Am I the only one who finds this annoying? JFK/Fubarwebmasters - GoFuckYourself.com

Konda · 10-05-2012, 02:03 AM

Example:
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galleries.php?id=1886
12 nearly identical pictures of the same two women

Why not just select the best 1 or 2 photos instead of adding them all?

Or is it because sponsors are paying per picture? In that case you are ripping off your sponsors.

Konda · 10-05-2012, 02:04 AM

PS. no disrespect, I like the photos and appreciate the fact you cover all these shows. Just annoying having to browse trough tons of nearly identical pictures, I just don't see the point.

Roald · 10-05-2012, 02:15 AM

I agree ;)

kane · 10-05-2012, 02:18 AM

While I haven't been to many shows the ones I have been to have been sausage fests so I imagine if women show up they are going to get their picture taken a lot of times.

the Shemp · 10-05-2012, 02:23 AM

thats not common with JFKs pix...probably had a ton of pix to setup and some near duplicates got missed..

JFK · 10-05-2012, 02:55 AM

OK , the sponsors are NOT paying per picture, so it's not about that at all. I will take a sequence of shots, some of them nearly identical yes, if I feel they are all good, let the subject or the viewer decide which one they like best. It's like publishing a contact sheet from the film days.

Also sometimes people make gifs out of them. Actually I have cut down on the # of sequential shots. When editing them if the shot is decent enough, I will leave it up, like I say, let the viewer decide which one they like best.

Sorry to have annoyed some of you, I will do the best to improve the situation in future events.

TurboAngel · 10-05-2012, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Let me get this straight? JFK flies around the world on his dime to all of this industries events to snap pictures of the people/players and post them on his site for you to enjoy, free. Then your clown ass gets annoyed because some of them look like duplicates?

OCD and narcissism, much?

You hit that nail on the head!

NALEM · 10-05-2012, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

Example:
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galleries.php?id=1886
12 nearly identical pictures of the same two women
Why not just select the best 1 or 2 photos instead of adding them all?

Or is it because sponsors are paying per picture? In that case you are ripping off your sponsors.

Konda it happens to be his way of doing things. To his credit he is improving.
Based on what we know, sponsors are paying a fixed price for being "branded" on the actual photos published.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

While I haven't been to many shows the ones I have been to have been sausage fests so I imagine if women show up they are going to get their picture taken a lot of times.

Kane there is difference between capturing the same subject in many different situations, versus shooting the same person 3-6-9 times in the same scene, and posting most or all of them online.

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

thats not common with JFKs pix...probably had a ton of pix to setup and some near duplicates got missed..

theShemp, on the contrary. Look back at the archives from the past.

Brujah · 10-05-2012, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Sorry to have annoyed some of you, I will do the best to improve the situation in future events.

Don't let it happen again.

Roald · 10-05-2012, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Let me get this straight? JFK flies around the world on his dime to all of this industries events to snap pictures of the people/players and post them on his site for you to enjoy, free. Then your clown ass gets annoyed because some of them look like duplicates?

OCD and narcissism, much?

For Free? On his dime?

It annoys me yes to go through them, however since when are you not allowed to voice an opinion anymore? Don't be an idiot. I'm sure Julius can handle it perfectly fine

Relentless · 10-05-2012, 06:00 AM

I like seeing all of them, but I'd love to have a like function that let people like pics and move the best ones to the top based on how many likes they get.
That would also solve any near dupe issues.

Keep up the good work JFK

Horatio Caine · 10-05-2012, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Let me get this straight? JFK flies around the world on his dime to all of this industries events to snap pictures of the people/players and post them on his site for you to enjoy, free. Then your clown ass gets annoyed because some of them look like duplicates?

OCD and narcissism, much?

He pays for all of his travels?

Jman · 10-05-2012, 06:42 AM

Some people let the most simlpest and little things annoy them...

MaDalton · 10-05-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Also, who the fuck are you calling me an idiot? I am confused. You Euro's come in an American adult biz forum that caters to the vast majority of American traffic and sales as we tolerate you.

in case you didnt notice - it might be a US registered company that owns GFY but all the owners are Euro's...

so it's rather us who tolerate you spewing your Euro hate here

Stephen · 10-05-2012, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

It's like publishing a contact sheet from the film days.

Ahhh, the good old days. I wonder how many kids here ever saw a contact sheet?

You're making me feel old, Julius

RazorSharpe · 10-05-2012, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Is his message/suggestion worded like an opinion? Did he wright, "in my opinion" etc.? No. He worded it like as if he was paying for a service and started a thread about his personal annoyance he's getting for free.

Also, who the fuck are you calling me an idiot? I am confused. You Euro's come in an American adult biz forum that caters to the vast majority of American traffic and sales as we tolerate you.

Due to you feeling so comfortable, here's a straight question? Have you ever paid American sales tax to the American government? I mean you come in here correcting people/me but expect to take traffic/sales from our primarily American market place as we pay taxes on it and you don't?

So do you make any significant donations to American charities? Or do you just take our traffic and American potential customers and pocket the profits we'd have to pay taxes on?

Worded like an opinion? Not sure what you mean because an opinion is a point of view and that is exactly what the original poster put across ... HIS point of view. As for the rest of your rant ... LOL

RazorSharpe · 10-05-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

in case you didnt notice - it might be a US registered company that owns GFY but all the owners are Euro's...

so it's rather us who tolerate you spewing your Euro hate here

Shut up!!! You can't have an opinion because you don't pay american taxes!!!

Brujah · 10-05-2012, 06:48 AM

Keep it up Jesus, and we can put you back on the cross again buddy.

Jman · 10-05-2012, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Please, you have no idea what I am about to do....

Just change the damn water into wine already!!!

WarChild · 10-05-2012, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Is his message/suggestion worded like an opinion? Did he wright, "in my opinion" etc.? No. He worded it like as if he was paying for a service and started a thread about his personal annoyance he's getting for free.

Also, who the fuck are you calling me an idiot? I am confused. You Euro's come in an American adult biz forum that caters to the vast majority of American traffic and sales as we tolerate you.

Due to you feeling so comfortable, here's a straight question? Have you ever paid American sales tax to the American government? I mean you come in here correcting people/me but expect to take traffic/sales from our primarily American market place as we pay taxes on it and you don't?

So do you make any significant donations to American charities? Or do you just take our traffic and American potential customers and pocket the profits we'd have to pay taxes on?

You are an idiot and based on threats I've seen you make and never follow through on, a toothless one at that.

spazlabz · 10-05-2012, 07:00 AM

JFK does an admirable job and I am sure he has ran into the 'can't please all of the people all of the time' scenario plenty of times. I enjoy viewing his images of shows I've never attended to get to see the people I work with in the industry.

I did like Relentless's idea though, that would be a cool feature

WarChild · 10-05-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

fuck off and get attention elsewhere midget.

Awww it's okay little princess, dry those crying eyes. I sure somebody somewhere thinks you're a big man. It's just not here.

Makaveli · 10-05-2012, 07:03 AM

Don't diss one of the bro's! Thats a no-no....

Tom_PM · 10-05-2012, 07:06 AM

Life is full of little annoyances.
And boobs.. lotsa boobs.

Spunky · 10-05-2012, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Shut up!!! You can't have an opinion because you don't pay american taxes!!!

Next he will be ragging on Canadians

MaDalton · 10-05-2012, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Shut up!!! You can't have an opinion because you don't pay american taxes!!!

MaDalton · 10-05-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

what you can't answer a simple question? Have you ever paid into the American tax system or given to an American charity?

i have no idea what you are trying to tell me with that - but no, not that i remember. why should I?

but i am sure my american clients pay lots of taxes because of our work

but have you eventually given to greek charities? they would need it and you would make Theo and Panos very happy with that

oh, and btw, there might be less big porn companies in american hands than you think

Kenny B! · 10-05-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

The majority of billable market share is American. So I'll ask you? - Have you ever paid into our tax system or charities?

For Visa and Master Card perhaps, there's a huge market outside the USA. Don't be so closed minded about it, you'd be amazed what people are making through alternate billing methods elsewhere in the world.

Before you comment on who I pay taxes to... I'm Canadian, I pay taxes here yet the IRS gets a nice chunk of change from me every year, I pay plenty in property taxes in the US.

Either way JFK must delete a shit ton of pics because that flash goes off non stop at the shows!

Slappin Fish · 10-05-2012, 08:23 AM

Having an opinion about JFK's duplicates. paying into the American tax system. Errr....am I missing something or is Jesus H Christ just trolling?

MaDalton · 10-05-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I honestly don't know if you're stupid or what? You know, the San Fernando Valley is just full of European porn companies. So most of your clients are Americans as you and them live from American traffic, but you, who makes the bulk of his money from the US also by proxy is too cheap to give to any American charity as a form of gratitude? - Did I get that right, it's a no?

nah, i rather give to charities in my home country

but if it makes you happy: I have donated a couple of times to GFY members in need

but i also think you're a nutcase

Struggle4Bucks · 10-05-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

The majority of billable market share is American. So I'll ask you? - Have you ever paid into our tax system or charities?

And when an American owned website sells a membership in Germany... does he pay tax in Germany? Nah... don`t think so...

DeanCapture · 10-05-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Sorry to have annoyed some of you, I will do the best to improve the situation in future events.

Nothing a little Photoshop can't fix

MaDalton · 10-05-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

well, if you think I am a nutcase now, just wait when you solicited Americans in this forum for one of your promotions. I'll show them you have no problems making money from us, but too cheap to even donate to an American charity. Hell, consider me battshit crazy if it's easier for you because you'll need to do something.

have fun - stalking me makes you surely look better.

JFK · 10-05-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Nothing a little Photoshop can't fix

Thanks Dean, for that professional opinion, Respect

PR_Glen · 10-05-2012, 09:41 AM

jhc has to be on the paint chips for real... what the fuck are you talking about??

how the hell is this an american board?

Bugbee · 10-05-2012, 09:44 AM

this thread is a fucking train wreck, moving on!!

baddog · 10-05-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I am not closed minded as this is NOT primarily a European or even a Canadian adult forum. In short, I am well aware of non-US traffic as this is NOT a non-US forum.

As far as you paying taxes or charities, good. But you never come in here and talk a bunch of shit to Americans or about or market place now do you?

Marcus, Marcus, Marcus.

2MuchMark · 10-05-2012, 09:45 AM

/ban JFK!

MaDalton · 10-05-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Stalking you? Hell, you're the one calling me crazy and as always, replying to whatever I write first. Chicks usually do that in my life as some would recognize that as a gift, but then again, you're the one who habitually vacations in Thailand.

i sure do love Thailand - but i dont pay taxes there either

JFK · 10-05-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

/ban JFK!

hang him by the nuts, till he squeals for mercy I say

Konda · 10-05-2012, 02:03 PM

Ok this is not where I expected this thread to turn into lol

I was just curious about the motive behind it, because in my opinion it's very user unfriendly. I like to check the pictures, and I really appreciate the job Julius does, but many times I watch a few pictures and then can't be bothered anymore because I have to browse trough all the 'duplicate' pics.

This has actually been on my mind for many many years, but as you guys say, why complain about something that is free, so I never posted about it. But I really think that not having all these duplicate pictures makes the site a lot more user friendly and makes people stay longer on the site and eventually watch more pictures.

As others have pointed out it's not as 'bad' as it used to be anymore. But when I was browsing the mentioned gallery I just really wondered why there are 12 nearly identical pictures on 1 page of the same 2 girls. I was just really curious about the motive. And yes, it does annoy me and I was just curious if it was just me or if others felt the same. And I feel I have the right to ask and express my opinion.

DeanCapture · 10-05-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Konda

I was just curious about the motive behind it, because in my opinion it's very user unfriendly.

I agree - this is such a crime. I mean, of all the things in the world to get pissed about, this is right at the top of my list

Konda · 10-05-2012, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Let me get this straight? JFK flies around the world on his dime to all of this industries events to snap pictures of the people/players and post them on his site for you to enjoy, free. Then your clown ass gets annoyed because some of them look like duplicates?

OCD and narcissism, much?

On his Dime? It's his job, he makes money from it.

And it's not 'some', if it was just one or two it would be fine, but sometimes it's like 5 or even 10+ and in the past it was many times like 20+

Nothing to do with OCD or narcissism, it's just user unfriendly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Is his message/suggestion worded like an opinion? Did he wright, "in my opinion" etc.? No. He worded it like as if he was paying for a service and started a thread about his personal annoyance he's getting for free.

I was clearly expressing my opinion and I just wondered if others find it annoying to.

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I am confused. You Euro's come in an American adult biz forum that caters to the vast majority of American traffic and sales as we tolerate you.

Due to you feeling so comfortable, here's a straight question? Have you ever paid American sales tax to the American government? I mean you come in here correcting people/me but expect to take traffic/sales from our primarily American market place as we pay taxes on it and you don't?

Seriously, American adult biz forum??? Primarily American Market?
What rock are you living under? If you really believe this I feel sorry for you, you are so far out of reality.

Konda · 10-05-2012, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

I agree - this is such a crime. I mean, of all the things in the world to get pissed about, this is right at the top of my list

LOL, I am not pissed, I am not saying anything bad about anyone. JFK does a great job. I was just wondering if I was the only one that find it annoying and was curious abou the motive. That's it.

epitome · 10-05-2012, 02:27 PM

I have no idea what is going on here.

xNetworx · 10-05-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I have no idea what is going on here.

Dude complained about JFK's pics being too similar, got owned

RyuLion · 10-05-2012, 02:58 PM

This thread is why I love GFY!!!!!!! lol.

Relentless · 10-05-2012, 05:11 PM

Clearly the dupe pics were uploaded as a trap!

JFK must have known someone would feel annoyed by the dupes. Then he figured some 'Euro' webmaster would have an opinion about it. From there it was easy for him to expect Jesus Christ to blow a fuse spewing anti-euro nonsense. I think the evidence shows JFK was thinking many steps ahead once again and using the most advanced form of indirect trolling.

JFK = Evil Mastermind

Hence the evil mastermind mysterious mustache and dupe pic trap.
I can't believe we all fell for it!

Thread of the year?

RazorSharpe · 10-05-2012, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

have fun - stalking me makes you surely look better.

Of course he looks better; Jesus has a lovely head of hair!!!

This thread made my day, I needed a laugh!!

JFK · 10-05-2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless

Clearly the dupe pics were uploaded as a trap!

JFK must have known someone would feel annoyed by the dupes. Then he figured some 'Euro' webmaster would have an opinion about it. From there it was easy for him to expect Jesus Christ to blow a fuse spewing anti-euro nonsense. I think the evidence shows JFK was thinking many steps ahead once again and using the most advanced form of indirect trolling.

JFK = Evil Mastermind

Hence the evil mastermind mysterious mustache and dupe pic trap.
I can't believe we all fell for it!

Thread of the year?

MUUUHAHAAAAAA..................

10-05-2012, 02:03 AM	#1
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	Am I the only one who finds this annoying? JFK/Fubarwebmasters Example: http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galleries.php?id=1886 12 nearly identical pictures of the same two women Why not just select the best 1 or 2 photos instead of adding them all? Or is it because sponsors are paying per picture? In that case you are ripping off your sponsors.

10-05-2012, 02:15 AM	#3
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,880	I agree ;) __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| telegram: roaldr

10-05-2012, 02:23 AM	#5
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	thats not common with JFKs pix...probably had a ton of pix to setup and some near duplicates got missed.. __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

10-05-2012, 02:55 AM	#6
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,374	OK , the sponsors are NOT paying per picture, so it's not about that at all. I will take a sequence of shots, some of them nearly identical yes, if I feel they are all good, let the subject or the viewer decide which one they like best. It's like publishing a contact sheet from the film days. Also sometimes people make gifs out of them. Actually I have cut down on the # of sequential shots. When editing them if the shot is decent enough, I will leave it up, like I say, let the viewer decide which one they like best. Sorry to have annoyed some of you, I will do the best to improve the situation in future events. __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

10-05-2012, 06:00 AM	#11
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	I like seeing all of them, but I'd love to have a like function that let people like pics and move the best ones to the top based on how many likes they get. That would also solve any near dupe issues. Keep up the good work JFK __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

10-05-2012, 02:04 AM	#2
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	PS. no disrespect, I like the photos and appreciate the fact you cover all these shows. Just annoying having to browse trough tons of nearly identical pictures, I just don't see the point.

10-05-2012, 02:18 AM	#4
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	While I haven't been to many shows the ones I have been to have been sausage fests so I imagine if women show up they are going to get their picture taken a lot of times.

10-05-2012, 06:42 AM	#13
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,703	Some people let the most simlpest and little things annoy them... __________________ Wowify AI API Porn.AI Affiliates Porn AI email: [email protected] Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

10-05-2012, 06:48 AM	#18
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10-05-2012, 07:00 AM	#21
spazlabz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6,548	JFK does an admirable job and I am sure he has ran into the 'can't please all of the people all of the time' scenario plenty of times. I enjoy viewing his images of shows I've never attended to get to see the people I work with in the industry. I did like Relentless's idea though, that would be a cool feature

10-05-2012, 07:03 AM	#23
Makaveli Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,027	Don't diss one of the bro's! Thats a no-no....

10-05-2012, 07:06 AM	#24
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10-05-2012, 08:23 AM	#29
Slappin Fish Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,512	Having an opinion about JFK's duplicates. paying into the American tax system. Errr....am I missing something or is Jesus H Christ just trolling? Last edited by Slappin Fish; 10-05-2012 at 08:24 AM..

10-05-2012, 09:41 AM	#35
PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	jhc has to be on the paint chips for real... what the fuck are you talking about?? how the hell is this an american board? __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

10-05-2012, 09:44 AM	#36
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10-05-2012, 09:45 AM	#38
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10-05-2012, 02:03 PM	#41
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	Ok this is not where I expected this thread to turn into lol I was just curious about the motive behind it, because in my opinion it's very user unfriendly. I like to check the pictures, and I really appreciate the job Julius does, but many times I watch a few pictures and then can't be bothered anymore because I have to browse trough all the 'duplicate' pics. This has actually been on my mind for many many years, but as you guys say, why complain about something that is free, so I never posted about it. But I really think that not having all these duplicate pictures makes the site a lot more user friendly and makes people stay longer on the site and eventually watch more pictures. As others have pointed out it's not as 'bad' as it used to be anymore. But when I was browsing the mentioned gallery I just really wondered why there are 12 nearly identical pictures on 1 page of the same 2 girls. I was just really curious about the motive. And yes, it does annoy me and I was just curious if it was just me or if others felt the same. And I feel I have the right to ask and express my opinion. Last edited by Konda; 10-05-2012 at 02:10 PM..

10-05-2012, 02:27 PM	#45
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	I have no idea what is going on here.

10-05-2012, 02:58 PM	#47
RyuLion ClubDomCash.com Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 32,188	This thread is why I love GFY!!!!!!! lol. __________________ Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995

10-05-2012, 05:11 PM	#48
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Clearly the dupe pics were uploaded as a trap! JFK must have known someone would feel annoyed by the dupes. Then he figured some 'Euro' webmaster would have an opinion about it. From there it was easy for him to expect Jesus Christ to blow a fuse spewing anti-euro nonsense. I think the evidence shows JFK was thinking many steps ahead once again and using the most advanced form of indirect trolling. JFK = Evil Mastermind Hence the evil mastermind mysterious mustache and dupe pic trap. I can't believe we all fell for it! Thread of the year? Last edited by Relentless; 10-05-2012 at 05:13 PM..