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Old 10-04-2012, 07:46 AM   #1
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How are sales this month so far? Post Google EMD Algo Update

Below Normal?
Normal?
Above Normal?

This month for me, below normal.
Last month was GREAT.

It's funny how things work.. just when things are going good, some shit happens.

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Old 10-04-2012, 08:01 AM   #2
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i can not tell after 4 days
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:12 AM   #3
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It's funny how things work.. just when things are going good, some shit happens.
Another way of describing the law of averages.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:35 AM   #4
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I need a full 7 days (i.e. to include Sat and Sun) before I can start to compare
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:37 AM   #5
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what is sales?
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:53 AM   #6
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what is sales?
Hey TC, why no updates on 6bot?
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:55 AM   #7
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Program owners have to say that everything is normal for them or they have exceeded their sales goal. Best month ever! Because if they told you the truth, like some do in private, people would not send them traffic.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:06 AM   #8
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Another way of describing the law of averages.
Right, so it is self fulfilling correct? kind of like in roulette. U win alot of rounds then u loose some?
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:09 AM   #9
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Program owners have to say that everything is normal for them or they have exceeded their sales goal. Best month ever! Because if they told you the truth, like some do in private, people would not send them traffic.
Program guys always say they doing very well, this make sense.
However programs do not rely on SEO so much... mostly is a traffic buy in bulk (traffic brokers, ad networks, prepay spots)... and this is table really google or not. Or traffic is bring by affiliates anyway in various ways, program got no idea how, so how a program is directly affected by SEO really? Only affiliates are. And how a program knows anything about SEO effects really? Only affiliates know.
What I see it is that some cybersquatting guys who took some our domains in .net or .org or .stupidTLD was second result after our domains before, and now I can't find even in 3 pages I browsed, this seems an improvement (how register pornhub.biz should bring you second place in pornhub seach a week later?), but no idea really.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:31 AM   #10
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Program guys always say they doing very well, this make sense.
However programs do not rely on SEO so much... mostly is a traffic buy in bulk (traffic brokers, ad networks, prepay spots)... and this is table really google or not. Or traffic is bring by affiliates anyway in various ways, program got no idea how, so how a program is directly affected by SEO really? Only affiliates are. And how a program knows anything about SEO effects really? Only affiliates know.
What I see it is that some cybersquatting guys who took some our domains in .net or .org or .stupidTLD was second result after our domains before, and now I can't find even in 3 pages I browsed, this seems an improvement (how register pornhub.biz should bring you second place in pornhub seach a week later?), but no idea really.
I have never bought traffic for any of my sites, I do not want a lot of affiliates or I should say I do not have the time to help them unless they can do it on their own.
SEO does matter some but not the main way I get my sales either.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:41 AM   #11
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I have never bought traffic for any of my sites, I do not want a lot of affiliates or I should say I do not have the time to help them unless they can do it on their own.
SEO does matter some but not the main way I get my sales either.
Well we run a cam site so if we don't deliver enough traffic every day to the models they all quit the site and we're dead. So we quite buy traffic as needed. Guys with prerecorded content have no issue if for few days there's no traffic as the recorded pics keeps there and do not "quit" your pages
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:43 AM   #12
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Hey TC, why no updates on 6bot?
asked the same from him a few hours ago. 6bot will be updated soon and updates will be back to normal. vacation/partytime or whatever it was.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:28 AM   #13
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Of course they are worse for honest affiliates overall. As usual the changes primarily hit people doing things the legal way. It's rare that you see an illegal tube hurt by Panda, Penguin, or the EMD update. To Google they are "high quality" and your affiliate site is probably "low quality". Give it time and it will have a ripple effect on pay sites as well. Even more surfers are being trained that they don't have to pay and they can get everything for free. This is the natural result as legal affiliate sites are pushed from the results in favor of tubes, file lockers and forums.And this happens with each major update. You don't see any illegal tubes or filelockers getting hit with this.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:14 PM   #14
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Of course they are worse for honest affiliates overall. As usual the changes primarily hit people doing things the legal way. It's rare that you see an illegal tube hurt by Panda, Penguin, or the EMD update. To Google they are "high quality" and your affiliate site is probably "low quality". Give it time and it will have a ripple effect on pay sites as well. Even more surfers are being trained that they don't have to pay and they can get everything for free. This is the natural result as legal affiliate sites are pushed from the results in favor of tubes, file lockers and forums.And this happens with each major update. You don't see any illegal tubes or filelockers getting hit with this.
Amen, QFT
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