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Brujah 10-14-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 19251534)
PBS can sell commercials. Not funding PBS with tax money is not getting rid of PBS. PBS can fund itself.

Ah I see. You meant "get rid of PBS" was twisting his words. Right, he wants to stop funding PBS.

"meaning federal funding via CPB accounted for about 12% of PBS 2010 annual revenues." - $71 million

So it does look like PBS could find ways to fund itself and stay afloat, based on the portion of federal funds it actually receives.

I'll just repeat what Neil de Grasse Tyson said about it to make the point I tried to make with Minte earlier.

"Cutting PBS support (0.012% of budget) to help balance the Federal budget is like deleting text files to make room on your 500Gig hard drive"

I think people, voters, that aren't already all up in the Republican party's ass, just see someone focus on that 0.012% and know immediately they have no real plan. These are just talking points to throw out for bobbing heads.

epitome 10-14-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251543)
The point is big or small, things need to change to get this country out of debt. 1,000 small things add up to being a lot. ask program owners and affiliates that have many websites, one may only make a couple thousand a month but when you add them all together they are making good money.

So if he wants to get the country out of debt he will be raising taxes and cutting defense spending, right? I don't recall mentioning that but he did take his time during a nationally televised debate to talk about $100 million to PBS.

Then again talking about that probably prevented him from telling a 28th lie.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19251562)
Ah I see. You meant "get rid of PBS" was twisting his words. Right, he wants to stop funding PBS.

"meaning federal funding via CPB accounted for about 12% of PBS 2010 annual revenues." - $71 million

So it does look like PBS could find ways to fund itself and stay afloat, based on the portion of federal funds it actually receives.

I'll just repeat what Neil de Grasse Tyson said about it to make the point I tried to make with Minte earlier.

"Cutting PBS support (0.012% of budget) to help balance the Federal budget is like deleting text files to make room on your 500Gig hard drive"

I think people, voters, that aren't already all up in the Republican party's ass, just see someone focus on that 0.012% and know immediately they have no real plan. These are just talking points to throw out for bobbing heads.

Please see post #39.... :disgust

Brujah 10-14-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 19251569)
Please see post #39.... :disgust

If you're in an interview for a job, and your employer is asking you how you plan to save money are you going to throw out a savings of 0.012% as an example? Good luck getting hired. Come back when you've got a real plan, with real savings.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=epitome;19251564]So if he wants to get the country out of debt he will be raising taxes and cutting defense spending, right? QUOTE]

Nooooooooooooooooooo...
Did you fucking democrats even watch the debate? :disgust

brassmonkey 10-14-2012 05:12 PM

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Minte 10-14-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19251572)
If you're in an interview for a job, and your employer is asking you how you plan to save money are you going to throw out a savings of 0.012% as an example? Good luck getting hired. Come back when you've got a real plan, with real savings.

And if I had an employee that guaranteed he would reduce his departments budget by %50 in four years and he actually raised it.. He would be released.

(Reuters) - One month after taking office, President Barack Obama summoned the nation's top lawmakers and budget experts to the White House for a summit to figure out how to tame huge federal deficits.

Standing at a podium in the elegant East Room, the Democratic president wasted no time in reminding his audience, which included Republican congressional leaders, that he had just inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit in the midst of "an economic crisis unlike any we have seen in generations."

He gave a finger-waving talk on fiscal responsibility and boldly pledged to halve the deficit in four years.

Brujah 10-14-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19251581)
And if I had an employee that guaranteed he would reduce his departments budget by %50 in four years and he actually raised it.. He would be released.

So you'll be voting for Gary Johnson then? :winkwink:

Brujah 10-14-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19251522)
Do any of those 1000s of places online, show specifically where the 20% tax cuts would come from, and how the tax increases on the wealthy will be offset so that they don't actually end up paying more?

Nope. Guess not.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19251572)
If you're in an interview for a job, and your employer is asking you how you plan to save money are you going to throw out a savings of 0.012% as an example? Good luck getting hired. Come back when you've got a real plan, with real savings.

I didn't hear Mr Obama bring any budged cutting ideas to this interview!

Brujah 10-14-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 19251589)
I didn't hear Mr Obama bring any budged cutting ideas to this interview!

He's already signed defense budget cuts, about half a trillion dollars. That's a bit more than 0.012%.

Brujah 10-14-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 19251595)
People still debating over Obama and Romney without seeing the entire thing as a giant fraud :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Don't forget Gary Johnson. The conversation mentions him too.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19251593)
He's already signed defense budget cuts, about half a trillion dollars. That's a bit more than 0.012%.

Hasn't happened and isn't likely to.

directfiesta 10-14-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19251519)
The republican fiscal plan is posted at 1000's of places online. The cornerstone is not PBS or Planned Parenthood funding. They are just a few that were quoteworthy.

Still not a single link of those " 1000 of places online " ....

Probably will be done with the help of this guy :
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3...opperfield.jpg

PS: Vote for Romney, please .. nothing better can happen for the rest of the world ...

Brujah 10-14-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 19251598)
Hasn't happened and isn't likely to.

Maybe not all, but it will cut billions and reinvest others into better (defense) programs.

Minte 10-14-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19251588)
Nope. Guess not.

I know you are capable of doing your own research.

I will give you a hint, the links have his name in it.

BlackCrayon 10-14-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251543)
The point is big or small, things need to change to get this country out of debt. 1,000 small things add up to being a lot. ask program owners and affiliates that have many websites, one may only make a couple thousand a month but when you add them all together they are making good money.

you're a naive fool if you think anything is going to change. big government and big business go hand in hand and romney or obama will just do like every other politician in the last 30 years, serve their friends and donor interests.

epitome 10-14-2012 05:37 PM

Ranking Republicans have even said that if Obama wins it is pretty much a mandate to raise taxes on high income earners.

Reading between the lines that essentially says "yeah, we know it needs to be done but if people are dumb enough to elect Romney we won't have to do it."

Brujah 10-14-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19251606)
I know you are capable of doing your own research.

I will give you a hint, the links have his name in it.

It was a Yes or No question.

BlackCrayon 10-14-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19251581)
And if I had an employee that guaranteed he would reduce his departments budget by %50 in four years and he actually raised it.. He would be released.

(Reuters) - One month after taking office, President Barack Obama summoned the nation's top lawmakers and budget experts to the White House for a summit to figure out how to tame huge federal deficits.

Standing at a podium in the elegant East Room, the Democratic president wasted no time in reminding his audience, which included Republican congressional leaders, that he had just inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit in the midst of "an economic crisis unlike any we have seen in generations."

He gave a finger-waving talk on fiscal responsibility and boldly pledged to halve the deficit in four years.

Why do you think romney or the gop will be any different? they all break their promises and none reduce government significantly. its just the same cycle over and over with different sponsors.

Sly 10-14-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251610)
Ranking Republicans have even said that if Obama wins it is pretty much a mandate to raise taxes on high income earners.

Reading between the lines that essentially says "yeah, we know it needs to be done but if people are dumb enough to elect Romney we won't have to do it."

We must have taken different reading comprehension classes.

epitome 10-14-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19251615)
We must have taken different reading comprehension classes.

Oh so if he wins a second time suddenly the Republicans must work with him? When he is a lame duck? :1orglaugh

No, they know what needs to be done.

They were not discussing if the Democrats get control of Congress, just what it means if Obama wins.

They know it needs to be done, will go along with it and then blame Obama. They will suddenly cooperate because they will have an excuse to play along (along with spending cuts).

icymelon 10-14-2012 05:55 PM

i dont have to pull your links. Romney will do it for me when he gets elected.

epitome 10-14-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 19251635)
i dont have to pull your links. Romney will do it for me when he gets elected.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

He will probably first go after teen sites. Maybe Ed will get to meet his hero at the DOJ press conference?

brassmonkey 10-14-2012 06:02 PM

yo Ed google Mitt Romney vows to ban pornography :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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epitome 10-14-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19251644)
yo Ed google Mitt Romney vows to ban pornography :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh but you see, he won't really. When he says stuff like that he is lying, but when he actually lies he's not really lying.

I know, doesn't make sense to me either, but it seems to make sense to his supporters. They probably have some kind of secret language to know what lies are real and what lies are fake.

One thing for sure though, Mormons are the least fanatical about pornography so we have nothing to worry about. :1orglaugh

SmutHammer 10-14-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 19251635)
i dont have to pull your links. Romney will do it for me when he gets elected.

Porn isn't my big worry, What Obama has done to the medical field has fucked us much more...

Redrob 10-14-2012 07:39 PM

Get ready for the next big fucking when the bond bubble breaks. Interest rates have to go back up and governments are going to be holding the bag.

Bankers will skate clear again.... and, they are banking on Rmoney to give them the pass.

BFT3K 10-14-2012 07:40 PM

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epitome 10-14-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251714)
Porn isn't my big worry, What Obama has done to the medical field has fucked us much more...

Real examples, please.

SmutHammer 10-14-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251725)
Real examples, please.

Have posted it all on here many times...

epitome 10-14-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251728)
Have posted it all on here many times...

How about raising taxes, yet limiting testing, and making it where insurance companies pay less for the tests you are still able to do. Let's not forget that they can now tell you what doctor you are allowed to see or not, and where to pick up your prescriptions at. Drug reps are also becoming extinct under Obama's presidency.

As an early adopter of ObamaCare you are wrong on all counts. I can go to any doctor, going out of network just means separate deductible and 20% coinsurance, just like a PPO. I have to get four routine tests every six months that cost about $350 anywhere and I would have 20% coinsurance on them so I just go to the super cheap lab I found ran by a doctor that I love where I pay $75. It is a little more expensive than if I go through my insurance but I like it and am thankful he was there when I did not have insurance.

Besides listening to talking points ... or regurgitating them ... how about getting them from someone actually in the system?

Edit: oh yeah so far CVS, Walgreens, Albertsons and Publix all accept my ObamaCare prescription insurance where I pay $4 for generics after an annual $250 deductible.

epitome 10-14-2012 07:57 PM

Well I guess one way of not getting called out for being wrong is editing your post where you are wrong. Luckily I quoted it before that happened.

SmutHammer 10-14-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251730)
As an early adopter of ObamaCare you are wrong on all counts. I can go to any doctor, going out of network just means separate deductible and 20% coinsurance, just like a PPO. I have to get four routine tests every six months that cost about $350 anywhere and I would have 20% coinsurance on them so I just go to the super cheap lab I found ran by a doctor that I love where I pay $75. It is a little more expensive than if I go through my insurance but I like it and am thankful he was there when I did not have insurance.

Besides listening to talking points ... or regurgitating them ... how about getting them from someone actually in the system?

Not true, this has just started going into effect in the last couple of months. and is not from "Obama care" All insurance companies have not started doing it yet.

epitome 10-14-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251741)
Not true, this has just started going into effect in the last couple of months. and is not from "Obama care" All insurance companies have not started doing it yet.

So what is happening then is insurance companies are fucking with people to steer public opinion. Whose fault is that? Maybe its all of the Republican screaming about death panels and things even though every insurance company has always decided what they will cover.

Edit: the government currently manages my perfectly good policy. It is ran by the same people who administer federal health benefits. Since insurance companies can't figure it out maybe it needs to be government run. Works fine for millions.

SmutHammer 10-14-2012 08:02 PM

Things have dramatically changed in the last 2 years. and what makes you think this is not inside info? Do you really think that would be my main concern if it was just because I heard someone talking about it?

Edit: maybe I edited the post because I felt it was something I decided against posting on gfy.

Thank you for taking that away from me...

BFT3K 10-14-2012 08:04 PM

Don't forget one of the reasons how we REALLY got here...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=oSAzYWmsiwI

epitome 10-14-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251746)
Things have dramatically changed in the last 2 years. and what makes you think this is not inside info? Do you really think that would be my main concern if it was just because I heard someone talking about it?

OK JohnnyClips get out of here with your stupid shit.

SmutHammer 10-14-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19251749)
OK JohnnyClips get out of here with your stupid shit.

Of course, because you actually have no inside knowledge your going to result to name calling... :Oh crap

epitome 10-14-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19251756)
Of course, because you actually have no inside knowledge your going to result to name calling... :Oh crap

No, I am calling BS because nothing has changed for the handful of doctors I know socially, nothing has changed for people I know with conventional health insurance and I have no complaints as someone in the system.

But yeah, I will listen to some guy on a message board that owns a small program and has "insider information."


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