, he has WWF movie clips on there as well. Alot of them. He thinks the kids are viewing alot of his WWF movie clips too.

benthompson · 02-18-2003, 07:41 PM

this is only my opinion but I don't think that he is allowed to do that... He can survive for a while until the content owner catchs him..

Gary · 02-18-2003, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penn E. Less
Thanks for the reply. Although it's nostalgic, he *does* have alot of recent stuff on there as well. Incidentally, he has WWF movie clips on there as well. Alot of them. He thinks the kids are viewing alot of his WWF movie clips too.

WWF will kick his ass and he wont be the first one.

vapewiz · 02-18-2003, 07:47 PM

The answer is simple NO!

Also you can let him know the WWE/WWF is just like playboy when it comes to copyright infringment from what i've heard.

Also ask him if i steal his home if it will be ok that i rent rooms to make some money from having to keep the electricity and water on in his house.

UnseenWorld · 02-18-2003, 08:33 PM

The way you word your question, it sounds like you (or your friend) think it's okay to use copyrighted material as long as the site is free. Where in the world did you (or your friend) get such a hare-brained idea? The question isn't one of profit, it's one of ownership and the privileges of ownership. In some ways, offering the stuff free is even worse, since other people considering pay to use it will then have to compete against someone who's putting it out free of charge. Not a fair competition situation at all. At any rate, fee vs. pay misses the entire point: If it belongs to someone, you or your friend need to get permission from that party (though I wonder if your "friend" is like the "friend" a doctor asks questions for, when all along he's asking for himself).

twistyneck · 02-18-2003, 10:15 PM

Sure you can. Don't listen to the haters, they just want less competition. These companies crave publicity so while they might not "officially" like it, they won't bother you. I'd consider using a bunch of Girls Gone Wild videos too, just give them a link so they won't have anything to complain about.

gothweb · 02-18-2003, 10:31 PM

What he is doing now is theft. Charging for it would be even more trouble. Copyright is copyright.

QualityMpegs · 02-18-2003, 11:35 PM

Rochard · 02-18-2003, 11:39 PM

Sure you have a paysite with unlicensed content.

You can also spend a lot time in prision. BEEN FUCKED IN THE ASS RECENTLY?

psyko514 · 02-18-2003, 11:41 PM

Hahahahaha... this is hilarious.
Threads like this dictate who not to do business with.

If you have to ask that question, you shouldn't be making websites.

What your friend is doing is the equivalent of ripping a DVD and selling it on your site. Or giving it away for free.

CrystalClear · 02-19-2003, 08:06 AM

You do need any unlicensed content when there are content providers with sooooo cheap content - see http://www.xxxtreams.com! :-)

<IMX> · 02-19-2003, 08:42 AM

Can you have a paysite with unlicensed content?

No.

unlicensed content

Why is this a question?

02-18-2003, 07:32 PM	#1
Penn E. Less Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 367	Can you have a paysite with unlicensed content? Please don't or or or me for this question but I was asked this today and I didn't have an immediate answer to a question brought up in conversation today. An old friend of mine has a collection of non-adult nostalgic cartoon's in a movie format. He currently has this online and he has a big bandwidth bill because of the many non-adult cartoon movies on his website. He asked me if he could turn his free site into a paysite in order to generate some sales to help offset the cost of his bandwidth bill. Since he doesn't have the content licensed, I didn't know if he could do this or not. I'm leaning to "no" but I wanted to bring this question to you guys for input. His argument is that he wants to keep underage kids off his site since they are probably using up most of his bandwidth. He thinks that adults will pay to see the non-porno nostalgic cartoons. What should he do? Thanks __________________ <br><a href="http://marketing.ucumseeme.com/dat.shtml"><img src="http://marketing.UCumSeeMe.com/images/ucsmm2_120x60.jpg"></a><br> Click the button above!<br> ICQ# 169177761

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Penn E. Less Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 367	Thanks for the reply. Although it's nostalgic, he does have alot of recent stuff on there as well. Incidentally, he has WWF movie clips on there as well. Alot of them. He thinks the kids are viewing alot of his WWF movie clips too. __________________ <br><a href="http://marketing.ucumseeme.com/dat.shtml"><img src="http://marketing.UCumSeeMe.com/images/ucsmm2_120x60.jpg"></a><br> Click the button above!<br> ICQ# 169177761

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UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	The way you word your question, it sounds like you (or your friend) think it's okay to use copyrighted material as long as the site is free. Where in the world did you (or your friend) get such a hare-brained idea? The question isn't one of profit, it's one of ownership and the privileges of ownership. In some ways, offering the stuff free is even worse, since other people considering pay to use it will then have to compete against someone who's putting it out free of charge. Not a fair competition situation at all. At any rate, fee vs. pay misses the entire point: If it belongs to someone, you or your friend need to get permission from that party (though I wonder if your "friend" is like the "friend" a doctor asks questions for, when all along he's asking for himself). __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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vapewiz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,530	The answer is simple NO! Also you can let him know the WWE/WWF is just like playboy when it comes to copyright infringment from what i've heard. Also ask him if i steal his home if it will be ok that i rent rooms to make some money from having to keep the electricity and water on in his house.

02-18-2003, 10:15 PM	#9
twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	Sure you can. Don't listen to the haters, they just want less competition. These companies crave publicity so while they might not "officially" like it, they won't bother you. I'd consider using a bunch of Girls Gone Wild videos too, just give them a link so they won't have anything to complain about.

02-18-2003, 10:31 PM	#10
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