Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251759)

No, I am calling BS because nothing has changed for the handful of doctors I know socially, nothing has changed for people I know with conventional health insurance and I have no complaints as someone in the system.

But yeah, I will listen to some guy on a message board that owns a small program and has "insider information."

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251765)

You may want to go back and talk to the Doctor friends of yours that own their own practice.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251768)

I do all of the time. My best friend is engaged to one.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251770)

Here is a simple one to start with, ask if they still get clocks etc. from drug reps.

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 19251771)

Anyone who votes for Obama makes less than $250k a year.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251773)

I will admit, doctors are afraid of some thing. That reimbursements will go down a bit and the number of patients they have to see will go up. What you don't hear them telling people is that hiring a PA will allow them to do that without a real extra workload on them and that the money thing will even out with the PA(s).

The upside to that is mostly everybody will be insured. Since there are doctors left that believe in the oath they took, non-biased ones see this as a good thing.

Just like PAs saved everybody in Vietnam they will do the same thing here.

That doesn't fit in the talking points though.

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 19251771)

Anyone who votes for Obama makes less than $250k a year.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251782)

Reimbursements have already gone down. And yes there will be many more patients to see, and in order for doctors to see them their quality of care will go way down, people will be moved in one door and out the other like cattle, just to try to make up for the loss.

I took a girl to a "diet doctor" to get some weight loss pills. The doctor never even seen her the second visit. the first one he talked to her for about 1 minute. The PA is the one who took care of everything everything. They never even checked blood work to make sure her body was in good enough shape to handle the pills. Luckily "we know one" and had this checked first. Is this really the type of care we want from our personal doctors?

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251785)

There have always been quacks. It is not a new phenomenon.

Anything else?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19251783)

Same is true for the majority of Romney voters.

98% of US workers make less than $250K p/year.

97% of US businesses make less than $250K p/year.

If Romney needs more than 2% of the vote, he'll have to pull from that same remaining 98%.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251791)

Nice way to move around answering the question. I was just giving the scenario based on your post.


If that is the Medical attention your happy with then cool :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251796)

Is that why Romney is leading in the polls? because of that 2% voting for him.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251796)

Is that why Romney is leading in the polls? because of that 2% voting for him.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251799)

Oh btw the PA by law is allowed to take care of everything. They just have to be supervised by a doctor. State laws very but in many they do not even have to be in the same office.

We need to rely more on PAs and they will be the solution just like they were in Vietnam.

Far too many doctors are tied up with patients they do not need to see.

A multi-doctor practice should be ran just like a ER where you are triaged and that determines who you see.

Doctor offices are far from efficient. Most are still using paper charts.

Their own inefficiency are why they are falling behind and consolidators come in and buy them and bring them up to modern standards.

Surely you aren't against that...its just the free market doing its thing.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19251803)

I don't even know what to say to that.

All I said is that both candidates require votes from the majority 98% in order to win.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251649)

Oh but you see, he won't really. When he says stuff like that he is lying, but when he actually lies he's not really lying.

I know, doesn't make sense to me either, but it seems to make sense to his supporters. They probably have some kind of secret language to know what lies are real and what lies are fake.

One thing for sure though, Mormons are the least fanatical about pornography so we have nothing to worry about. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251805)

That flew right over your head... but since you went there anyway, Scott Rasmussen says that with Romney's two point lead in the polls "Either way, it remains too close to call."

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19251810)

Thats some convoluted logic you got there!
what lies are real = untruths
what lies are fake = truth

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251815)

Alright, its Sunday, I have shit to do that I have been procrastinating on all day so might as well do it before I go to bed.

It was nice sparing with you Mr. Hammer.

Until next time...

(Great now I have MC Hammer playing in my head)

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251816)

Don't worry I don't really believe in the polls. I nor anyone I know has been contacted by any of them.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251384)

Go fuck yourselves!

I'm voting for Romney. Feel free to delete any links etc. you have for any of my websites.

:thumbsup

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251384)

Go fuck yourselves!

I'm voting for Romney. Feel free to delete any links etc. you have for any of my websites.

:thumbsup

Originally Posted by dj1 (Post 19251840)

I am confused....
your stance will do nothing in changing the minds of anybody..or change the outcome of the election
all your stance has done is to get liberals to not promote your sites
WELL DONE!!! brilliant business decision:thumbsup

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19251843)

dj1, it was a fun thread, but I think he was just kidding. :)

edit: ok, maybe not. lol

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251816)

Don't worry I don't really believe in the polls. I nor anyone I know has been contacted by any of them.

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19251456)

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19251581)

And if I had an employee that guaranteed he would reduce his departments budget by %50 in four years and he actually raised it.. He would be released.

(Reuters) - One month after taking office, President Barack Obama summoned the nation's top lawmakers and budget experts to the White House for a summit to figure out how to tame huge federal deficits.

Standing at a podium in the elegant East Room, the Democratic president wasted no time in reminding his audience, which included Republican congressional leaders, that he had just inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit in the midst of "an economic crisis unlike any we have seen in generations."

He gave a finger-waving talk on fiscal responsibility and boldly pledged to halve the deficit in four years.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251842)

Was just in one of those moods... It's annoying seeing so many fake bullshit anti Romney threads. I doubt anyone will pull any links. Actually this has been a very popular thread and I've got new affiliate sign-ups today. :)